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Obama Email Sets DCCC Single-Day Fundraising Record
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...-email-sets-record-at-dccc.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
But....but...democrats and Obama supporters aren't supposed to be motivated!
The Technomancer
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580,000? That's in millions, right? Right!?
cartoon_soldier
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And Adelson will cut 10 million dollar check for some SuperPAC
Dem donors suck. They are making a big mistake by not leveling the playing field.
Dem donors suck. They are making a big mistake by not leveling the playing field.
Dr. Pangloss
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We talk about Obama being swiftboated, but I think this is what is actually is happening to Romney. He has never come up with a valid answer to Obama's attacks on his Bain record. Sure these ads won't have much effect on those of a conservative persuasion, but they are not aimed at them. They are aimed at independents. People that don't follow the day to day stories, and the ads are setting a narrative. Romney doesn't bother to use positive ads to highlight his time as governor or CEO of Bain. All he does is attack Obama's record. People might not be happy with Obama's progress, but are they willing to take a chance on the guy these ads portray. Latest advert in swing states. I don't believe they will.
RustyNails
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People can write off surprise iran attack as october surprise. The bigger threat we have is syrian conflict escalation, as turkey gets embroiled in it pulling NATO along. That will skyrocket gas prices and we'll have another conflict on our laps
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PD really skyrocketed over the last 10 pages of OT1! Sorry about the piss poor quality, at work
ugh, I don't think I made more than ten posts prior to the Walker recall week.
Hobbestetrician
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Or as the MSNBC article calls it, a "Dead Heat".
eBay Huckster
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i'm finding it hard to believe that he's even up if this is the case
e: oh, that's his approval with UNDECIDEDS, his indy approval's more like 37/53
cartoon_soldier
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PD really skyrocketed over the last 10 pages of OT1! Sorry about the piss poor quality, at work
I don't think I have never been in top 10 before.
Wooho
Aside from the strategic implications, geopolitics have already been affected, this probably snuffs the motivation for a robust climate change regime.
Mainstream political analysis is laughably destitute. Romney's favorability rating shifted only three points in a month. To adduce such a miniscule shift as evidence of the effectiveness of the Bain attacks is unfounded.
cartoon_soldier
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Especially as the best Bain attacks and news just came out i.e. outsourcing pioneer in chief.
TacticalFox88
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I know it sounds extremely wrong, but if any conflict happens, I reallllly hope it's AFTER November 7th.
Invisible_Insane
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Trolling pays dividends, it seems. I'm going to win this contest one of these days.
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PD really skyrocketed over the last 10 pages of OT1! Sorry about the piss poor quality, at work
I know it sounds extremely wrong, but if any conflict happens, I reallllly hope it's AFTER November 7th.
Let's say Israel attacks Iran in October. Does that slow down Campaign Obama?
Yeah. The domestic political ramifications are fairly murky. Although, I don't envision the U.S. becoming involved militarily.I know it sounds extremely wrong, but if any conflict happens, I reallllly hope it's AFTER November 7th.
So many posts...so little actually contributed.
PhoenixDark
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Liberal elitism, tsk tsk
RustyNails
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So kinda like Bain attacks?
Netanyahu doesn't know a lot of things, but he knows American politics, that's why he'll never attack in October.
If Obama wins, he'll have to deal with a pretty hostile 2nd term president (I'm sure he wouldn't say anything public, but man, he will not be happy) and if he loses, he'll have to manage a pretty serious conflict with an angry lame duck in the white house.
eBay Huckster
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Also kind of like Iranian nuclear negotiations!
Al-ibn Kermit
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SouthernDragon
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See? Media-ites hated it and felt uncomfortable because they likely knew someone that worked at a private equity firm. Criticizing those would be awkward.
Regular folk don't give a fuck about that because they don't know about people who work in private equity firms. It's a world apart, and Obama's criticisms of those corporations rang true to them.
RustyNails
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Anyone catch Jon Stewart's interview with Marco Rubio yesterday?
Almost. I'm a conservative.
Yeah.
Precisely! Speaking of which, I remember debating the topic with someone in the thread who predicted a compromise would be brokered before summer. Well, no.
Al-ibn Kermit
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That was probably me. The Obama administration will never let negotiations completely break down or else Israel will use that as license to start airstrikes, and that will be gigantic mess.
As far as delaying it past July 1, that's obviously to use the last bit of diplomatic leverage they can. At that point, Iran will come forward with their absolute final offer (which is already basically everything the West is demanding). The only real concession Iran is asking for is acknowledgement that Iran has the right to enrich uranium for civilian use, which is a big demand in election season.
But it's not as bad as airstrikes and a mini-war which is the best case scenario if Israel gets involved.
It should not surprise anyone that the Bain attacks are hurting Romney, Gingrinch and Santorum hurt Romney with similar attacks but they were train wrecks and were also part of the same party so its hard to make those attacks as effective.
The more these ads run and the more Romney refuses to answer questions or provide plans the lower his numbers will go.
"I will do the opposite of Obama" for every answer is just not going to fly as we get closer to November.
