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[digdug2k]

I agree. Republicans still dominate state and local election, and own congress for the moment, and had the supreme court until recently. Takes a long time for folks to accept reality if indeed they are done nationally.

I've always found it funny that the party that's so mad at Muslims for not calling and denouncing extremists has so much trouble doing the same thing for extremists in its own party.

But they've elected too many racists bigots (Trump is far from their first) to national office to change any time soon. Heck, every time they've even remotely tried to change, the constituents have revolted and voted in someone even further left. The best hope they have is to abandon ship and create a third party at this point.

 

[Atlagev]

Boehner:

Deirdre Walsh ✔ ‎@deirdrewalshcnn
Boehner backs Trump, says "Anybody who doesn't think Donald Trump can win, just watch"

Phil Mattingly ✔ ‎@Phil_Mattingly
Boehner: "I did my best to bring our party together, but I don't know what the knuckleheads want. Still to this day I don't know."

Rebecca Ballhaus ✔ ‎@rebeccaballhaus
Boehner: “Shutting down the government to get rid of Obamacare might have been about the dumbest thing I ever saw.”

I love I-don't-give-a-fuck Boehner.

 

[Holmes]

Another Georgia poll. Clinton behind by 2%, 43 - 45.

https://cmgajcpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/ga20bg2056220may20freq.pdf

 

[Box of Kittens]

Boehner



And:

You know things are bad for the GOP when even Rove isn't confidently predicting a victory.

 

[kess]

I love I-don't-give-a-fuck Boehner.

 

[User 463088]

Another Georgia poll. Clinton behind by 2%, 43 - 45.

https://cmgajcpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/ga20bg2056220may20freq.pdf

Haha. Spend money in GA GOP. PLEASE. Is also love queen to win at least one southern state on principle.

 

[Holmes]

Haha. Spend money in GA GOP. PLEASE. Is also love queen to win at least one southern state on principle.

She'll win MD, VA, FL and mst likely NC with an outside chance at GA.

 

[Fox318]

I want to hear Boehner's opinion of the freedom caucus.

 

[pigeon]

ahm.... legacy?

democrats do seem fond of pointing out clinton's budget surplus like it meant something, after all.

Hm. This weird duality can also be attributed to the way he handled federal expenditure. Dude tries hard to decrease the deficit because.... why, exactly?

He actually wrote about cutting social security to eliminate the deficit in his fucking book, so as far as I can tell Obama just really truly believes that the deficit is bad and SS is unsustainable. One of the few places where I'm actually glad the GOP made it impossible for Obama to do something.

I mean, I guess he's a constitutional law professor and a community organizer so you can't expect him to be good at macroeconomics too. Everybody has to be bad at something!

 

[Bowdz]

I love I-don't-give-a-fuck Boehner.

The real I-don't-give-a-fuck Boehner would have brought up the immigration reform bill for a vote in the house and force the GOP to modernize.

 

[B-Dubs]

I want to hear Boehner's opinion of the freedom caucus.

He already gave it:

I don't know what the knuckleheads want. Still to this day I don't know.

 

[whyamihere]

Chances that Glenn Greenwald reports on this poll?

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/274920-poll-clinton-leads-trump-in-missouri

Hillary Clinton holds a slim lead over Donald Trump in their presidential race in Missouri based on a new poll published Friday, according to The Kansas City Star.

Clinton leads Trump 42 to 40 percent in the DFM Research of Minnesota poll conducted on behalf of the United Transportation Union. The lead is within the poll's 3.8 percent margin of error.

 

[The Technomancer]

Here is a great video where Sam Seder from the majority report and Jimmy Dore of TYT go at it over "Bernie or bust".

Watch all 4 parts:
https://youtu.be/kshwtCuNewU

Spoiler

Jimmy looks stupid and unprepared when Sam calmly calls him out on his incorrect historical references and straight up revisionist nonsense. Then Sam kicks his teeth in by simply playing out his argument and seeing that it does nothing to further the progressive agenda. As a Sam Seder fan that can't stand Jimmy on TYT this debate was cathartic

Hmmmm...

my distaste for YouTube debates is butting up against my desire to watch Jimmy get taken down a peg

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Chances that Glenn Greenwald reports on this poll?

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/274920-poll-clinton-leads-trump-in-missouri

In Missouri? Is Trump going to win states other than Indiana and West Virginia?

 

[Holmes]

In Missouri? Is Trump going to win states other than Indiana and West Virginia?

Oklahoma.

 

[User 463088]

She'll win MD, VA, FL and mst likely NC with an outside chance at GA.

Florida is not readily southern though
The more south you get in Florida the more North you end up... Until you get to Miami then.. Not as much. I wanted her to win a traditional southern GOP state just for the salt.

 

[pigeon]

In Missouri? Is Trump going to win states other than Indiana and West Virginia?

He'll probably win Utah, but it might be lean R if Trump talks about Mormons any more.

 

[Macho Madness]

Chances that Glenn Greenwald reports on this poll?

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/274920-poll-clinton-leads-trump-in-missouri

April 1st.

Also, is it Missouri or Minnesota?

