Tarkus
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Try $499-$800 for a new Glock in various models.
I agree though, something must be done.
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I agree though, something must be done.
neurosisxeno
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I've seen them go for as little as $350 before, but that's the average range to be certain.
Bam Bam Baklava
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In some ways, I feel bad for John McCain, he was insulted by Trump and then the guy has the balls to claim we should bring back torture when he dodged the draft while McCain was actually being tortured. Then you have to imagine that he agrees way more with Clinton on foreign policy than Trump but he needs his voters to win. He could pull an Arlen Specter but then the left would lose their minds.
I imagine this would be the kind of dilemma Dems would have been in had LaRouche won the nomination one of those years.
I imagine this would be the kind of dilemma Dems would have been in had LaRouche won the nomination one of those years.
Kite
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Na, this is why AR15s are popular. They look like actual military hardware and are very customizable (you can add a ton of frivolous attachments) so civilians can pretend like they are soldiers. As a civilian weapon ARs are gimped, they can't do 3 round burst or automatic fire like actual M4/M16s. They can only do semi-automatic fire like any hunting rifle.
I think of em like some teenager's Toyota Camry with racing stickers, a loud spoiler and tacked on wings.. people who don't know cars might think they're impressive but they're really not.
I don't. If he had any integrity at all he should have refused to back Trump. If he loses he loses. Not like he's not old enough and rich enough to retire anyway. After Hillary winning nothing would make me happier than to see McCain lose.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Does that mean Romney and Kristol should be commended? Though they have no skin in the game.
Aaron Strife
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There was like a week of hype about that election due to Pressler splitting the GOP vote.
In the end the GOP guy won with over 50% of the vote and Pressler just split Weiland's vote anyway
(cries)
TheLostBigBoss
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Na, this is why AR15s are popular. They look like actual military hardware and are very customizable (you can add a ton of frivolous attachments) so civilians can pretend like they are soldiers. As a civilian weapon ARs are gimped, they can't do 3 round burst or automatic fire like actual M4/M16s. They can only do semi-automatic fire like any hunting rifle.
I think of em like some teenager's Toyota Camry with racing stickers, a loud spoiler and tacked on wings.. people who don't know cars might think they're impressive but they're really not.
yea because hunting rifles can easily fit 60 round mags and can be modified to shoot at an incredibly increased fire rate
There are plenty of products on the market that increase the fire rate of the AR-15 to near automatic speeds, and it's perfectly legal.
It's extremely disingenuous to hand wave away the AR15 because it's called a civilian model when it's so easy to ramp up how deadly it can be.
plagiarize
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AR-15s were designed for the military.
Na, this is why AR15s are popular. They look like actual military hardware and are very customizable (you can add a ton of frivolous attachments) so civilians can pretend like they are soldiers. As a civilian weapon ARs are gimped, they can't do 3 round burst or automatic fire like actual M4/M16s. They can only do semi-automatic fire like any hunting rifle.
I think of em like some teenager's Toyota Camry with racing stickers, a loud spoiler and tacked on wings.. people who don't know cars might think they're impressive but they're really not.
For shooting people. Not for all those military hunting expiditions. Plus I'm not sure why your telling me why law abiding citizems buy them, I only speculated on why mass murderors have been choosing them.
Poodlestrike
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Was working all day, so couldn't really post, talk, or read about this, but...
FUCK not politicizing this. Fuck it fuck it fuck it fuck it. I get respect for the dead, respect for the wounded, but FUCK not using every goddamn tool in the goddamn toolchest to stop this shit from happening! Emotional manipulation, fear, all of it should be fair game. People are fucking dying! I say we tie national defense to gun control, run around screaming about TERRORISM and paint every single goddamn NRA Republican as weak on defense, anti-American cowards.
God, I'm just PISSED!
FUCK not politicizing this. Fuck it fuck it fuck it fuck it. I get respect for the dead, respect for the wounded, but FUCK not using every goddamn tool in the goddamn toolchest to stop this shit from happening! Emotional manipulation, fear, all of it should be fair game. People are fucking dying! I say we tie national defense to gun control, run around screaming about TERRORISM and paint every single goddamn NRA Republican as weak on defense, anti-American cowards.
God, I'm just PISSED!
Aaron Strife
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If McCain wanted to switch parties after the election I'd be all for that.
Sure he'd be a huge pain in the ass but it never hurts to pad the caucus.
Sure he'd be a huge pain in the ass but it never hurts to pad the caucus.
plagiarize
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I couldn't agree more.
You know what, the same people who are saying "don't politicize it" are people who were politicizing trans people in their bathrooms.
So they're bullshitters is what I'm saying.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Ryan's gone well beyond political yoga. The man is a straight political contortionist, or trying to be one.
Ignatz Mouse
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I think I would love to hang out with Francois Mouly and Art Spiegelman.
Na, this is why AR15s are popular. They look like actual military hardware and are very customizable (you can add a ton of frivolous attachments) so civilians can pretend like they are soldiers. As a civilian weapon ARs are gimped, they can't do 3 round burst or automatic fire like actual M4/M16s. They can only do semi-automatic fire like any hunting rifle.
I think of em like some teenager's Toyota Camry with racing stickers, a loud spoiler and tacked on wings.. people who don't know cars might think they're impressive but they're really not.
