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[pigeon]

Hey, I think it's a tiny, insignificant issue but Biden did not answer the question convincingly. It was the ONLY question he did not smash Ryan on in my opinion and it was the first. If Libya comes up first, it could be disastrous for Obama because it would dictate the pace of the debate again.

The reality of the situation is that the answer is just unpopular politically, which is why Hillary gave it in her speech and it got buried -- when you send Americans to a war zone, whether they're military or civil service, you and they accept the possibility that they will get killed; Ambassador Stevens knew this, volunteered, and went in with his eyes open because he believed in the mission. Obviously a tough sell. Also, unfortunately, the truth.

Hopefully Obama will have something that plays a little better. Fortunately I doubt it will come up in the town hall.

 

[B-Dubs]

On effectiveness (from the PPP ohio poll last night):

That sounds about right. Romney really could have use it as an attack IF he hadn't fucked the whole thing up with a 10PM press conference.

 

[Y2Kev]

The reality of the situation is that the answer is just unpopular politically, which is why Hillary gave it in her speech and it got buried -- when you send Americans to a war zone, whether they're military or civil service, you and they accept the possibility that they will get killed; Ambassador Stevens knew this, volunteered, and went in with his eyes open because he believed in the mission. Obviously a tough sell. Also, unfortunately, the truth.

Hopefully Obama will have something that plays a little better. Fortunately I doubt it will come up in the town hall.

"It's never too soon to stand up for our values," falls flat on its face. I just really think they need a somber, realistic answer that doesn't throw the CIA under the bus.

 

[AniHawk]

just caught up.

so the freefall has stopped. i think we can thank biden for that, plus a lack of interest on the liberal side for continuing to freak the fuck out. obama needs to have a good day tuesday, and he'll probably be able to reverse some of the problems he faced last week.

ppp results for ohio are great, and they come in spite of a huge dip everywhere else. i'm curious as to why the saturday polling was so much stronger than the friday polling. maybe someone can shine some light on that. it makes it sound like either friday or saturday was way off for whatever reason. i'd still like to see some more results out of ohio. i know ppp's trustworthy, but more polls are a good thing.

and i will stop making fun of ohio if they turn out to be the deciding factor.

 

[Cloudy]

Fortunately I doubt it will come up in the town hall.

You really believe Romney won't weave it into one of his answers even if no one asks?

 

[Y2Kev]

just caught up.

so the freefall has stopped. i think we can thank biden for that, plus a lack of interest on the liberal side for continuing to freak the fuck out. obama needs to have a good day tuesday, and he'll probably be able to reverse some of the problems he faced last week.

ppp results for ohio are great, and they come in spite of a huge dip everywhere else. i'm curious as to why the saturday polling was so much stronger than the friday polling. maybe someone can shine some light on that. it makes it sound like either friday or saturday was way off for whatever reason. i'd still like to see some more results out of ohio. i know ppp's trustworthy, but more polls are a good thing.

and i will stop making fun of ohio if they turn out to be the deciding factor.

young people go out on friday night and old people sit around and do nothing but yell at reruns of COPS

 

[Diablos]

Another day, another panic, another Obama fundraising deadline email

I thought it was pretty funny how I got an e-mail from Obama on the 12th simply titled: "I hear you"

Like he knows he done fucked up. LOL.

 

[Loudninja]

young people go out on friday night and old people sit around and do nothing but yell at reruns of COPS

Hehe.

 

[B-Dubs]

I thought it was pretty funny how I got an e-mail from Obama on the 12th simply titled: "I hear you"

Like he knows he done fucked up. LOL.

I'll tell you what else, Michelle can be pretty flirty in those e-mails...

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Yeah I honestly don't think Libya is clear-cut enough to move people in one direction or the other.

On the other hand my political radar has been on the fritz of late.

 

[schuelma]

just caught up.

so the freefall has stopped. i think we can thank biden for that, plus a lack of interest on the liberal side for continuing to freak the fuck out. obama needs to have a good day tuesday, and he'll probably be able to reverse some of the problems he faced last week.

ppp results for ohio are great, and they come in spite of a huge dip everywhere else. i'm curious as to why the saturday polling was so much stronger than the friday polling. maybe someone can shine some light on that. it makes it sound like either friday or saturday was way off for whatever reason. i'd still like to see some more results out of ohio. i know ppp's trustworthy, but more polls are a good thing.

and i will stop making fun of ohio if they turn out to be the deciding factor.

It is so weird to read posts of yours that are completely serious.

 

[Dude Abides]

Not at all.

I guess you didn't see Biden fumble and flub his way through that segment last week.

