TheAbsolution
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Yup, This is just like when Nevada voted a few days ago. Instant projections.
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User 463088
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Oh, god, this cowboy with the beard on MSNBC who supports Trump.
Oh god, yaaasss. Honey, give me your digits. Please. OMG.
Oh god, yaaasss. Honey, give me your digits. Please. OMG.
Yellowtail
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If you'd have told Hillary eight years ago that her competition in 2016 would be Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump...
Basileus777
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Sanders should blame all the SC white people for voting in last week's primary because of Trump.
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all the more reason to end this stupid tradition
And_Gignac
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It requires a special type of delusion to believe Clinton won't struggle against Trump. The evidence is there, so obvious to anyone actually watching what type of message the electorate is responding too.
She would be better off with any other candidate, specially Marco.
She would be better off with any other candidate, specially Marco.
shinra-bansho
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Why don't they ask in Democratic exit polls about the most important quality in a potential President: "Tells it like it is."
A racist one?
True, but there are a few bright spots:
1. Winning 2016 will allow the Dems to get the SCOTUS sorted for a generation and there is nothing the GOP can do if the Dems take the Senate.
2. If Trump is the nominee, I guarantee that Cruz will run again and still be as toxic in 2020 as he is now.
3. If Rubio loses this year he has no career for at least two years (and as someone else pointed out, there is a long line of actually qualified GOP candidates for FL gov in 2018 who won't enjoy Rubio jumping them). Thus, Rubio will have one, uneventful Senate term as his resume.
4. Demographics will keep shifting in the Dems favor and if Trump is that nominee, Dems can tie anyone who endorses him (hello Nikki Haley!) to him, ruining the GOP's chances with latinos in 2020.
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Because we don't want to hear how it is. We know how it is. It's shit.
Ziltoidia 9
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A dem hasn't won SC in 30 years. Really doubt they are going to win this fall in GE either.
Basileus777
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This should be turned against any Berniebro trying to blame black voters.
Officerrob
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I don't believe anyone thinks SC has a chance of going blue
User 463088
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Primaries should only count if they are in blue states, the rest should be straw polls
Yeah, I mean, it's this.
As far as I can tell, everybody saying that Trump will beat Hillary is basically just saying that a significant majority of white people in America are racist.
I don't think this is true*.
* Okay, I do think it's true, but not that they like KNOW they're racist. Not enough to explicitly go out and vote for the racist candidate.
shinra-bansho
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She lost two of these groups in other states. I'm assuming they break for her this time.
But it's amazing how different the perception of her is in SC and particularly among AA voters there.
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Exit polls:
AA 61%
White 35%
Latino 2%
AA 61%
White 35%
Latino 2%
QuiteWhittle
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There is not a single data point that suggests Clinton will have a harder time against Trump over any other GOP candidate left in the field.
Aaron Strife
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Nah, that only reinforces the electoral college.
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I know you're kidding, but I've seen Bernie supporters use this non-ironically.
And_Gignac
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Anti-establishment anger. I don't think many of Trump supporters are with him *just* because they specially dislike Mexico and immigrants. it is myopic to believe that's what pushes his support (or Sanders support, which is similar but with compassionate, from the left solutions).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhaXcBcpRxw
Rewatching this interview.
The Segment about Flint just made me notice something I didn't before. Hillary, during Benghazi hearings, during tough questions, hecklers, emails etc. she's always stone cold, refusing to react, controls her emotions...
But literally the MOMENT Rachel mentioned Flint by name, she had a reaction of disgust, and to me it was genuine.
That says a lot, to me personally.
Rewatching this interview.
The Segment about Flint just made me notice something I didn't before. Hillary, during Benghazi hearings, during tough questions, hecklers, emails etc. she's always stone cold, refusing to react, controls her emotions...
But literally the MOMENT Rachel mentioned Flint by name, she had a reaction of disgust, and to me it was genuine.
That says a lot, to me personally.
The perception is like that because of how AA voters are the majority.
Poll after poll shows them as the one group that overwhelmingly backs her on issues like most trustworthy.
Ziltoidia 9
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Yes, but it wouldn't matter if Sanders would lose SC in a GE if HRC is going to also.
Didn't say that. Tonight's is a party primary and SC gets a chance to pick who they want as the nominee, each state in the primaries should get a chance to have delegates sent to the convenience for their party.
That's not really the point, though. Anybody who supports Trump is saying, pretty explicitly, "I don't think being an explicit racist is nearly as big a deal as X policy thing."
There are a lot of those people in the GOP base, but I just don't believe there are that many of those people in America.
Winning 40% of 35% is different than winning 51% of 100%.
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Rachel trying to make this entire contest a tie.
Come on Rachel. Don't do this.
Come on Rachel. Don't do this.
Gotta keep people tuned in somehow
User 463088
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Still. I expect better from her.
Is there a chat yet? I don't want to miss it if there is.
nocturnalis
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Who do like better: McGreevy, Whitman, or Christie?
This is Peak SNL Hillary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jh2n5ki0KE
User 463088
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Chris Matthews has just argued that essentially the only states that matter in this contest are Massachusetts and states that, interestingly, Bernie has the best chance.
Come the fuck on.
Come the fuck on.
No one is suggesting either would win SC in the general, so I don't know how to read your comment, other than you don't think SC should count (or count less).
Ziltoidia 9
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Interesting that they are saying that it doesn't end tonight and are looking at Ohio, Mass, Florida
shinra-bansho
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Setting aside the distinctly racist, misogynistic, bigoted subset of Trump's supporters; the rest of his support comes from people who are fine with someone openly racist and bigoted as their President, and it gets him to about 30-40% of the GOP electorate.
He's anathema to anyone who couldn't support that.
Meanwhile, I think "anti-establishment" sentiment on the left is grossly overstated.
Not yet, I missed last time myself and it made me sad.
TV pundits are boring unless they're Carville.
Ziltoidia 9
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Someone mentioned that Sanders would lose by 20% in SC, to bash on him. It doesn't matter how much he would lose by because the state is going to go red, especially in this year.
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