The more these ads run and the more Romney refuses to answer questions or provide plans the lower his numbers will go.
"I will do the opposite of Obama" for every answer is just not going to fly as we get closer to November.
If anyone cares:
Hakeem Jeffries Defeats Charles Barron In New York House Race
Orrin Hatch Wins Utah GOP Primary
Charlie Rangel won as well.
Hakeem Jeffries Defeats Charles Barron In New York House Race
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/hakeem-jeffries-defeats-charles-barron-in-new-york
Orrin Hatch Wins Utah GOP Primary
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/orrin-hatch-wins-utah-gop-primary
Charlie Rangel won as well.
I just wish Obama would have a really amazing Romney flip flop ad series for tv in the fall.
I mean Romney now has so many sound bites where he is directly contradicting himself that it would be an epic fail to not have an insane "which Romney do we have today?" commercial series
I mean Romney now has so many sound bites where he is directly contradicting himself that it would be an epic fail to not have an insane "which Romney do we have today?" commercial series
eBay Huckster
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Jesus, what's it going to take to get Rangel out of office short of him dying?
PhoenixDark
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Romney looks like a complete clown. His strategy seems to be that the general election truly starts right before the conventions, meaning he can cruise into late July with few details. It may be true that Americans only start paying attention around that time but he's letting Obama frame him as a dithering flip flopper who can't take a position.
Of course, it might not matter if summer jobs numbers continue to be a disaster.
Of course, it might not matter if summer jobs numbers continue to be a disaster.
The people that Romney needs to win over won't be paying attention until then anyways.
Also, if Romney hangs his hat on any kind of novelty. middle-of-the-road economic proposal, all Obama and the House Dems have to do it propose it in a bill and watch the hilarity ensue.
He's right, though. Remember the "primary is too tough and will weaken the candidate" BS from 3-4 months ago? Who even remembers what the hot issues were during the primary - nobody. And Romney is banking a ton of money.
It doesn't matter how many points Obama scores now, it means nothing until we are into the general.
So, a perfect campaign so far?
Hmmmm. Have you not been extolling the Romney campaign since the primary concluded? Hmmmm.
The negotiations have encountered impasses before without engendering an Israeli strike; see the fruitless negotiations in Istanbul in 2011 which spectacularly fizzled. I don't think they're as important to the calculus as popularly conceived. Regardless, the negotiations were imperiled from the onset. The United States, who is the predominant director of the P5+1, has little impetus to compromise; note, given their current framework-objectively, it behooves them to compromise. They have isolated Iran, and the advent of electronic warfare only increases their leverage. As you note, Iran desires recognition of its right to pursue enrichment in addition to an abatement of sanctions. The United States is not going to yield on either aspect. So, the status quo perpetuates as we kick the can down the road.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Romney's campaign has been pitch perfect. I don't know what you guys are talking about.
Americans will come to recognize that his work at Bain Capital created jobs at Staples.
Americans will come to recognize that his work at Bain Capital created jobs at Staples.
He's a brilliant tactician. In every instance where Obama has gained the advantage, Romney deftly counters and redirects the attack against Obama. Take the dog fiasco. The Obama Campaign embarrasses him...until he dredges up the passage from one of Obama's books and now everyone knows him as Barry the dog eater. Best campaign ever.
One of the most basic rules in electoral politics is define yourself to voters before your opponent does it for you. Romney already built a reputation of being a flip-flopping (ironically a term popularized by the GOP in 2004 against Kerry), pandering clown. Him being defined as a blood sucking, job killing exec is something he doesn't need.
Blood sucking, job killing exec? Sounds like Obama.
Dr. Pangloss
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No one remembers, except for all of the television footage. Also, if he tracks too far to the middle (ex. Obama's immigration executive order), then I'm sure the conservative base that elected him in the primary won't care either. I agree with you, no one cares what Romney had to say or think back then. He won the audition to just stand there at the debate as the anti-Obama. No need to actually answer any questions about his time at Bain or what he wants to specifically cut from the budget or say immigration. We can wait till after the conventions when Obama has already framed him as the corporate raider.
PhoenixDark
Banned
Which is probably why Obama hasn't rolled out primary footage of Romney yet. It'll hit around late July or August I guess
Aaron Strife
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Remember when Obama was the Republican governor of Massachusetts?
My favorite was that whole thing where Osama bin Laden was killed under Obama's watch. That could have been disastrous for Romney, if he didn't point out that Obama is arrogant for taking the credit! Aha!
makingmusic476
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This was the type of amendment that Rubio defended on TDS last night.
makingmusic476
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Kinda sad Jon didn't call out Marc when he made the asinine comment about a single payer system destroying our quality of healthcare. Because the government merely paying our medical bills will somehow make hospitals shit the bed when it comes to care.
But man, Stewart got so giddy when he mentioned passing single payer lol.
Officerrob
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The problem is that the primary didn't exist in a vacuum. All the positions that he said he stood for that will undoubtedly change for the general when he finally decides to stand for something (self-deportation anyone?) will be used to further cement his flip-floppiness.
Black Republican
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doesnt romneys tax extension end mid october? hmmmm
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