Kind of irrelevant suggesting where an AR-15 sits in the pecking order or what it is "supposed" to be used for when it has just been proven effective at being able to kill or injure 100 people within a matter of minutes. Being "gimped" in relation to other military hardware doesn't seem to be hurting it much in this instance.
Is there actually any other consumer product available on the market, with as little regulation, that could actually be leveraged to the same effect as this shooting? I can't think of one offhand. Even driving a big truck through a crowd of people wouldn't cause as much damage (and you'd need a commercial license to drive one in the first place and a truck is exponentially more expensive).
ItWasMeantToBe19
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/orlando-shooters-wife-sick-person/story?id=39805225
This guy sounds like a caricature of the worst person in the world.
This guy sounds like a caricature of the worst person in the world.
Well, if you filled the truck up with fertilizer first you could have a significant impact.
But in terms of utility to death-dealing effectiveness, guns are certainly at the top of the chart.
Knuckle Sandwich
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I spent the entire day doing dad stuff away from the tv, telephone or internet. What a horrific thing to log on and see. Just fucking awful. I am so scared about my kids growing up in this world. :-( RIP. Love to the victims and their families.
Get as much shit done as possible in 2 years, chances are we'd lose the midterms regardless.
Like the ACA.
Didn't you learn anything though? It's not how long you have the majority, it's what you do with it.
metalslimer
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The thing is a large majority of the country at the very least wanted more background checks. We can't even get things through that the American people want. Another huge problem is that the gun problem is so bad it would be a decade before meaningful gun legislation had a signifcant impact because of the proliferation of guns currently. By the time things started getting better the republican congress would just repeal it
Aren't toxic fertilizers regulated in the US? Not to mention you still have the cost and portability issues.
In terms of the package of cost, portability, access, and killing effectiveness nothing comes close that I can think of.
Either people are lieing to posters about supporting gun control, its not a priority they consider worth throwing their congressmen out for or the districts that R's control don't want it.
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Yep there is a reason our soldiers are equipped with guns and not fertilizer trucks, pipe bombs, pilot licenses and cars as weapons.
I mean, we actually give our soldiers plenty of land and air vehicles and ordnance as well as guns.
The difference is mostly that you can't get an unmanned assault vehicle at Wal-Mart, but you can get guns approximately as good as the ones our military uses.
Lacking burst mode and/or full auto doesn't make it gimped. In fact those firing mods are barely useful in combat situations.
Na, this is why AR15s are popular. They look like actual military hardware and are very customizable (you can add a ton of frivolous attachments) so civilians can pretend like they are soldiers. As a civilian weapon ARs are gimped, they can't do 3 round burst or automatic fire like actual M4/M16s. They can only do semi-automatic fire like any hunting rifle.
I think of em like some teenager's Toyota Camry with racing stickers, a loud spoiler and tacked on wings.. people who don't know cars might think they're impressive but they're really not.
In terms of killing potential, those weapons are pretty much the same, you think of them wrong.
I like that New Yorker cover. Sums up how tenacious Hillary is and how she just keeps getting back up
Preach. This is a rational response to the situation.
Ah. That is much less surprising then. He's almost only a former Republican in the sense that Warren is a former Republican
Preach. This is a rational response to the situation.
Ah. That is much less surprising then. He's almost only a former Republican in the sense that Warren is a former Republican
Spoiled Milk
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The establishment never changed the title.
theprodigy
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Still have 18k+ posts to change it.
Spoiled Milk
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I dare these suckas not to.
Based on the title, I was having deja vu, thinking this article was from last week. But nope, this is news from Bernie's Sunday gathering with his staff and major supporters:
New York Times: Bernie Sanders Refuses to Concede Nomination to Hillary Clinton
New York Times: Bernie Sanders Refuses to Concede Nomination to Hillary Clinton
Retromelon
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It took every fiber of my being to resist going with |OT7| Hillary is lame, and if that title would have lasted more than 5 minutes it would have been worth it
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User 463088
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Are you fucking kidding me right now?
What happened to landing the plane?
Spoiled Milk
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Not sardonic enough. We should have gone with a Radiohead throwback: "Hail to the Thief"
Well he's not talking about trying to win the nomination much it seems, but he is so goddamn stubborn, it's like he wants to be stuck in that place between campaigning and conceding indefinitely.
VendettaRed07
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Just wait till he talks with Hillary personally on tuesday
Spoiled Milk
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Woody Allen is writing, directing, and starring in a movie inspired by Senator Bernie Sanders that focuses on living in that self flagellatory political hellscape where you can say you are doing something revolutionary but you have kept everyone's expectations (including your own) low enough to avoid the responsibility of fulfilling quixotic promises, all in a desperate ruse to trick college students into paying off your gambling debts. He's calling it "Beefshank Redemption".
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-campaign_us_575d638be4b0e39a28add33c
Bernie, she's not going to agree to all of that 100%, you petulant child.
User 463088
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So, basically, we have to sufficiently kiss his ass. Ridiculous.
That's a fucking disaster. She can't do that. He's too far left.
gutter_trash
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IMO, I think Hillary should play the game and accept part of Bernie's Anti-Wall Street crap to shut him up for the campaign but then toss it in the trash after inauguration.
Focus on more important issues IMO once in the oval office
Focus on more important issues IMO once in the oval office
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