FloydtheFathead
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Me too Rob.
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Rubio won't win much outside of the Miami and Orlando areas. Rural Florida will come out for Trump in droves.
We can wrap up this primary season by Tuesday.
Basileus777
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I have shares on Bernie winning Maine so he better stay until then.
Yellowtail
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Looks like Arkansas really is dead to the Clintons this time round.
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I'm waiting for Tuesday, personally.
LOL Rubio gonna celebrate that big third place position
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It might have been a cable ad buy, because I got one here for Bernie too. It's the first Bernie ad I've seen all year. I saw a few Hillary ones thus far.
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well you dont need salt on tuesday because you will be in the hospital before the nights over.
This is something I've argued with the Rubio people as well... Rubio may take 2nd place in popular vote from Cruz but Cruz will still lead in delegates due to Texas. Establishment am cry.
Which is interesting because Wang has Rubio at 200 delegates behind instead of 100 like the analyses saying he still has a chance.
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White voters want Obama's policies to continue 43%. 39% want more liberal policies. 13% want them to be more conservative.
Nina Turner already saying that SC was a lost cause from the beginning.
Nina Turner already saying that SC was a lost cause from the beginning.
Basileus777
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It's mostly because those analyses don't take into account the actual rules for awarding delegates.
Officerrob
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On MSNBC? What state are you in?
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Ya, I was watching MSNBC. And I'm in Ohio.
I'm good with that. I guess I'm not as excited because for me, I don't really care as between Hillary and Bernie, would be more than happy with both.
Officerrob
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Because it's not extremely white?
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Back in from errands. Dog walked, dessert retrieved, alcohol chilling. Miiighty fine exit polls.
And I'll plug Sam Wang again for stats this cycle: http://election.princeton.edu/
He's been solid thus far.
And I'll plug Sam Wang again for stats this cycle: http://election.princeton.edu/
He's been solid thus far.
Officerrob
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Kinda surprised a Bernie rep is even in South Carolina at this point
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In coded language, yes. She did the "SC has a long history with Clinton" thing. But, ya, she was basically saying it was a racial issue.
If Bernie wanted to win decently among whites in SC, I would think he'd want more whites to want more liberal policies. Only 7% of AA voters want more liberal policies, which I think Hillary successfully tied to the idea of a repudiation of Obama's legacy.
Sam Wang is always solid.
Basileus777
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2014 wasn't a good year for his predictions. But he's been good this cycle and he's one of the few people actually doing good work with delegate math.
Wang is always solid and firm in his predictions.
shinra-bansho
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So, excuse the non-sequitur again, but I guess I'll note that, I think both Clinton and Sanders have mixed pasts on LGBT issues.
On the issue of same sex marriage, Sanders changed his stance for the better earlier, and for some people, however they may identify, that may be an entirely valid reasoning for voting for him.
For others, straight, gay, cis, trans it may not be sufficient.
One may look at his activities as Mayor of Burlington or hers as Secretary of State or any other role they've held on issues of importance. That's anyone's personal prerogative. They've both done good things, and less than good things. They'll both do good things, and probably also do less than good things.
Nowhere have I expressed that you can't be simultaneously affected by LGBT issues and support Sanders.
In a thread that wasn't even about gay marriage from memory, the timing of Clinton's change in position was brought up as a wedge issue to show she was a flip-flopper. I was curious whether those arguing about it at length were actually affected by that change in position.
I'm not sure how exactly that was taken as a slight, but it wasn't intended as one. I'm not sure why a response wasn't directed directly at me, I'm normally pretty open to discussion.
Back to scheduled broadcasting.
On the issue of same sex marriage, Sanders changed his stance for the better earlier, and for some people, however they may identify, that may be an entirely valid reasoning for voting for him.
For others, straight, gay, cis, trans it may not be sufficient.
One may look at his activities as Mayor of Burlington or hers as Secretary of State or any other role they've held on issues of importance. That's anyone's personal prerogative. They've both done good things, and less than good things. They'll both do good things, and probably also do less than good things.
Nowhere have I expressed that you can't be simultaneously affected by LGBT issues and support Sanders.
In a thread that wasn't even about gay marriage from memory, the timing of Clinton's change in position was brought up as a wedge issue to show she was a flip-flopper. I was curious whether those arguing about it at length were actually affected by that change in position.
I'm not sure how exactly that was taken as a slight, but it wasn't intended as one. I'm not sure why a response wasn't directed directly at me, I'm normally pretty open to discussion.
Back to scheduled broadcasting.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Hillary has a -13 approval rating among overall Americans and will have the easiest presidential victory (counting both primary and general ease) of any non-incumbent since... ever? Even FDR struggled through the primary.
eBay Huckster
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in fairness, 2014 wasn't a good year for basically anyone
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They can't just drop SC completely, that would get him called out on. Especially will how hard Hillary stayed in NH even when down.
Basileus777
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1988. Unless you're counting Bush as an incumbent.
I'll said it before, but Hillary is winning the GE in the biggest landslide since Reagan's inauguration. It's just lopsided as hell at this point.
Midterms are always a shitshow for statisticians due to the lack of data for each race.
Officerrob
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Bernie has spent like 5 minutes there this week
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Hmm, Bush trailed for a bit. Don't think Hillary will ever trail Trump.
Yup. Only thing I"m worried about is 2020.
Dropping his campaign staff is worse then him Campaigning elsewhere. Thats asking for a 70-80% spread of complete domination.
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