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PoliGAF 2016 |OT16| Unpresidented
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Still have Orrin Hatch to get through, but the prophesy would be fulfilled by him anyway!
You kidding? He's like their messiah. Trump is proof they can take win and take real power, hell they may well think he's given them the blueprint for it.
Bonen no Max'd
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What if the prophecy is real but then it's actually Reid that's the Mormon that saves the world?
Or Glenn Beck.
I don't doubt that but I know certain politicians like Theresa May, Jin Xiping and Putin are all brown nosing him because while they know Trump is a huge fool, his skin and temperament can take a swing for the worse in foreign affairs. The alt right and racists love Trump but those who don't like him would definitely have to basically beg on their knees and blow.
gutter_trash
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That's a "I've made a horrible mistake" face if I've ever seen one.
Emerson
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record scratch
"Yep, that's me. You might be wondering how I got into this mess..."
Wag
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This is what "dying inside" looks like.
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Trump: You're getting pegged tonight.
A Serious Man
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I will be stunned if Trump's face in that pic doesn't become a Twitch emoticon for trolling.
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Not a caption, but I love how Romney is eating some haute cuisine and Trump is finishing off a massive bowl of frosted flakes.
BreezyLimbo
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he's a simple man like you and me
enjoys frosted flakes at night
enjoys kfc in his plane
that's my president
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Yeah, and it's why fake stories are so easy to believe for so many. For one thing, they prey upon people's fears, and for another, they rely on people's unwillingness to seek more information and depth about the news the consume.
Odd thing related to this: My wife isn't huge on reading the news, because she wants more information about certain things (like, say, Arab/Israeli conflict), but news stories assume a good deal of prior knowledge. So, she's the kind-of opposite of the "fake story" rube - she might notice a headline that's inflammatory or biased, but she knows herself (and the situation) well enough to not assume that the story printed is all there is to it.
Beer Monkey
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I want Romney to get it so badly just because it is going to create fractures within the Trump camp.
Slurpy2k20
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Go fuck yourself, Romney. You hypocritical, spineless twat.
In this sense, I can see why Trump's message of outsider/draintheswamp was intriguing. Imagine a Trump PEOTUS who actually hired outside the DC political establishment or Wall Street, but were still people who had expertise. Greece did it when Yanis Varoufakis served as Finance minister, for example. Yes, still an "elite" in the sense of an intellectual, but outside of the normal politician. Thing is, it requires a good knowledge of people who are experts in their field but in the private or non-profit sector, and who are also willing to work for you.
It also requires not being a hypocritical dick who'll say anything to get elected, and then laugh at the chumps who bought your lies.
eddievanclaylen
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Tried a quote, didnt work.
It was about Chicago-Naperville-Elgin being a slice of regular Americans or something.
Its where Ive lived my whole life
I must be normal!
It was about Chicago-Naperville-Elgin being a slice of regular Americans or something.
Its where Ive lived my whole life
I must be normal!
I want him to get it because he's one of the the three least bad option.
I love this so much.
I just really feel like Romney's trying to take one for the team going for SoS. I hope so anyway; he seems like one of the only cabinet considerations so far who's not a complete mess of a human being.
Dominican Power
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Trevor Noah was on point tonight.
if romney somehow gets the presidency I'm going to find god and kiss him on the mouth.
why does this remind me of the shining so much
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why does this remind me of the shining so much
Dominican Power
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I thought nothing would beat the Christie gif, then along came the Ted Ceruz phonebanking picture.
Christie still comes off as the biggest loser though.
Aaron Strife
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Really tired of all this fat shaming tbqh
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"Send help, pls."
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Romney: "Good evening, and welcome to my new series exploring the inspiration behind some of the greatest songs in the world. Tonight: The Rolling Stones "Sympathy for the Devil"... Lucifer, it's good to meet you at last."
(Yeah, I know Trump doesn't really scan with the lyrics of the song, but he genuinely looks evil there)
IAmAnAgnostic
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Trump Tweets again. This time about Ohio. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/803921522784092160
Ohhhhhh! We're actually going to find out what Trump's plan for ISIS is, right?
This might be one lie he can't avoid when it comes to his voters, especially if domestic terror cells that affiliate with ISIS continue to be an issue. He's certainly going to be a one-term president if he can't stem the tide of terrorist attacks on US soil.
