Khaki suit. Impeach, IMO.
Is he actually wearing that? It looks shopped.
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Is he actually wearing that? It looks shopped.
Aaron Strife
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I agree - I'm sure the fact that I like what he's saying plays into my preferring his method. But I feel like Nate and other pundits put too much weight on "fundamentals" even though it would have shown up in polling by now. Take 2012 for example - Jon Tester built a small lead in polling in the last couple months, but nope, Montana's a Republican state, so 2-1 odds for the Republican. Tester won, of course. North Dakota was even worse. It's lazy analysis.
Of course, this doesn't extend to reliably blue states like Michigan and Pennsylvania, which will always be tossups because why not.
Heh, guy in my Business Law class looked like an idiot buying into some of the right-wing fear machine. Professor asked about examples of President Obama and his executive orders, or what people are actually concerned about.
His example was President Obama violating the second amendment by taking away AR-15s after Sandy Hook by Executive Order. Professor just kinda stared at him, and asked him what the hell he was talking about.
His example was President Obama violating the second amendment by taking away AR-15s after Sandy Hook by Executive Order. Professor just kinda stared at him, and asked him what the hell he was talking about.
speculawyer
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I love it when right-wing bubble world information meets the real world.
But the thing that gets me is that they never get mad at the source of the misinformation. Instead, they get mad at the rest of the world.
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Here's my example:
The other day in the breakroom at work, a couple of coworkers were talking about the whole Israel-Gaza conflict. Obama came up, and one of the guys says "You know, Obama has made more executive orders than all of the past presidents combined." At this point, I feel the need to interject and tell him "Actually, besides the first Bush, he's made less than every president since FDR."
The guy's response? "Yeah, the ones on record, maybe."
That's when I just walked out.
Armoured Priest
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"But why would Fox News lie to me?"
NYCmetsfan
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Rhomega Beta
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He's wearing it. I was surprised myself, considering he's never worn it before (to my knowledge).
In regards to alcohol, I work at a Fry's in Arizona, and you have to wait until 6 AM to buy booze. There used to be a law where you had to wait until 10 AM to buy on Sunday, but that got pulled.
Aaron Strife
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538: Don't worry guys, Scott Walker is still totally ahead
Yes, in spite of Marquette's almost unrivaled accuracy in Wisconsin in 2012 (both the general election and the recall), let's start questioning them now that they show the Democrat leading.
538 sucks.
Yes, in spite of Marquette's almost unrivaled accuracy in Wisconsin in 2012 (both the general election and the recall), let's start questioning them now that they show the Democrat leading.
538 sucks.
NYCmetsfan
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This is why the dems need to keep control
NYCmetsfan
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http://www.cnn.com/video/standard.h...-ferguson.cnn.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGCl_
Clinton comments on ferguson. Probably still gonna get blasted.
Spoiler, its more progressive than Obama's
Clinton comments on ferguson. Probably still gonna get blasted.
Spoiler, its more progressive than Obama's
Aaron Strife
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Careful Rand Paul could steal them away
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thepotatoman
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I did not expect that. That's encouraging.
The main problem I have is it's a bit ambiguous about why Ferguson looked like a war zone, and who are the good cops she's talking about. I'm not sure I can call that a criticism to the militarized response to the protests, even with the statement about "inspiring trust rather than fear". It just sounds to me like she's saying that the Ferguson police did mostly do that, which I definitely disagree with.
But yeah, she was extremely clear about the race issue, and I'm happy about that.
JesseEwiak
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The positives of not being POTUS or in any political office. I'm sure Clinton was President and Obama was still a Senator or whatever, he'd be a little tougher than he currently is.
PhoenixDark
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I guess Mitt's 2008 and 2012 former press secretary Kevin Madden didn't enjoy my comments to him today...
I think he took offense at me calling him a clown and employing laughable PR strategies?
So you can't acknowledge that the president saying he has no strategy isn't a message a president should send, especially given the various outs he could use ("none that I can share publicly; we're continuing to weight our options but what we do know is..."). Clown shoes.
But given my view that there should be no ISIS strategy I can't get too mad.
Considering there hasn't been a single libertarian running as a Dem, they've all run as Republicans, that was obvious.
