StopMakingSense
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But DUCKS, guys.
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I see what you did there.
RustyNails
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No audio = no play.
Come at the orange, best not miss.
Come at the orange, best not miss.
Manmademan
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i told y'all about that florida hispanic vote. none of the polling there was going to be accurate.
No one expects the secret Latino vote
Not sure how it'll play out, but lets say NBC has stories attacking him on this issue and hae interviews with people.
At the very least. If Donald has to come out and attack/defend himself that's a loss for him.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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Justice Dept: You have to stop discriminating
Trump: Wrong
Trump: Wrong
User 463088
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Not the point. If this ends up on Dateline or Nightly or whatever, people will talk about it. When was the last time the media picked up on it? You also have a great chance to drop something about the Central Park 5. Something like this, known oppo, is still useful. It keeps people talking. Also, Trump has Daddy issues. He will not stand for this.
Yeah it is a pretty compelling story especially since they talk to victims and people that worked on the case.
I dont get this we had plenty of stories with no audio why does this matter now?
aspiegamer
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Cooper on CNN has some good o**o audio of Trump bankruptcy bragging.
Trump is such a divisive jerk he's going to throw the polling industry into an existential crisis for a decade after this election. In the future, when asking someone how likely they are to vote or their feelings on a topic, they'll need to rate it from "1" to "Trump," so see if they're just annoyed or Trump 2016-level annoyed.
Manmademan
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EVERYONE should have!
Enough puerto ricans to fill the city of Dallas were dropped on Florida in the space of four years. All of them eligible to vote, and NO ONE expected it to royally fuck up likely voter polls?
That's not why. see the above. No matter who ran this year, likely voter models would not have been accurate for florida. The population went up way too fast from a population that's way too hard to poll.
Do they only poll in English?
Citizenship test classes had a huge enrollment spike in Texas this year and the primary reason given was so they could vote against Trump.
Manmademan
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I wrote a post about this yesterday or the day before:
also, to tack on to that, the bloomberg article I posted earlier today points out that pollsters generally don't bother separating "latino" out into place of origin. they make no distinction between cubans, PR's, mexicans, etc. The only one that does (latino decisions) came up with extremely alarming 75/15 numbers for Trump among that population- and that number was even LOWER among the island born PR population..which would be all of that 1 million that just flooded in. It's basically zero.
i seriously hope all those voters are voting against rubio.
edit: don't puerto ricans have a really high voting turnout rate in puerto rico? hopefully those people who moved to miami turn out to vote.
That's so awesome!
Very interesting. Now CNN doing a whole segment on how polls work and how Donald sucks
Do they? What has you so certain? I'd really love to see Rubio slammed, but don't want to get too hyped lol
Manmademan
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They do, but the bloomberg article mentions its not as high when they get here, because the culture around voting is different. Voting day is pretty much a holiday over there, street carnivals, etc.
not so much in florida.
Democrats have been putting WORK in getting them to turn out though, correctly assuming it's a numbers game. Get them to the polls to vote for hillary and the rest takes care of itself.
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I was poking around 538's updates and found Gravis' latest national poll!!
Clinton - 50
Trump - 50
... Registered voters.
I don't want to be that guy but I almost want to say they completely made this one up
I'll be that guy.
They totally made it up.
I was poking around 538's updates and found Gravis' latest national poll!!
Clinton - 50
Trump - 50
... Registered voters.
I don't want to be that guy but I almost want to say they completely made this one up
Lol. Soooo many Trump hopefuls are going to be celebrating that poll. I'd feel bad if it were anybody else.
StopMakingSense
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I was poking around 538's updates and found Gravis' latest national poll!!
Clinton - 50
Trump - 50
... Registered voters.
I don't want to be that guy but I almost want to say they completely made this one up
O M G
I'm too lazy to find it but a couple of weeks ago Good Nate tweeted out, "Sorry Trump supporters, but Gravis, Emerson and Rasmussen just don't meet quality standards."
Followed that with... "Bad firms, bad data, landline only, etc."
Meanwhile, Bad Nate "Let's include all of these and weigh the shit out of them!!"
Followed that with... "Bad firms, bad data, landline only, etc."
Meanwhile, Bad Nate "Let's include all of these and weigh the shit out of them!!"
Manmademan
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I was poking around 538's updates and found Gravis' latest national poll!!
Clinton - 50
Trump - 50
... Registered voters.
I don't want to be that guy but I almost want to say they completely made this one up
I went to their website to see the details. the raw numbers actually look fine. Obama's favorability is underwater when it shouldn't be, and hillary is lower than I remember her being on average, but otherwise there's nothing glaring like forgetting that blacks and hispanics exist.
what's probably going on is this:
They polled enough minorities, women, etc- but since they "don't anticipate" they'll actually turn out in large numbers, and "do anticipate" a silent majority of white voters with high school degrees mysteriously showing up on november 8th, the weighting is all out of whack.
That makes sense. I'll be the first to admit I didn't actually look at the numbers. But that result is so hysterical I had to post it.
Manmademan
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funny how the pollsters with absolutely ludicrous, get the fuck out of here results always lean republican? you never see a wacky dem pollster consistently coming up with Hillary +20 when everyone else has her at +5.
Gravis/Rasmussen/IBD do it and no one bats an eye.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Newt screams at Megyn Kelly that she only cares about sex and not public policy because Megyn Kelly covered Trump assaulting women more than Hillary saying that open borders would be nice, Megyn Kelly tells Newt to fuck off and work on anger management.
https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/791090355248762880
Team Trump responds:
https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/791095041838186496
Finally, bringing back an old classic to finish up the campaign.
https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/791090355248762880
Team Trump responds:
https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/791095041838186496
Finally, bringing back an old classic to finish up the campaign.
Just got back from this a little while ago. She's got so much energy, and is totally engaging. Really hoping we get our nasty woman into the Senate~
Eh.... I think the polls that have her at +12 or higher could be overly in her favor. When many other polls have them around +5 to +7, a result like +12 is really not so removed from a tie.
It's always fun to watch the mental gymnastics at work, trying to make Gingrich's outbursts a win.
I love the "Nasty Woman" portion of her speech.
I hope Hillary gives her a powerful position in her government.
Fragamemnon
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every time newt opens his mouth and moralizes/equivocates the person on the other end should remind him "well we all know you banged more than just the gavel while speaker of the house".
cooljeanius
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To which Eichenwald responded by tweeting a story about lawyers offering to defend Trump accusers for free. So either Liz Mair never knew about this offer previously, in which case she knows now, so we should be getting that oppo soon, or she's just using "legal fees" as a cover-up for the fact that she doesn't actually have anything in the same way that Trump uses the IRS audit to excuse his failure to release his tax returns.Liz Mair said:
Yes Newt go back to attacking Bill. Something you told Donald NOT to do. They know it's over. They are fighting themselves at this point.
Why do you guys torture yourself with news on the television? I'm going to flatly say that it's all trash and sensationalized. Even the good guys. All of these networks. I have to turn to PBS for some sanity and I even dislike that. NPR will continue to be my source of choice. That, and various articles on the internet from sites not named CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc.... because their sensationalism is, IMO, a drag on our society.
Maybe I'm weird but.....I don't know. I get so angry watching the television news. I constantly feel like I'm trying to weed my way through sludge to find out what the news is.
And people. Fucking. Love it.
Maybe I'm weird but.....I don't know. I get so angry watching the television news. I constantly feel like I'm trying to weed my way through sludge to find out what the news is.
And people. Fucking. Love it.
RastaMentality
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jesus megyn effortlessly ripped off his skull at the end of this clip while being unbothered the entire time. she sucks but this was great.
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