This might be one lie he can't avoid when it comes to his voters, especially if domestic terror cells that affiliate with ISIS continue to be an issue. He's certainly going to be a one-term president if he can't stem the tide of terrorist attacks on US soil.
Aaron Strife
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Nah, terrorist attacks tend to be the kind of thing Americans rally behind their president on. Expect a lot of "Trump is tough on turrur!" even if these start happening every week and it becomes blatantly obvious he isn't doing anything to stop it (and realistically, probably provoking it).
See: "Bush kept us safe" after the biggest terrorist attack in American history. The same people who lost their shit about Benghazi (which they tried and failed to sink Obama with, tried and sadly probably succeeded for Hillary) didn't make a peep during the Bush years when embassies were attacked and many more lives lost.
I think the way Democrats win in 2020 is if it becomes apparent to the people who voted Trump for "change" (hey guys, new political phrase - "Trump Change") realize it was a change for the worse. Domestic terrorist attacks happening could certainly facilitate that, but a failing economy would do it faster.
RastaMentality
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https://twitter.com/2dAmMuslim/status/803811200664535040
The Carrier deal didn't shake me that much but the possibility of this happening constantly over the next 4 years is scary. especially since it'll happen right next to terribly fucked up things in the administration. the WWC will eat this up and ignore everything else as long as the economy isn't in the gutter.
Dems need to find a consistent opposition message to this and start laying the foundation. Or maybe people can roll over and talk about how "genius" Trump is instead.
The Chosen One
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Looks like someone at NBC talked to Joe about his Trump propaganda campaign. Joe is now waaay toned down compared to the past week. I'm also sure with the published reports of Joe advising Trump and having a bunch of cameras catching Mika at Trump Tower yesterday with a "deer in headlights" look made them realize they had to put the brakes on their blatant Trump fandom.
Yeah, you're right, but I do see (note: not want) a large-ish terror attack that pushes the economy over the edge coming.
For it to happen constantly, Trump and/or Pence has to go talk to these companies one-by-one. Whilst this is possible - and the perception of the Carrier "rescue" is sharper than the reality - it's not an economic policy, as has been noted on Twitter:
Short-term, it's a bad move, long-term, it's an even worse move. And that's before we get to the tax breaks that Trump is giving these companies, which will help sink the economy in various ways.
As always, it's perception v reality. It will need a bit of luck, but the dumbass electorate should be feeling the pain by 2020, if not 2018.
balladofwindfishes
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He can announce all the random factories he wants, he can't hide from unemployment numbers and hard job numbers data. He also can't hide from these people literally not having jobs.
Hillary had the same stories Trump is using about Obama. "He kept such and such factory open. Democrats helped created x jobs" and it didn't mean anything because these people were not the jobs that were created and they will continue to be because their jobs do not exist anymore and will never exist again.
Hillary had the same stories Trump is using about Obama. "He kept such and such factory open. Democrats helped created x jobs" and it didn't mean anything because these people were not the jobs that were created and they will continue to be because their jobs do not exist anymore and will never exist again.
nature boy
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You're must be joking, they just talked about the Carrier deal and didn't bother to mention the tax breaks or how half will go to Mexico.
At best they're in the "let's work with him and give him a chance" mode. But I think they're ass kissing for access.
shinra-bansho
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I prepared a graph for the US media to use:
Yeah, whilst I say it's about perception, if only half of Carrier's 2000 jobs are saved, then that's 1000 people added to the unemployment count, and 1000 people who voted for Trump to save their jobs and he didn't. It's going to be the reality of that that hits Trump's support.
Bruce Springsteen
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The Chosen One
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They were waaaay worse the previous days. Way worse. That's why CNN called them out.
Anyway, I agree saving a random factory here and there is hardly an economic plan. We need to create 200-250k jobs per month for the economy to grow at a decent rate. So saving a few factories with 1k or 2k jobs here and there, is a drop in the bucket.
For now though Trump will probably be able to surf the momentum of the Obama recovery, so he can get away with these PR moves of saving a couple of random factories in the short term. But pretty soon a bunch of companies will start threatening to move jobs overseas if they don't also get a sweetheart tax break deal and the whole thing could quickly become a PR nightmare.
balladofwindfishes
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Excuse me, but here in America, we call it the "Trump Recovery." All Obama was ever good at was killing jobs. The economy was only doing well due to the prospects of a Trump landslide.
Plasticine
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