Are we shook about tonight? I was so shook last time, for some reason I feel fine even w Kelly
Y2kev please, the real enemy is christie in all of this don't take it out on us stupid, youthful idealists.
Fox people got their memos saying that they should lay off trump. Don't worry.
Also
*tinfoil hat on*
GOP establishment has some super secret polling data telling them that they can mobilize demographic X by making it seem like they're bypassing democracy and if they turn around at the last minute and seem like humble good guys after a good fight the momentum will give them the GE.
*tinfoil off*
How do you even poll that? I think you're overestimating the GOP.
I mean you don't even need to go that far, just look at Obama v Hillary in 2008.
Not only did Obama lose Texas, Mass. and Nevada on Super Tuesday, he ends up losing Cali, NY, Florida, and Michigan to Hillary. And he STILL WINS. Hillary is actually outperforming Obama at this point and she's projected to win Michigan, Ohio, and Florida as well. At this point the math is really against Bernie. And I don't think being unrealistic about his chances helps him at all because it leads to complacency.
I keep hearing that it is going to get easier for Sanders. I present a fact based counterpoint.
LA: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/louisiana-democratic/
MI:http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/michigan-democratic/
Mississippi:http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/mississippi-democratic/
Florida: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/florida-democratic/
Illinois: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/illinois-democratic/
Nc: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/north-carolina-democratic/
Ohio: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/ohio-democratic/
I know there's data to suggest an ingrained voting pattern, based on experiences in formative years.by 2024 millennials will make up roughly half the electorate
Part of me still thinks this is all too perfect and Trump could screw it up. Either at the debate tonight or elsewhere...I just have this illogical fear it's all going to come crashing down for him.
We're truly on the verge of history. The short term implosion of a political party. I just can't believe it, even as it's happening.
Do Democratic primaries and caucuses have shitty voter ID laws?
I keep thinking that too. Trump will fuck it up at some point. He has been just far too lucky this long. And let's not forget the guy is an idiot. Beyond stupid. And his campaign is ran by d-rate rejects.Part of me still thinks this is all too perfect and Trump could screw it up. Either at the debate tonight or elsewhere...I just have this illogical fear it's all going to come crashing down for him.
We're truly on the verge of history. The short term implosion of a political party. I just can't believe it, even as it's happening.
How do you even poll that? I think you're overestimating the GOP.
I'm less shook than last time. I think I spent all my shook last week. Literally I cannot even imagine how this debate will go. Rubio coming out swinging will be hilarious considering his complete flop on Super Tuesday.
Everything is a disaster.
I like Bernie and I'm ok with his normal fans. Some people are just delusional and annoying and I hate wasting time. Time is money (which I have a lot of) so let's dispense with this notion that this cutesy primary is still on. Biden is the nominee.
That's what is remarkable about this. It's not like he is a blowhard with a strong campaign. He is a blowhard with a campaign ran by people who have no clue what doing.What's hilarious to me is that report that says his campaign has no clue about delegate math but it doesn't matter.
What's hilarious to me is that report that says his campaign has no clue about delegate math but it doesn't matter.
Lightweight reporter Megyn Kelly is really the only person who's managed to do anything to Trump.
Draft Megyn Kelly.
I know there's data to suggest an ingrained voting pattern, based on experiences in formative years.
But I don't know why people assume that views on particular issues won't change in 8 years time. People are self-interested as voters ultimately.
I imagine an 18 year old's priorities (or lack thereof) are markedly different than a 26 year old's. While the older end of Millennials will be in their mid 40s.
The data suggests heavily that liberals stay liberal and conservatives stay conservative (contrary to popular belief). Humans are gonna human and that means not being perfectly "rational"
So for people not deep in the Hillary camp what's the over/under on 100-post pages before someone in this thread claims Trump is a better person than Sanders ?
So for people not deep in the Hillary camp what's the over/under on 100-post pages before someone in this thread claims Trump is a better person than Sanders ?
Hillary is getting indicted. I heard it on morning Joe. Mika also sounded VERY CONCERNED
ANDREAMITCHELL
*runs out of room*
Well, for one thing Millennials are stupid and inconsistent in their views anyway.The data suggests heavily that liberals stay liberal and conservatives stay conservative (contrary to popular belief). Humans are gonna human and that means not being perfectly "rational"
That has already happened. We had the "at least Trump is honest unlike that scoundrel Sanders" thing a while back.
So for people not deep in the Hillary camp what's the over/under on 100-post pages before someone in this thread claims Trump is a better person than Sanders ?
Exactly. It's so ridiculous when Bernie supporters are mocked for defending Trump, when Trump is a lot more similar to Bernie than Hillary is in many ways.
Honesty:
- Bernie is honest and believes in his convictions, even if politically unpopular
- Trump is honest and believes in his convictions, even if politically unpopular
- Hillary is dishonest and take positions when politically expedient
Outsider:
- Bernie has not been part of either establishment party for the past ~30 years and only recently started to caucus with Democrats
- Trump has not been part of either establishment party for the past ~30 years and only recently joined the Republican party
- Hillary has been a Democrat since her college days and is seen as a lifelong establishment Democrat
Funding:
- Bernie is not taking any PAC money and relies on small donations, does not cater to lobbyists
- Trump is not taking any PAC money and is self-funding, does not cater to lobbyists
- Hillary has been taking huge sums of PAC money, is friendly with Wall Street and big banks
Endorsements:
- Bernie has almost no endorsements, relying on strong polling in early states and caters to the people
- Trump has almost no endorsements, relying on strong polling in early states and caters to the people
- Hillary has an overwhelming number of endorsements, giving the appearance of a "coronation" which is off-putting to most
Ideology:
- Bernie proposes more extreme, radical ideas which represent real change and energizes the base, bringing out huge numbers and rallies
- Trump proposes more extreme, radical ideas which represent real change and energizes the base, bringing out huge numbers and rallies
- Hillary proposes middling, "me-too" compromises which excites no one
If you are a Bernie supporter, purely logically speaking, Trump is clearly the #2 choice if Bernie does not get win the primaries, with Hillary a distance 3rd.