 

[Holmes]

Florida is not readily southern though
The more south you get in Florida the more North you end up... Until you get to Miami then.. Not as much. I wanted her to win a traditional southern GOP state just for the salt.

I hear what you're saying, but just because the state is not culturally Southern, doesn't mean that it's not geographically Southern.

 

[Cesare Borgia]

You know things are bad for the GOP when even Rove isn't confidently predicting a victory.

Seems like more a reflection on Rove not being in Trump's circle. Trump has attacked him quite a bit over the years

 

[whyamihere]

April 1st.

Also, is it Missouri or Minnesota?

Missouri.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Chances that Glenn Greenwald reports on this poll?

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/274920-poll-clinton-leads-trump-in-missouri

Yo why do people keep posting these old ass polls?

Not you but news sites do this shit a lot.

 

[FloydtheFathead]

Chances that Glenn Greenwald reports on this poll?

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/274920-poll-clinton-leads-trump-in-missouri

Jeez.. God I wish.

He'll probably win Utah, but it might be lean R if Trump talks about Mormons any more.

Mittens needs to keep shitting on Trump then?

 

[Macho Madness]

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Lauren Fox
@FoxReports
Asked Rubio if he would reconsider Senate bid. "I'm not focused on that." I note he has till June. He walks away, turns and says "June 24"

 

[Wiz]

Another Georgia poll. Clinton behind by 2%, 43 - 45.

https://cmgajcpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/ga20bg2056220may20freq.pdf

Only a matter of time before Georgia becomes a true battleground state. IIRC, Obama didn't lose by a typical big margin

 

[B-Dubs]

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Oh yea, he's gonna run.

 

[whyamihere]

More from that Missouri poll:

▪ Sen. Roy Blunt, a Republican, leads Secretary of State Jason Kander, a Democrat, 49 percent to 35 percent. (UPDATE: A separate but contemporaneous poll, taken by Remington Research for Missouri Scout, has it Blunt 44 percent, Kander 37 percent.)

▪ Kander is unknown in the state. Forty percent of those surveyed have never heard of him, compared with five percent who’ve never heard of Blunt.

▪ Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump, 42 percent to 40 percent.

▪ Chris Koster, the Democrat, is ahead of all four Republican candidates for governor. Peter Kinder is close; the rest lose by double-digits.

▪ Catherine Hanaway also lacks name ID in the GOP governor’s race. Forty-one percent of respondents have never heard of her.

▪ Trump has the highest unfavorable rating of any of the 11 politicians in the survey: 63 percent unfavorable. Fifty-six percent have unfavorable views of Barack Obama.

▪ Sen. Claire McCaskill has the highest favorable rating, at 49 percent.

The margin of error is plus or minus 3.8 percentage points with a 95 percent confidence level.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article69418112.html#storylink=cpy

Very surprised/happy about how high McCaskill's favorables are. Maybe she can survive the purge of 2018 after we lose Donnelly/Heitkamp/others.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

I doubt he can win the Primary. Where are his funds?

More from that Missouri poll:



Very surprised/happy about how high McCaskill's favorables are. Maybe she can survive the purge of 2018 after we lose Donnelly/Heitkamp/others.

Fire off the ivy signal!

 

[Macho Madness]

It's an old poll that's barely worth discussion at this point.

 

[Cesare Borgia]

Clinton won't win Missouri. If there's a state where white resentment will hurt her in a year she otherwise may have been able to win, it's that state. But as with Georgia and Arizona it could be another state where she forced Trump to waste resources.

 

[HUELEN10]

I've be thinking a lot today. Voting for a candidate doesn't make you a hero or a villain, voting for a candidate doesn't make you anything. When you vote, it should be for a reason. I believe the reason to vote is that you care and understand enough about a particular issue, the American thing to do as a good citizen of our great republic is to be a part of the process, directly or indirectly, and have your say. I don't for color, or personality, or gender, or if I could have a beer with the person, I vote on things that matter to me.

None of this sounds unreasonable, but after thinking some more, it seems that another thing can be important to: does Candidate X deserve my vote?

I don't think that's something I have considered before, and I see that perhaps I should. Is his an important question to you guys?

 

[Fenderputty]

And just like that they fall in line to support a racist, xenophobic, small-handed prick.

I wouldn't exactly call that an endorsement.

I want to hear Boehner's opinion of the freedom caucus.

His comments about shutting down the government should be enough.

: does Candidate X deserve my vote?

I don't think that's something I have considered before, and I see that perhaps I should. Is his an important question to you guys?

That's just one aspect of voting. In a first past the post voting system (specifically with our electoral college), the degree to which it matters will vary by election and location. It should be more important for local elections and the like.

 

[whyamihere]

It's an old poll that's barely worth discussion at this point.

Bah, sorry -- Benchmark just posted it.

 

[PBY]

 

[Plinko]

Boehner



And:

I knew they'd all fall in line behind Trump. That was obvious, but I'm curious to know if they would have done this as quickly with Cruz. I'm not so sure.

