I expect something like this:
"This idea of universal coverage, pioneered in MA by then Gov. Mitt Romney, and expanded nationally by the ACA, has been affirmed by the SCOTUS."
Give him a big hug to today's decision, but not actually thank him.
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I expect something like this:
"This idea of universal coverage, pioneered in MA by then Gov. Mitt Romney, and expanded nationally by the ACA, has been affirmed by the SCOTUS."
Give him a big hug to today's decision, but not actually thank him.
NihonTiger90
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Pretty much, lol.
WH: "It's not a tax-"
SCOTUS: "Yeah, it is and you know it. Just call it what it is and we're good."
Future PhaZe
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What is Romney even running on again? We've got a recovering economy, are putting the finishing touches to the war...???
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
He's going to make America great again for hard working Americans.
Yeah the GOP should probably just not run anyone in this beautiful utopia we've had the last few years.
empty vessel
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Buy a better radio!
PhoenixDark
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This basically rules Obamacare=Romneycare. Can't wait until Romney's response, and the debates
Lyle:
For all of those who second-guessed the Solicitor General's defense of ACA, it might be worth noting that the tax defense of the mandate was, indeed, an argument that the government lawyer did advance.
RoninChaos
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And that means whatever you need it to mean when you vote for him.
Loving how the GOP Congressional leaders are saying that this makes the election about HCR and that only full repeal will do. Oh really? How do you plan to do that with this Rominee? How do you plan to make that case to seniors(donut hole), young people(parents plan) or insurers(we want day money).
BTW: This is in honest keeping with Roberts' clear preference for corporate solutions to public ones. Mandate falls, Medicare for All advances. In this decision, mandate remains, Medicare for All stalls yet again and Medicaid expansion is slowed somewhat.
BTW: This is in honest keeping with Roberts' clear preference for corporate solutions to public ones. Mandate falls, Medicare for All advances. In this decision, mandate remains, Medicare for All stalls yet again and Medicaid expansion is slowed somewhat.
Don't polls show more Americans oppose Obamacare than support it? I mean, it isn't that far fetched a plan.
The Technomancer
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Yeah, seeing how Romney responds immediately and seeing how Romney responds when Obama inevitably brings it up in the debates is going to be veeeeeery interesting
Polls show that Americans oppose the caraciture that the GOP has made of it, but love everything in it except the individual mandate.
Now, with the individual mandate is affirmed by SCOTUS, I fully expect (perhaps foolishly) that Dems and the Administration will frame it as a (laughingly small) tax and a bunch of well liked policies.
BTW: Here's the before. Where's the after picture?
Just like hope and change.
This comment would've worked better before 10am this morning.
Coming Soon: Mitt Romney Delivers Response To Decision On Obamacare LIVE FROM DC... Developing...-via drudge
can't f'n wait.
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
Wow, was not expecting that. Quite a huge deal actually.
Byakuya769
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Ha. Agreed. He had a majority for striking down the mandate if that's what he wanted.
DeathbyVolcano
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I called it.
Officerrob
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Romney will be forced to talk about this for the next 48 hours to a week, but look for him to pivot off of healthcare as fast as possible. The Supreme Court basically made Obamacare the equal of Romneycare and Romney will not want to try and explain the differences (as funny as that would be). Anyone who thinks this is a win for Romney is insane. The same people up in arms today were already voting to vote for Romney, enthusiastically or not. In addition, if Romney gets sucked into shifting from the economy towards healthcare by the extreme right, that would be a MASSIVE mistake.
...oh hell yes.
Also, gas is $3.27 here in South Florida this morning.
Motherfucking brace yourself, Mitt.
Also, gas is $3.27 here in South Florida this morning.
Motherfucking brace yourself, Mitt.
RoninChaos
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The health care law is a pretty big change.Just like hope and change.
Not a chance. Look for him to go all in on "largest tax hike in history" and " Obama pledged to not raise taxes on middle income Americans."
Government aiding a handful of corporations to get even richer under the guise of 'helping people'? That has been going on for quite awhile.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Good summary on why Romney really won't attack this, he can... but..
The video just posted shows why he won't.
Officerrob
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...oh hell yes.
Also, gas is $3.27 here in South Florida this morning.
Motherfucking brace yourself, Mitt.
What happened to PD's predictions of the mandate being overturned and gas being $5 a gallon?
Dr. Pangloss
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Forget about Romney. What about the states like Florida who only have 6 months to set up an exchange or the Feds do it for them?
Actually, Biden would call it a big fucking deal.
Officerrob
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I hope so, that would be idiotic on his part. I'll say again for the millionth time, when Romney isn't talking about the economy, he's losing.
PhoenixDark
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I'd imagine there will be some traction with the tax argument, but Obama should be able to retort effectively. This is a .9% tax increase on people making what, $250k? Good luck freaking out over that
Bwah!
Pretty easy to rope tax hike into economy talking points.
this is so delicious it has to be fattening.
Sirpopopop
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Under the ACA most of them won't even have to bother offering health insurance.
Regardless, I'm reading the opinion. It's surprisingly well written. Most SCOTUS' opinions are messes.
(Like the time I had to read past precedent on Telecommunications Act cases.)
Particle Physicist
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I love that you just want to see everything burn. It's pretty hilarious!
Officerrob
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Pretty easy to tie Romney to taxing the people of Mass for the SAME THING. There is so much video of Romney out there talking about how taxing people who don't get coverage in order to lower healthcare costs is a great idea.
^ oh absolutely, I'm not saying its smart I'm saying it is what will happen.
You understand that the accepted SBA definition of a small business (for most industries) is under 500 employees right? These guys aren't small business owners, they are "small business" owners.
None have yet returned.
Also shocking how quickly people have come around on Roberts!
You understand that the accepted SBA definition of a small business (for most industries) is under 500 employees right? These guys aren't small business owners, they are "small business" owners.
None have yet returned.
Also shocking how quickly people have come around on Roberts!
Sirpopopop
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Oh, ok, gotcha.
I thought you were referring to genuine small business owners. Not "small business owners."
My mistake!
Chad Warden shit right here.
Frank the Great
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my facebook newsfeed is fucking hilarious
Sirpopopop
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Roberts is a mad genius.
He found a way to further limit the authority of the Commerce Clause, while also finding a way to avoid political blowback by striking down the PPACA.
I don't agree with it, but I have to applaud him for that move. That was smooth.
He found a way to further limit the authority of the Commerce Clause, while also finding a way to avoid political blowback by striking down the PPACA.
I don't agree with it, but I have to applaud him for that move. That was smooth.
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