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For some, it's hatred of Hillary above all else. Actual support for other candidates (Sanders) ranks a distant second to the first premise, "never Hillary".
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For some, it's hatred of Hillary above all else. Actual support for other candidates (Sanders) ranks a distant second to the first premise, "never Hillary".
nature boy
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Wall isn't really a wall:
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Avon Barksdale
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The Daily Show did a bit on this years ago about Republicans saying Obama should be more like Bill Clinton.
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/0p8epr/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-republicans-miss-bill-clinton
Did not realize this. Abe does seem extremely regressive, although there are a lot of weird regressive things about Japan.
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I'm fairly confident that as long as democrats put up a somewhat decent person as a candidate, a republican is going to have a really, really hard time winning the presidency in the near future.
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New Morning Consult National Poll
100% post FBI Gate
Hillary 42
Trump 41
(They're each plus one)
In a three way race
Hillary 39
Trump 37
Johnson 12
Hillary gained a point, as did Johnson. Trump stayed the same.
Also, I once stayed at a Knights Inn in Columbus, Indiana. I got doughnuts from a gas station shaped like giant feet.
100% post FBI Gate
Hillary 42
Trump 41
(They're each plus one)
In a three way race
Hillary 39
Trump 37
Johnson 12
Hillary gained a point, as did Johnson. Trump stayed the same.
Also, I once stayed at a Knights Inn in Columbus, Indiana. I got doughnuts from a gas station shaped like giant feet.
So here's a full-length sitdown with Ezra Klein and Hillary:
http://www.vox.com/a/hillary-clinton-interview
* Hillary defends welfare reform:
Basically, she expected that the federal government would transition to supporting the working poor and states would take responsibility for the nonworking poor. Clearly this didn't happen.
* Hillary explicitly calls for raising taxes on the rich as a redistributionary effort to correct inequality. She says, basically, yes we could borrow at negative interest rates and that would be good but I actually want specifically to raise taxes on the rich!
* Hillary says we should not loosen restrictions on H1B visas alone because that would take political pressure off of the need for comprehensive welfare reform with a path to citizenship. She wants to do nothing until we get a comprehensive bill. Also she wants companies to try harder to retrain American workers.
* Hillary points out that, to the degree that there is a competition between American laborers and immigrants, it is with undocumented workers because they're ACTUALLY cheaper. (In other words, a path to citizenship would actually fix this issue.) But everybody "knows somebody who lost a job to an undocumented worker" so that's why people are agitated.
* Education: Sanders's plan expected states to bear a third of the cost, but states are actually cutting investment in public education. Hillary says that we should subsidize tuition as much as we can, but we need to push states to invest in public education. (In general Hillary spends a lot of time pushing the federalism argument and saying that states need to take a lot of responsibility for their own state services, which is interesting and not necessarily a popular liberal argument.)
* Healthcare: Hillary wants to work on insurance costs, especially copays for prescriptions. She wants to try again with insurance co-ops and other alternative models, which the ACA did not support that well. She supports the public option to help out specifically with the high-risk pool. Medicare should be able to bargain on drug prices and the public option could too. Pharma has been using "gimmicks" to raise prescription drug prices and that needs to be dealt with.
* Governing is hard and tedious. Have to seize moments, Shock Doctrine style. Can't talk about everything you're doing because you're always negotiating with adversaries.
* Hillary thinks the media and social media drive a culture of negativity. She thinks when she's actually president people will like her more.
* Ezra: "Name three books you think everyone should read." Hillary's first book is It Takes a Village. Bad look! Ezra: "You can't plug your own book."
* Hillary believes that somebody should start a news network where if they get something wrong they go on air and say so, instead of just being ideological.
http://www.vox.com/a/hillary-clinton-interview
* Hillary defends welfare reform:
hillary via vox said:
Basically, she expected that the federal government would transition to supporting the working poor and states would take responsibility for the nonworking poor. Clearly this didn't happen.