 

[Macho Madness]

Seems like more a reflection on Rove not being in Trump's circle. Trump has attacked him quite a bit over the years

Yep: http://bigstory.ap.org/773211d1ffba41c5a45574db0b093ae0

 

[Aaron Strife]

More from that Missouri poll:



Very surprised/happy about how high McCaskill's favorables are. Maybe she can survive the purge of 2018 after we lose Donnelly/Heitkamp/others.

I could see a couple of the red state senators holding on.

In order of likelihood, I guess it would be something like Manchin > Tester > McCaskill > Heitkamp > Donnelly. But I wouldn't peg any of them as any worse than a Toss-up (but wouldn't call any of them Lean D or better, either).

But then again, things could change. IIRC McCaskill had high approval ratings before 2012 - until 2012, when she was up for re-election and suddenly people turned on her.

 

[ampere]

Another Georgia poll. Clinton behind by 2%, 43 - 45.

https://cmgajcpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/ga20bg2056220may20freq.pdf

Georgia... on my mind!

We can do this T_T we can do it!!

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

I've be thinking a lot today. Voting for a candidate doesn't make you a hero or a villain, voting for a candidate doesn't make you anything. When you vote, it should be for a reason. I believe the reason to vote is that you care and understand enough about a particular issue, the American thing to do as a good citizen of our great republic is to be a part of the process, directly or indirectly, and have your say. I don't for color, or personality, or gender, or if I could have a beer with the person, I vote on things that matter to me.

None of this sounds unreasonable, but after thinking some more, it seems that another thing can be important to: does Candidate X deserve my vote?

I don't think that's something I have considered before, and I see that perhaps I should. Is his an important question to you guys?

I don't know what the difference is between "does X deserve my vote" and "do I think X is the best choice for this office". I don't know what you mean by "deserve my vote".

 

[FnordChan]

In case anyone's curious, the source for this quotes is an appearance by Stewart on the podcast The Axe Files; here's his comments about Clinton and, as an extra bonus, here's four times as much commentary from Stewart about Trump. You can watch the whole interview here.

FnordChan

 

[gcubed]

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Meh, she doesn't do that great in big sweeping settings but in a small setting she is very human.

 

[whyamihere]

I could see a couple of the red state senators holding on.

In order of likelihood, I guess it would be something like Manchin > Tester > McCaskill > Heitkamp > Donnelly. But I wouldn't peg any of them as any worse than a Toss-up (but wouldn't call any of them Lean D or better, either).

But then again, things could change. IIRC McCaskill had high approval ratings before 2012 - until 2012, when she was up for re-election and suddenly people turned on her.

I agree there. Poor Heikamp and Donnelly, even though Donnelly is pro-life.

 

[B-Dubs]

Meh, she doesn't do that great in big sweeping settings but in a small setting she is very human.

According to the reporters who have covered her at State and the current campaign, it's like they're dealing with a different person now. The woman just doesn't campaign well and does better when she's got an actual job to do.

 

[ampere]

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She's not super charismatic, that's it John.

Does he really claim she doesn't care about civil rights advocacy? She seems passionate and energized when talking about women's rights, LGBT rights and minority rights.

 

[johnsmith]

Dan Quayle speaking against Trump tomorrow.

So it's come to this.

So this turned out to be the complete opposite. What happened?

 

[Ziltoidia 9]

andrew napolitano wrote an opinion peice trying to say that the russians have 20k emails that they are debating whether they should release them/talk about them.

He didn't give any sources or proof.

This is why I hate much of the right. While I don't LOVE Hillary, its just bullshit like this that turns me off from them. I mean if there is proof, release it.If not, stop with the click bait.

 

[Y2Kev]

I don't think that's particularly insightful commentary. It's Joe Scarborough tier. I hope Jon thinks things other than "she's awkward" or "she panders a lot" because that's in essence what he said.

 

[lenovox1]

Id give up 30 years of dominance at the presidential level for 8-10 years of dominance in Congress and president


Edit... Warren would wasted as VP and I really hope Clinton wouldn't do that.

Not for him, considering how conservative he is. And people would likely be clamoring for a woman on the ticket given the event that Sec. Clinton lost.

For Clinton, it still makes no sense.

 

[Ophelion]

She's not super charismatic, that's it John.

Does he really claim she doesn't care about civil rights advocacy? She seems passionate and energized when talking about women's rights, LGBT rights and minority rights.

Despite being hyper-liberal as an adult and far, far more generous with my time, compassion and money than many of my peers in college, my somewhat flat affect convinced many people I was cold, cruel...I believe one friend (in jest, but still) used the world "evil" once. I have always been mystified as to what I'm doing that convinces people of this.

At the risk of running into a cliché, I think at least in part it has to do with me not smiling enough and generally being disinterested in kissing people's asses. Especially if they expect me to.

So, y'know. Hillary's whole deal sounds familiar to me.

 

[Adaren]

I don't know what the difference is between "does X deserve my vote" and "do I think X is the best choice for this office". I don't know what you mean by "deserve my vote".

This is my philosophy as well. I'm not voting for Candidate X so that he or she can enjoy all of the luxuries of the Oval Office. I'm voting for them because they would have the most positive impact on my life / the lives of those around me / the country / the world.

The question is less "Do they deserve it?" and more "Who leads to the best possible outcome for me?"