 

[Diablos]

Libya is totally gaining traction but the question is if it will snowball into something big enough to dwarf Obama'a already semi-troubled campaign.

Right now imma say no.

 

[Sealda]

I thought it was pretty funny how I got an e-mail from Obama on the 12th simply titled: "I hear you"

Like he knows he done fucked up. LOL.

you mean his pr folks knows how to beg for money?

 

[B-Dubs]

Libya is totally gaining traction but the question is if it will snowball into something big enough to dwarf Obama'a already semi-troubled campaign.

Right now imma say no.

If Romney hadn't fucked up the original response it might have, but since he did he has no credibility on the issue.

 

[pigeon]

You really believe Romney won't weave it into one of his answers even if no one asks?

He could. I don't think it'll work that well for him. The thing about town hall voters is that they aren't debate moderators -- they actually give a shit about their questions being answered.

 

[Loudninja]

Libya is totally gaining traction but the question is if it will snowball into something big enough to dwarf Obama'a already semi-troubled campaign.

Right now imma say no.

What traction besides Fox?

 

[Diablos]

you mean his pr folks knows how to beg for money?

Doubtful.

If it gains enough traction to the point where there are new, indisputable details that hurts the Obama administration then that's not something you want right now.

 

[Oblivion]

Awwwww, some mod closed that Hitokage thread right before I had a chance to post my campaign pitch.

So I'll post it here instead:

If your platform is to cut the number of posters by 20% across the board while simultaneously increasing the lulz by 5x, you have my vote.

In addition to that, my platform includes:

1. New Multi-tiered browsing and posting plans:
- Neogaf Gold - Full browsing and posting abilities. Seniors members, who have posted more than 5 years will be exempt from fees.
- Neogaf Silver - Full browsing and posting abilities but ONLY for one sub forum. Choose wisely.
- Neogaf bronze - Full browsing abilities only, without worrying about ads being plastered all around.

The vast majority of you have had it way too easy. It's time to end the coddling towards you leeches and give back to the American people!

2. All Nintendo related discussion will be relegated to its own sub forum.
-Look, I myself like Nintendo, but no 1080p on NSMBU? It's not exactly pushing the system, I mean COME ON!
3. All Sales-age discussion will be verboten:
-The world is already filled with too many numbers. No need to complicate things further.
4. Any threads a Republican saying something silly will be counterbalanced by a thread with a democrat saying something silly (the latter does not have to be from the same day, or even the same century)



OBLIVION 2012
A vote for me is a vote for the American People!

 

[Tim-E]

2. All Nintendo related discussion will be relegated to its own sub forum.
-Look, I myself like Nintendo, but no 1080p on NSMBU? It's not exactly pushing the system, I mean COME ON!
OBLIVION 2012
A vote for me is a vote for the American People!

A return to the Jim Crow laws, I see?

 

[ivysaur12]

Awwwww, some mod closed that Hitokage thread right before I had a chance to post my campaign pitch.

So I'll post it here instead:



In addition to that, my platform includes:

1. New Multi-tiered browsing and posting plans:
- Neogaf Gold - Full browsing and posting abilities. Seniors members, who have posted more than 5 years will be exempt from fees.
- Neogaf Silver - Full browsing and posting abilities but ONLY for one sub forum. Choose wisely.
- Neogaf bronze - Full browsing abilities only, without worrying about ads being plastered all around.

The vast majority of you have had it way too easy. It's time to end the coddling towards you leeches and give back to the American people!

2. All Nintendo related discussion will be relegated to its own sub forum.
-Look, I myself like Nintendo, but no 1080p on NSMBU? It's not exactly pushing the system, I mean COME ON!
3. All Sales-age discussion will be verboten:
-The world is already filled with too many numbers. No need to complicate things further.
4. Any threads a Republican saying something silly will be counterbalanced by a thread with a democrat saying something silly (the latter does not have to be from the same day, or even the same century)



OBLIVION 2012
A vote for me is a vote for the American People!

I don't know understand, we already have GAF Gold.

 

[Forever]

Awwwww, some mod closed that Hitokage thread right before I had a chance to post my campaign pitch.

So I'll post it here instead:



In addition to that, my platform includes:

1. New Multi-tiered browsing and posting plans:
- Neogaf Gold - Full browsing and posting abilities. Seniors members, who have posted more than 5 years will be exempt from fees.
- Neogaf Silver - Full browsing and posting abilities but ONLY for one sub forum. Choose wisely.
- Neogaf bronze - Full browsing abilities only, without worrying about ads being plastered all around.

The vast majority of you have had it way too easy. It's time to end the coddling towards you leeches and give back to the American people!

