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PoliGAF 2012 |OT4|: Your job is not to worry about 47% of these posts.
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Sirpopopop
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If Republicans would actually do things like proper immigration reform, they wouldn't be so scary.
The reason why they are scary is because they won't.
Yo, this can't be right. I heard that Obama has zero chance of winning Floriduh.
They will do it when it suits their political needs. The demographics are just too stacked against them to ignore a key issue for the fastest growing minority group in the country any longer
yeah, his approval numbers in a number of polls indicate that his presidential numbers should start ticking up soon. also, a strong debate (or at least one that generates enthusiasm among his base) will greatly help him.
Aaron Strife
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Hook it into my veins!
Have we posted them here before?
What is disgusting is his head cock and eye movement as he waits for audience reaction to key words or zingers. @0:46
I notice this from him alot.
TacticalFox88
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On the other hand, I FULLY expect Obama to be the Democrat's Reagan over the next three-to-four decades.
My veins are too solid with ice. The hopium wouldn't flow. Folks were panicking a bit too early, too easily.
I'm guessing that yesterday might've been the last day of Romney peaking. If that's the best Romney can do.. well, then.. *giggle*
Black Republican
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never head of em, good polsters?
Didn't Mitt say something about this in the 47% video. He said they have to watch that Latinos don't become a democratic block like African Americans.
I'm guessing you're against single payer health care? Why exactly? You sound like a reasonable (Eisenhower) Republican, at least you've recognized the party is no longer what it used to be.
Never actually heard of this poll before but they've been polling the race all year. Looking for internals now but they haven't shown up on my twitter feed yet
UNF = University of North Florida btw
ryutaro's mama
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He does if his support gets complacent and just tells pollsters that they approve of him and don't actually vote.
Approval =/= Votes
That's where his ground game comes in. If they approve and some people come to their doors, they'll probably vote.
joke? i thought gallup was generally considered the among the best.
Ok needs them internals.
TacticalFox88
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Again. Who and where are these "complacent" voters? People keep throwing that out there when in reality there's little, if any, evidence for it.
Black Republican
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SC aint going blue anytime soon, so i dont even know why GOP is wasting their time with this
More info on the UNF FL poll
http://saintpetersblog.com/2012/10/unf-poll-of-florida-obama-49-romney-45/
http://saintpetersblog.com/2012/10/unf-poll-of-florida-obama-49-romney-45/
The law is clear for 2013 not 2012 btw.
Also I have no clue why they are wasting their times.
aronnov reborn
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and then we'll have a true one party socialist regime for the rest of time for the USA. GAF's wet dream.
The Technomancer
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Man, if Texas ever goes blue...I don't know how you get past that. That seems insurmountable, you'd have to get basically the entire midwest solid red
Thanks, sounds good.
empty vessel
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Indeed. That is why ensuring that demand for goods and services is optimized is so important--when demand is assured to be adequate, risk of hiring and producing goods and services is minimized. And ensuring that aggregate demand--i.e., the demand for goods and services by individuals in the aggregate--is adequate is the responsibility of the government, because it creates money, spends money, and taxes money, which vitally affects demand. Moreover, taxes are relevant to aggregate demand. However, it is not the taxes on individual businesses that matter to aggregate demand, but the taxes of everybody else--i.e., consumers. If taxes on consumers--average, working people--are too high, aggregate demand will suffer. Of course, government spending is also relevant. The more a government net spends (i.e., spends more than taxes), the higher aggregate demand will be. It is net spending that controls here, not simply taxes or spending in isolation.
aronnov reborn
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i dont think you can. civil war time maybe. that's about it at that point as republicans would never be represented as president again. you'd have almost 50% of the population forever never be in power.
voter suppression, gerrymandering, strict 'anti-immigration' laws
If they dont know much about Ryan, Biden needs to stick him with Medicare vouchers and even maybe bring up his previous plan to privatize social security (perhaps in a "these are the big, terrible ideas he has" way).
cartoon_soldier
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Umm...Not sure where the winning decidedly comes from. We need more OH, IA and WI polls. Even Nate will tell you that if the margin of victory in the popular vote is +2% the user will win EC too.
TacticalFox88
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Though to be fair, I think, at that point, the GOP would've formed into something else entirely already, distancing themselves from the crazy.
But, in the off chance that they didn't....lol. A Dem would have to fuck up on the scale of GWB to lose the White House.
Black Republican
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Gop to Flip PA & Illinois in retaliation!
Romney has very very few paths to victory.
Their "moment of realization" on this matter is going to be fascinating, perhaps scary, and incredibly entertaining to watch. They're boned, and many of them don't even realize it yet.
aronnov reborn
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i dont see this. I see Romney having a great chance right now.
eBay Huckster
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they're reasonably high up in terms of accuracy, they just have somewhat of a GOP lean (less than rasmussen's and definitely less than gravis/WAA)
In what world?
30% is p. great.
The world where GAF wants a one party socialist regime.
aronnov reborn
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in the world that he only needs florida, virg, nc, and ohio and he basically has it.. and he could take all of those right now.
Black Republican
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i see what you did there!
ryutaro's mama
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Ok, here's an example:
Someone could poll me on whether I liked some person singing on American Idol. I could give a high approval to that but it doesn't mean that will get me actually call the phone number and vote for them.
aronnov reborn
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because 90% of GAF isn't a lib or socialist?
Personally I think he will win 300+ evs. That to me is a blowout.
I think people on here have too much faith in Obama. He's been a good President, but he's not (currently) the game changer that someone like Clinton was.
Please tell me you see the difference between these two ideologies.
I appreciate your posts because they show us exactly how much difficulty the Republican party is going to have doing the reinvention it badly needs to do and why they're going to spend 20 years nominating Carters and Mondales.
Once Texas goes demographically blue, the GOP will be forced to review its core positions and completely abandon its Southern Strategy (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_..._of_southern_voters_bolster_its_chances_.html), lest it be replaced by another party.
If they're smart, they'll realize they need to do this sooner rather than later.
Of course, the Electoral College going away would negate the impact of Texas going blue; however, the demographics of the country as a whole are veering left, so even if we finally switch to popular vote for the presidential election, the GOP will need to leave its medieval politics behind it.
If they're smart, they'll realize they need to do this sooner rather than later.
Of course, the Electoral College going away would negate the impact of Texas going blue; however, the demographics of the country as a whole are veering left, so even if we finally switch to popular vote for the presidential election, the GOP will need to leave its medieval politics behind it.
Romney can win ALL FOUR of those and still lose.
http://www.270towin.com/2012_election_predictions.php?mapid=Glm
What are Clinton's tangible achievements for progressives outside of a good economy (which is no small thing)?
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