* Hillary explicitly calls for raising taxes on the rich as a redistributionary effort to correct inequality. She says, basically, yes we could borrow at negative interest rates and that would be good but I actually want specifically to raise taxes on the rich!
* Hillary says we should not loosen restrictions on H1B visas alone because that would take political pressure off of the need for comprehensive welfare reform with a path to citizenship. She wants to do nothing until we get a comprehensive bill. Also she wants companies to try harder to retrain American workers.
* Hillary points out that, to the degree that there is a competition between American laborers and immigrants, it is with undocumented workers because they're ACTUALLY cheaper. (In other words, a path to citizenship would actually fix this issue.) But everybody "knows somebody who lost a job to an undocumented worker" so that's why people are agitated.
* Education: Sanders's plan expected states to bear a third of the cost, but states are actually cutting investment in public education. Hillary says that we should subsidize tuition as much as we can, but we need to push states to invest in public education. (In general Hillary spends a lot of time pushing the federalism argument and saying that states need to take a lot of responsibility for their own state services, which is interesting and not necessarily a popular liberal argument.)
* Healthcare: Hillary wants to work on insurance costs, especially copays for prescriptions. She wants to try again with insurance co-ops and other alternative models, which the ACA did not support that well. She supports the public option to help out specifically with the high-risk pool. Medicare should be able to bargain on drug prices and the public option could too. Pharma has been using "gimmicks" to raise prescription drug prices and that needs to be dealt with.
* Governing is hard and tedious. Have to seize moments, Shock Doctrine style. Can't talk about everything you're doing because you're always negotiating with adversaries.
* Hillary thinks the media and social media drive a culture of negativity. She thinks when she's actually president people will like her more.
* Ezra: "Name three books you think everyone should read." Hillary's first book is It Takes a Village. Bad look! Ezra: "You can't plug your own book."
* Hillary believes that somebody should start a news network where if they get something wrong they go on air and say so, instead of just being ideological.
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What's the source on this? Checked google and Twitter but didn't see anything relevant.
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Trump is pro privatization of the VA. Lol
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Like lots of others have said, I think the damage from the e-mails was already pretty built in. People seems to have mostly made up their own minds prior to the FBI recommendation one way or another.
And the GOP platform is almost always wall to wall hideous. Fortunately it doesn't seem to mean too much.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I have only ever seen Andrew Kaczynski tweet bad polls for Hillary, lol.
He would only tweet Dem polls when Bernie and Hillary were close in polls and even had a "WHAT HAPPENS IF HILLARY IS INDICTED, DEMS TOO RELAXED ABOUT THIS." tweet recently. What a strange person, lol.
He would only tweet Dem polls when Bernie and Hillary were close in polls and even had a "WHAT HAPPENS IF HILLARY IS INDICTED, DEMS TOO RELAXED ABOUT THIS." tweet recently. What a strange person, lol.
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this article is sooo good.
http://www.vox.com/a/hillary-clinton-interview/the-gap-listener-leadership-quality
I really enjoyed this article.
Regardless of how you feel about Clinton, her ability to generate allies and build support is amazingly impressive. And it wasn't by giving speeches. It was through listening, governing, and following through.
And it is useful to get to know the candidate by asking those who have worked with her.
When you constrast her to Bernie Sanders, it's not all that surprising that she commanded such a massive super delegate lead from day 1.
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Looking at the polls crosstabs, the only weird(ish) thing I see is that they have non-whites making up a smaller portion of the electorate than in 2012. For example, the electorate was 19% Hispanic in 2012, they have it at 15% in this poll.
That all seems pretty normal, although her numbers among women aren't quite as good as I would think.
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I want to say they're better in presidential years, but I do remember NV polls being uniformly sucky in 2010.
The only ones that called Reid's margin (or even his victory) correctly were the internals. I think Ralston was talking about that in the lead-up to 2010 election day, too as he was privy to them.