2. All Nintendo related discussion will be relegated to its own sub forum.
-Look, I myself like Nintendo, but no 1080p on NSMBU? It's not exactly pushing the system, I mean COME ON!
3. All Sales-age discussion will be verboten:
-The world is already filled with too many numbers. No need to complicate things further.
4. Any threads a Republican saying something silly will be counterbalanced by a thread with a democrat saying something silly (the latter does not have to be from the same day, or even the same century)



OBLIVION 2012
A vote for me is a vote for the American People!

I'm running on a platform where Kosmo will be unbanned so that he and EV can only view each other's posts.

Everyone else can watch.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Ok, got caught up on the thread.

Looks like in the grand scheme of things, nothing really happened outside the PPP Ohio poll. Everything else seems relatively the same.

Looks like Tuesday will be the difference as we all knew.

One post in particular stood out though:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=43159899&postcount=6936

I'm not even sure what this means.

 

[B-Dubs]

I'm running on a platform where Kosmo and EV can only view each other's posts.

That would necessitate bringing Kosmo back from his eternal banning.

 

[RDreamer]

Awwwww, some mod closed that Hitokage thread right before I had a chance to post my campaign pitch.

So I'll post it here instead:



In addition to that, my platform includes:

1. New Multi-tiered browsing and posting plans:
- Neogaf Gold - Full browsing and posting abilities. Seniors members, who have posted more than 5 years will be exempt from fees.
- Neogaf Silver - Full browsing and posting abilities but ONLY for one sub forum. Choose wisely.
- Neogaf bronze - Full browsing abilities only, without worrying about ads being plastered all around.

The vast majority of you have had it way too easy. It's time to end the coddling towards you leeches and give back to the American people!

2. All Nintendo related discussion will be relegated to its own sub forum.
-Look, I myself like Nintendo, but no 1080p on NSMBU? It's not exactly pushing the system, I mean COME ON!
3. All Sales-age discussion will be verboten:
-The world is already filled with too many numbers. No need to complicate things further.
4. Any threads a Republican saying something silly will be counterbalanced by a thread with a democrat saying something silly (the latter does not have to be from the same day, or even the same century)



OBLIVION 2012
A vote for me is a vote for the American People!

Sure, you're running for Neogaf, but I bet you stash posts on other forums.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Awwwww, some mod closed that Hitokage thread right before I had a chance to post my campaign pitch.

So I'll post it here instead:



In addition to that, my platform includes:

1. New Multi-tiered browsing and posting plans:
- Neogaf Gold - Full browsing and posting abilities. Seniors members, who have posted more than 5 years will be exempt from fees.
- Neogaf Silver - Full browsing and posting abilities but ONLY for one sub forum. Choose wisely.
- Neogaf bronze - Full browsing abilities only, without worrying about ads being plastered all around.

The vast majority of you have had it way too easy. It's time to end the coddling towards you leeches and give back to the American people!

2. All Nintendo related discussion will be relegated to its own sub forum.
-Look, I myself like Nintendo, but no 1080p on NSMBU? It's not exactly pushing the system, I mean COME ON!
3. All Sales-age discussion will be verboten:
-The world is already filled with too many numbers. No need to complicate things further.
4. Any threads a Republican saying something silly will be counterbalanced by a thread with a democrat saying something silly (the latter does not have to be from the same day, or even the same century)



OBLIVION 2012
A vote for me is a vote for the American People!

Only if you close the borders to those damn gamefaqs immigrants.

 

[AniHawk]

It is so weird to read posts of yours that are completely serious.

i've been posting considerably less than i have in the past. usually when i am joking around, i'm stressed for one reason or another, and am just trying to entertain myself (and it's these times i'll post a lot). i don't try to be serious in those times, since my emotions will usually get the best of me.

last night i went to knott's halloween haunt for the first time ever, with friends from work and a buddy i haven't seen in two years. so i've calmed down considerably after going nuts on friday.

 

[Jak140]

I don't know understand, we already have GAF Gold.

It's the Romney Ryan GAF Platform. We've got ours, so fuck you. Of course for the lay poster this will be sold as a way for post creators to create more posts for everyone else.

 

[Diablos]

Ok, got caught up on the thread.

Looks like in the grand scheme of things, nothing really happened outside the PPP Ohio poll. Everything else seems relatively the same.

Looks like Tuesday will be the difference as we all knew.

Yeah pretty much. Meh.

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Oblivion promises to reveal his Sales-age numbers after the election.

 

[Tim-E]

Oblivion promises to reveal his Sales-age numbers after the election.

