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Surprise: Trump falls behind Cruz in natl NBC/WSJ poll
Cruz 28
Trump 26
Rubio 17
Kasich 11
Carson 10
Jeb 4


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Multiple polls with Jeb in last place, either nationally or in SC. I just don't believe it but maybe I should. He had a good debate last week IMO, or at least a "not bad" one...but he's still a terrible candidate.
 
That NBC poll is a blatant outlier given all of the information we have at the moment, but maybe the trend goes towards Cruz over the next few days. Or, it doesn't.

It's either an outlier or the first poll during a major shift. Only explanations and we can't know the answer, yet.
 

Allard

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This looks much less gerrymandered.

Well, except for 4, what the heck.

At least 4 doesn't look like an octopus shat itself like a lot of gerrymandered states/districts can look like (yes even democratic ones), it doesn't circle itself at least and has a defined border that doesn't cross into and out of and then back in again like some of the worst ones, trying to think of a less gerrymandered look then this.
 
With all the money the GOP candidates have it seems really crazy just how terrible some of these campaign are doing. It looks like they waste too much money on ads than anything else. After all the debates which had record numbers, some of these candidates are still doing poorly and I think some still have relatively low familiarity like Kasich.
 
That Umass Socialist projecting that the multiplier is at 1.25 right now (at 5% unemployment...), uhh, not sure about that, dude.

Changes in employment are estimated from their estimates of GDP growth on the assumption that every 2.32% increase in GDP will bring a 1% increase in employment.


.... Does this guy not assume an upper bound for employment?

Higher demand for labor is also associated with an increase in labor productivity and this accounts for about half of the increase in economic growth under the Sanders program.

Alrighty then.


http://www.dollarsandsense.org/What-would-Sanders-do-013016.pdf

5.3% growth, highest employment rate in U.S. history despite massive tax rates for every bracket.

Bernie is the Paul Ryan of the left if he starts promoting these estimates...
 
Yeah. Bernie and Trump were called at the same time in New Hampshire essentially as soon as they saw that the exit polls were lining up. The same will happen with South Carolina.
 

Holmes

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Yeah, South Carolina will be called for Clinton and Trump when the polls close. As for Super Tuesday, Texas, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, Arkansas and maybe Virginia are called for Clinton when polls close, and Vermont and maybe Minnesota are called for Sanders when polls close/caucus begins.
 

danm999

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Yeah, South Carolina will be called for Clinton and Trump when the polls close. As for Super Tuesday, Texas, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, Arkansas and maybe Virginia are called for Clinton when polls close, and Vermont and maybe Minnesota are called for Sanders when polls close/caucus begins.

Vermont can be called before the polls close +76 Sanders holy shit.
 

Teggy

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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 8h8 hours ago
.@FoxNews is so biased it is disgusting. They do not want Trump to win. All negative!

Trump referring to himself in the third person? Is this a hint that Trump has people tweeting for him in character?
 
It still amazes me to this day that Vermont went red in 1988..
The Northeast's sharp leftward turn makes the (very old) saying "As Maine goes, so goes Vermont" funnier in hindsight.

I believe FDR quipped that about one of his reelection campaigns, as Maine was previously a bellwether but it and Vermont were the only two states to vote against him.
 
The Northeast's sharp leftward turn makes the (very old) saying "As Maine goes, so goes Vermont" funnier in hindsight.

I believe FDR quipped that about one of his reelection campaigns, as Maine was previously a bellwether but it and Vermont were the only two states to vote against him.

It was actually DNC chairman Jim Farley who made that quip.
 
I just saw a local poll on my local news in RI that showed Sanders has a 5% lead or something over Clinton in Massachusetts, I don't remember the polling shop though.
 
The Northeast's sharp leftward turn makes the (very old) saying "As Maine goes, so goes Vermont" funnier in hindsight.

I believe FDR quipped that about one of his reelection campaigns, as Maine was previously a bellwether but it and Vermont were the only two states to vote against him.
This is true. The 1936 election brought about the rise of Gallup and the polling systems largely still used today. Before then, it was haphazard and the most famous use was a magazine that polled using mail in surveys and predicted FDR would lose by like 300 electoral votes. FDR won with well over 400 electorals. The magazine went under soon after.

Before that election, the saying was "As Maine goes, so does the Country".
 
Same, it'd be fun for once. That's a pretty ambitious list for Sanders, though. Kind of underscores how high of a hill he has to climb, not to mention his momentum being completely derailed after Super Tuesday.

If Clinton comes out and wins Kansas, Louisiana, and Nebraska, it's over.

EDIT: LOL I didn't see that he has to win New York. Yeah, no.

Nate did just tweet:
California could be the most important battle between Bernie and Hillary .. and it doesn't vote until June 7. http://53eig.ht/2192qeg
 

NeoXChaos

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Emerson College Poll

Breaking: Latest #SouthCarolina Poll Results:
Donald Trump: 33%
Ted Cruz: 20%
Marco Rubio: 19%
Jeb Bush: 9%
John Kasich: 9%
Ben Carson: 5%
 
2012 flashback:

What that would mean for the GOP would differ wildly depending on which of the two current front-runners, along with the coalition that elevated him to the nomination, is blamed for the debacle. “If Romney is the nominee and he loses in November, I think we’ll see a resurgence of the charismatic populist right,” says Robert Alan Goldberg, a history professor at the University of Utah and author of a biography of Barry Goldwater. “Not only will [the grassroots wing] say that Romney led Republicans down the road to defeat, but that the whole type of conservatism he represents is doomed.”
http://nymag.com/news/features/gop-primary-heilemann-2012-3/index6.html
 
We discussed it in a previous universe just after Vermont was called for Sanders.

Hillary's going to win Vermont, and by win I mean lose by 80 points. If she loses by 70 points or less, it's a moral victory. That's how it works, right? :p

Bernie trying to Bernsplain Killer Mike's statements. Awesome.
 
Same, it'd be fun for once. That's a pretty ambitious list for Sanders, though. Kind of underscores how high of a hill he has to climb, not to mention his momentum being completely derailed after Super Tuesday.

If Clinton comes out and wins Kansas, Louisiana, and Nebraska, it's over.

EDIT: LOL I didn't see that he has to win New York. Yeah, no.

I'm confident that Bernie is winning Kansas and Nebraska and Hillary is winning Louisiana.
 
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