Aaron Strife
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yeah I don't feel like there's been any prominent libertarian who's decided "You know what, I'm going to run as a Democrat." They've all gone with the Republicans.
There have been Democrats with libertarian-ish positions like Brian Schweitzer or Russ Feingold but they're also very liberal economically.
smokeandmirrors
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careful. I've mentioned this exact sentence on this forum and was called ignorant and wrong so lol.
trying to figure out what the RNC will use in ads against her in 2 years.
oh wait "I applaud President Obama" will be plastered everywhere
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thepotatoman
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Remember when Republicans somehow got anyone who dared bring up Bush to be ashamed of themselves for playing such dirty politics when McCain was the candidate? It'll be funny to watch that tide turn.
Still, I wonder what Obama's approval rating will be after 2 years of record high veto numbers should republicans win the house and senate.
smokeandmirrors
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Well if democrats and other sane individuals can get out and show what some of the (potential) batshit stuff that would flow to Obama's desk that necessitated the need for a veto, probably not much different than now.
Coming back into the real world, probably not too high then.
It's one thing for Fox and Politico to play gotcha with Obama's "strategy" comments without context but it's pretty surreal that the mainstream media is playing along as well.
You'd think this was a random political foodfight not a discussion about using military force.
Except that's not what he was saying at all. He said they have no strategy to bomb Syria. Pretty much trying to walk back the war drumbeat of the past week
What's really galling is the coordinated attempt by the GOP to blame the situation in Iraq on Obama for "losing" the war Bush had "won". Will the public really swallow this?
You'd think this was a random political foodfight not a discussion about using military force.
Except that's not what he was saying at all. He said they have no strategy to bomb Syria. Pretty much trying to walk back the war drumbeat of the past week
What's really galling is the coordinated attempt by the GOP to blame the situation in Iraq on Obama for "losing" the war Bush had "won". Will the public really swallow this?
smokeandmirrors
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Dat Liberal Media tho
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thepotatoman
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We're talking about war here. All of the mainstream media has always played to the most hawkish side regarding issues of war. Even MSNBC.
Good comments.
Black people talking about the black experience usually falls on deaf ears. Perhaps the same message coming from Hillary will penetrate into those who may not usually listen.
And honestly, who cares if she is going to get blasted by the usual detractors? It's not as if those people were going to support anything she says anyway. If the Fox coverage is anything to go by, these people are more concerned with false equivalences, faux outrage ("what about the violence in Chicago?") and the politics of changing the subject.
Nope. Here's the vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i-cY5PGC8A&list=UUYxRlFDqcWM4y7FfpiAN3KQ
Must be a desperate attempt to divert the media narrative away from the lousy economy #ShitPDsays
Most have. War fever is heating up in America again.
Among talking heads and politicians sure, but not among average Americans. Iraq ruined war for at least another half decade.
speculawyer
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Third black president.
The media feeds on clickbait and gotchas and combine that with it's love for war and it's not surprising that they are sensationalizing Obama's comments.
Turtleface is gonna strong arm the President into repealing the ACA? Possible! Imagine how many bills will be sent to his desk via a simple majority repealing the ACA, should the GOP win the Senate.
Frankly, though -- it's amazing how many solid Republicans hate this guy too. Corbett is probably the worst governor this state has ever had. I've never seen a politician so loathed in Pennsylvania.
Wolf is going to be great for PA.
I've talked to some of them... they exist...
Frankly, though -- it's amazing how many solid Republicans hate this guy too. Corbett is probably the worst governor this state has ever had. I've never seen a politician so loathed in Pennsylvania.
Wolf is going to be great for PA.
NYCmetsfan
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American's won't go for another war with ground troops until the US homeland is attacked, Iran shows a nuke (since this as been primed). I can't see anything else arsing passions in any serious way that will make people want to put solders a risk.
Bombing campaigns? They'll go for that.
Turtleface is gonna strong arm the President into repealing the ACA? Possible! Imagine how many bills will be sent to his desk via a simple majority repealing the ACA, should the GOP win the Senate.
I've talked to some of them... they exist...
Frankly, though -- it's amazing how many solid Republicans hate this guy too. Corbett is probably the worst governor this state has ever had. I've never seen a politician so loathed in Pennsylvania.
Wolf is going to be great for PA.
Ummm, zero? Unless I totally missed the projections showing the GOP getting 60+ seats in the Senate.