Jeffrey Lord on CNN comparing Trump's establishment fight with Goldwater in 64.
Well, for one thing Millennials are stupid and inconsistent in their views anyway.
But the study, which I've already noted, is about voting patterns. Democrat, Republican.
I'm speaking to individual issues. Healthcare, taxes, trade, education policies, and so on and so forth. Some of which, I would imagine views will not change much.
Hasn't anyone of actual importance ever said the Democrats are in disarray?2016 Election
1) Jeb raises $150 mil, scares Romney out of the race, fails miserably.
2) Media and GOP elites spend a solid 5-6 months actively trying to make "the Rubio thing" happen. Fail miserably.
3) The front runner, a loudmouth buffoon with no political experience, was dismissed as irrelevant for 7 months.
4) Only credible opponent of said buffoon is hated by literally everyone.
5) Country realizes Drumpf is actually winning, and also that Drumpf is Hitler. Panic!
6) Rule changes designed to make the primary healthier for the party make Drumpf borderline unstoppable.
7) GOP realizes that because of their new rules and all the time they wasted on making "the Rubio thing" happen, they have a knife-edge scenario where they can actually stop Drumpf.
8) This involves actively destroying the party. Proceed anyway.
9) Recruit wise party elder Romney for shadow campaign against presumptive nominee. Profit.
Democrats in disarray, am I right?!
1 more day till I can vote against wacko bernie.
The fears are baseless. Only Trump can destroy Trump. He came close a few days ago with the KKK debacle. But only he has the power to kill his campaign, not Rubio, RNC or Romney.We're very, very close. Close enough to taste. I have the same fear. Things are escalating against Trump, from the party and the media. Even as Fox news seems to be rallying around him. I know, I know "this is the thing that finally ends Donald Trump's presidential campaign."
We may actually already be across the finish line and not quite realize it. Even if something finally does deflate Trump, he has enough of a passionate base, and his opposition is so fucked that he'd still wind up with a plurality.
If the GOP shadow campaign wins, we win. If the GOP shadow campaign fails, we win.
I think that's true, but I can't quite bring myself to believe this is real life.
We're very, veryWe may actually already be across the finish line and not quite realize it. Even if something finally does deflate Trump, he has enough of a passionate base, and his opposition is so fucked that he'd still wind up with a plurality.
If the GOP shadow campaign wins, we win. If the GOP shadow campaign fails, we win.
I think that's true, but I can't quite bring myself to believe this is real life.
Initially read this as "Goldeneye 64." Now THAT is a comparison I need to see.
I wonder how many people will really have the stomach to follow through with a brokered convention or 3rd party run knowing it would destroy the party. Talking about it in March is a lot different from actually doing it.Lindsey Graham has had some harsh words for Donald Trump, but that doesn’t mean he thinks a brokered convention would be fair to the Republican frontrunner.
In an interview with former Obama adviser David Axelrod on his podcast “The Axe Files,” Graham said a fractured nomination process also wouldn’t be good for the GOP.
“If he got two-thirds of what he needs, which I think he's well on his way to doing, for us to steal from him is not going to help the party," he said in the interview, which was recorded before Trump's Super Tuesday rout and Mitt Romney's fiery speech against the real estate mogul on Thursday.
But he was sure to add that he didn't think Trump’s candidacy will be good for the Republican party. “Our party is about to fall apart,” he warned.
“You can lose an election. We've lost an election before. But what I'm trying to do is focus on the day after we lose,” he said. “Can we rebuild this party? Can we create a form of conservatism that's enticing to young people and people of color? I think we can. And I think that's the only hope for the Republican Party and, quite frankly, one of the big hopes of this country."
I fucking Love trump and what he's doing to the GOP.
Has any other election been this insane in the past 30 years?
Lindsey Graham
I wonder how many people will really have the stomach to follow through with a brokered convention or 3rd party run knowing it would destroy the party. Talking about it in March is a lot different from actually doing it.
A brokered convention is the dumbest thing ever. Do they seriously think Trump wouldn't run independent? He would beat their chosen one.
Damn I think I jumped the gun on this wine. Bout to be turnt af for this debate.
I fucking Love trump and what he's doing to the GOP.
Has any other election been this insane in the past 30 years?
I have a low opinion of my own generational cohort. Because they're dumb.Aren't we all stupid? Sorry to misunderstand. I do think things will start changing faster and faster as the pace of crazy and weird and society changing technology (like the internet) picks up in the coming decades and then things will get really weird.
#FOMO #listicle #hashtagMillennial politics is simple, really. Young people support big government, unless it costs any more money. They're for smaller government, unless budget cuts scratch a program they've heard of. They'd like Washington to fix everything, just so long as it doesn't run anything.
...when Millennials start making serious dough. They start getting much more squeamish about giving it away.
You get the sense, reading the Reason Foundation and Pew studies, that a savvy pollster could trick a young person into supporting basically any economic policy in the world with the right combination of triggers.
Forty-two percent of Millennials think socialism is preferable to capitalism, but only 16 percent of Millennials could accurately define socialism.
I have a low opinion of my own generational cohort. Because they're dumb.
White I'm assuming?I mixed wine and vodka.
It was disgusting. I could only get two glasses down.
I mixed craft beer and cheap liquor. It was disgusting, but I'm fucked.I mixed wine and vodka.
It was disgusting. I could only get two glasses down.
White I'm assuming?
Wow that sounds disgusting.