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The average in 2012 was Obama +2.8%. He won by 6.7%
What did he say or is saying?
Polling Hispanics is hard breh
It's every speech we've seen from him. There was some question over the weekend if he was going to move a little bit to the realm of truth about race relations.
Instead, typical fearmongering, and protecting all citizens from a criminal element. Dog whistle....
"I am the law and order candidate." "I am the compassion candidate." Will be the sound bites.
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How?
Female hosts are saying that Ailes never did anything to them.
Ah. Yeah typical. Once again the media will try to pretend there is a pivot in there somewhere in the end.
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He said that on-duty police deaths have seen a huge rise in the past several years and that we need to stop questioning police and stand with them.
For fucks sake.
Also why is Hillary only up by 1 in the latest poll.
Also I kinda wish Johnson wasn't on the ballot anywhere that would potentially matter. Like swing states
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That's where Morning Consult has had the race for like a month now. It's not a change.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Because Morning Consult has had her up by a point or two for a couple of weeks.
I feel like this thread should start charging you by the hour
Bam Bam Baklava
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It takes a lot of mental fuckery to go up there and say you're the unity candidate when your own party can't even unify with you. The man will say anything at this point. He's better for black people than anyone else, he's better for "the gays" than anyone else, and on and on.
It's like watching a used car salesman say or do whatever it takes to make the sale.
It's like watching a used car salesman say or do whatever it takes to make the sale.
RustyNails
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I dont even know how conversion therapy works. Like no amount of therapy is going to make me gay. Might as well throw in voodoo doctors and psychic readings.
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Conversion therapy is one of the most disgusting and terrifying things I can possibly fathom. Electroshock, electrocuting the genitals while showing gay porn, drugs to make you throw up when showing naked pictures of men. (Ya these are the extreme things...) The whole thing is terrifying and sad.
Also, reparative therapy is fucking stupid .Basically roleplay as a straight man until your self-loathing goes away.
Fuck. All. Of. That. Shit. Hard.
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If polling is bad for Hispanics, then it stands to reason that the Hispanics that speak Spanish aren't being polled. That would mean that the poll numbers could be higher for Clinton. Additionally, if the turnout is higher for minorities than the previous elections( it seems that pollsters underestimate that vote a few times) or about the same than I don't think I have too much to worry about.
What also could very much happen is that moderate and conservative Republicans will stay at home despite showing support of Trump in polls. I say for a lot of those Republicans they only have a few reasons to vote for Trump
There's nothing wrong to try to get some of the white working class voters into the party again. But, it is smarter to keep the base right now and expand it slightly over time. Another problem is that a good chunk of the white working class as some fiscal conservative views and don't support welfare for minorities and the like. It will really hard to change their minds.
What also could very much happen is that moderate and conservative Republicans will stay at home despite showing support of Trump in polls. I say for a lot of those Republicans they only have a few reasons to vote for Trump
There's nothing wrong to try to get some of the white working class voters into the party again. But, it is smarter to keep the base right now and expand it slightly over time. Another problem is that a good chunk of the white working class as some fiscal conservative views and don't support welfare for minorities and the like. It will really hard to change their minds.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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In the past, they did it by giving gay people lobotomies with ice picks.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Anybody see that Nevada Monthmouth poll? Looks more in line with what you'd expect.
User 463088
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Sorry if my thoughts on conversion therapy weren't well laid out. It's something that scares me to death. I remember seeing something about it when I was little, and knowing I was like those people...and what if my parents decided to have me fucking tortured so I was "normal." I mean, I had nothing to worry about but when you're like 10 and it's right there on 20/20 or Dateline or whatever.
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Skiptastic
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Speaking as a Hoosier, there can be no better outcome of this week than Evan Bayh entering the Senate race and Mike Pence leaving the governor's race.
TheLostBigBoss
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Nah man, your reaction is understandable.
'Conversion therapy' is just abuse and should be outlawed for minors. If a consenting adult really wants to do it I guess we can't stop them
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