AnotherNils
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I had a crazy thought. Since Fergudon we're talking about having cameras on police officers but obviously that's going to take time not to mention fights over the cost and purported necessity. What would happen if Obama (or some other prominent politician) were to make an announcement such as "body cameras are the future of law enforcement, and public safety. But implementing this technology will take time, which is why I encourage all Americans, in the meantime, to use their cellphones to record all their interactions with law enforcement so as to have an objective witness to their circumstances, as is their right under the first amendment."
The right would explode right? But how would they sin their opposition?
The right would explode right? But how would they sin their opposition?
Aaron Strife
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Hopefully he'll have enough coattails to let Democrats win the State Senate (they just need 3 for a majority, 2 for a tie). Maybe even the State House which is a bit harder, although both chambers have been gerrymandered because of course.
If they managed to score a trifecta they couldn't redistrict the state legislative maps, but the congressional maps would be fair game.
adamsappel
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"Obama's racist spy army."
zero shift
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I respect your opinion. I also believe that it is a nation's duty to keep people clothed, housed, and fed. However different people need different amounts of aid depending on what they are doing. Someone who wants the opportunity to save up and move to a different area to start a career in a booming industry or go to a school has much different needs of aid than someone who just merely wants to wake up and merely live everyday without working. To me it would be silly to give all of these people equal aid. The person who wants to better their life will not only need more money than the person who doesn't want to work, but also put it to better use as they go to school or special trades. It would therefore, to me, make more sense to redirect the surplus of welfare the person who doesn't work gets to the person who wants to go to school or relocate.
Now you could of course say "Well what if a child of non-working welfare recipient wants to better their life, how do you not know that non-working welfare person will start giving money to invest in their child?", which would be a good argument. Luckily this is where things such as equal public education (such as found in FInland), universal healthcare, free daycare, and what not come in to give equal overall care and investment in every child. Once that child grows up to become a young adult then they themselves can receive the welfare needs they need.
That's how I see it at least. Though my views on government aid and redistribution are deeper than that.
Metaphoreus
This is semantics, and nothing more
No doubt while twirling their mustaches.
AnotherNils
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While implying tha Obama is disrespecting officers by implying they need to be recorded, I imagine.
Aaron Strife
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PPP has Shaheen beating Brown 50-44 in a New Hampshire poll
"It's on" go home Politico you suck
"It's on" go home Politico you suck
Metaphoreus
This is semantics, and nothing more
I think some on the right would say that, but there are others on the right who have been adamant in their defense of a constitutional right to record police. And I think that Obama himself recognizes that a statement such as the one you've proposed would serve only to inflame passions, which is why he won't do it. (Not to mention that the implicit message that the police can't be trusted seems at odds with liberalism's general trust of government power.)
benjipwns
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R.J. Harris did this year.
There's like four prominent libertarians total. And they have no chance in a Democratic primary or are too busy hosting the Price is Right.
Aaron Strife
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http://www.politicspa.com/pa-gov-internal-memo-corbett-down-7-points/60034/
Desperation is putting out an internal poll showing you losing "only" by 7 and you're the incumbent
I think even if Dems lose the Senate they can still clean up in gov races
Desperation is putting out an internal poll showing you losing "only" by 7 and you're the incumbent
I think even if Dems lose the Senate they can still clean up in gov races
PhoenixDark
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Cameras on police should be a state issue. Not from a constitutional perspective but from a community issue. Ferguson is an example of many towns and cities that are represented by incompetent or downright ugly people who have no fear of losing their jobs because the community isn't involved. Ferguson has one black person on their municipal council; not saying the 5 whites on the council are bad or shouldn't be there, but if people were more involved there would be more than one black person there.
Your school board, city council, mayor, sheriffs, local judges, etc have more of an immediate impact on your life than the senate or president. Cameras on police is a great issue to start getting people more involved in their local government.
Your school board, city council, mayor, sheriffs, local judges, etc have more of an immediate impact on your life than the senate or president. Cameras on police is a great issue to start getting people more involved in their local government.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Why are Dems doing so well in Gov races this year?
Martha Coakley Part 2
Black Mamba
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Because states with GOP governors have, for the most part, have done shitty compared to states without them.
Unsurprising given GOP policies.
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