Oblivion refuses to disclose the number of Vita units he's purchased

 

[Diablos]

Party ID/Ideological breakdowns and how they've changed over the years
http://winstongroup.net/slides/PartyIDandIdeology.pdf

Interesting.

 

[Oblivion]

A return to the Jim Crow laws, I see?

It's because gaming discussion is so fundamentally important that we HAVE to resort to such things!

Sure, you're running for Neogaf, but I bet you stash posts on other forums.

Hey, we all did crazy things when we were in college.

Only if you close the borders to those damn gamefaqs immigrants.

You definitely need not worry about that. We are a forum of LAWS, goddamnit!

Oblivion promises to reveal his Sales-age numbers after the election.

Unlike my opponents, I will work diligently with the rest of the staff members to come up with a proper guessimate on how many vitas I actually bought.




ALSO,

Under my plan, multi-quoting functionality will be enabled.

 

[Tim-E]

It's because gaming discussion is so fundamentally important that we HAVE to resort to such things!

Disgusting. Everyone, can't you see what this man plans to do to MY PEOPLE.

 

[Forever]

There is not a Nintendo GAF, or a Sony GAF. There is no Gold GAF or non-Gold GAF.

We are the NeoGAF.

Forever 2012.

 

[speculawyer]

Libya is totally gaining traction but the question is if it will snowball into something big enough to dwarf Obama'a already semi-troubled campaign.

Right now imma say no.

Yeah, this is one of those right-wing echo chamber things. I'm someone that followed the Libya story pretty closely and I don't know or care what they are yammering about. Do they think Obama defines the Embassy and consulate security protocol for North African countries? At best they can nit-pick about some some bureaucrat or security person screwing up. But do you pin that on President? C'mon, son.

They re-elected Bush after 9/11 and they are going to nit-pick about bad security at some consulate? Really? They think that is gonna work? They voted for Bush after the "Bin Laden determined to strike in America" memo. It is a nonsensical strategy/issue.

 

[AniHawk]

as your new admin, i solemnly swear, to goof off and eat candy.

 

[Kyzer]

how has no one mentioned the NDAA? Not even Romney?

 

[Tim-E]

There is not a Nintendo GAF, or a Sony GAF. There is no Gold GAF or non-Gold GAF.

We are the NeoGAF.

Forever 2012.

My man.

 

[786110]

Obama up by 2 in Colorado 48-46. Gravis Marketing poll of 2,089 likely voters Oct 5-11. http://t.co/i4KKukrB

 

[pigeon]

how has no one mentioned the NDAA? Not even Romney?

What's Romney going to say? "I disapprove of how Obama said he wouldn't use the authority to detain American civilians, it projects weakness?"

Obama up by 2 in Colorado 48-46. Gravis Marketing poll of 2,089 likely voters Oct 5-11. http://t.co/i4KKukrB

That is a good poll for Obama in the context of the worse Colorado polls he's been seeing.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Obama up by 2 in Colorado 48-46. Gravis Marketing poll of 2,089 likely voters Oct 5-11. http://t.co/i4KKukrB

Gravis is something of a right-wing clown pollster. I trust them only so far as a poll by theirs showing Obama up by anything is surprising.

 

[coldfoot]

Party ID/Ideological breakdowns and how they've changed over the years
http://winstongroup.net/slides/PartyIDandIdeology.pdf

Interesting.

Why did they use blue for conservative and red for liberal? Also the "liberal" being consistently very low means the wording of the survey was probably messed up.

 

[Y2Kev]

Gravis' poll, which is in Nate's model, last had Romney up 3.5 on October 4.

It has a full bar weighting for Nate....

 

[Oblivion]

My man.

Can't you see he's trying to promote console warfare?!

 

[Aylinato]

Yes it is. It was a topic in the debate, has gained more media attention and was a prominent subject today on the morning shows. I'm not judging the effectiveness of it, but it has absolutely gained more prominence in the last week.

It hasn't gained any traction with voters, and myself being on the ground voters are not picking up the "narrative" from the media

 

[HylianTom]

Obama up by 2 in Colorado 48-46. Gravis Marketing poll of 2,089 likely voters Oct 5-11. http://t.co/i4KKukrB

Okay.. at this point, I'm utterly confused about Colorado. What the hell?

 

[gkryhewy]

Gravis' poll, which is in Nate's model, last had Romney up 3.5 on October 4.

It has a full bar weighting for Nate....

Looks like another hit of sweet sweet hopium on fivethirtyeight tonight.

 

[Y2Kev]

What does Colorado look like in terms of field offices for Obama? And do they have early voting?

 

[Dude Abides]

how has no one mentioned the NDAA? Not even Romney?

There is bipartisan agreement on killing Americans without trial.