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Grief.exe

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Pence is relatively unknown, which will ultimately be a better pick than Newt and Christie, who are both well known and have poor unfavorables.
 

B-Dubs

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So one inner circle guy is adamantly against Christie, another insider is adamantly pro-Newt, family is unsure on Pence.. I'm holding out for the slim, slim hope that Newt is the safe porridge that's "just right."

It sounds like Trump jr is on the Newt train. So it might just be the kids vs Manafort here.
 
Trump is trying to flush out the moles lol

Anyways, interestingly Obama was +1 Romney in 2012 around this time in the same NYT/CBS poll, and +3 McCain in 2008. I am beginning to think this election might not be the blowout we were hoping for. No wonder Hillary campaign wanted Cruz to be the nominee.
 

Grief.exe

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Trump is trying to flush out the moles lol

Anyways, interestingly Obama was +1 Romney in 2012 around this time in the same NYT/CBS poll, and +3 McCain in 2008. I am beginning to think this election might not be the blowout we were hoping for. No wonder Hillary campaign wanted Cruz to be the nominee.

It remains to be seen, but this week has been an outlier in the campaign so far due to the end of the email investigation.

Keep in mind Hillary was +4/+5/+6 just a week ago, so we should get an idea if this was an outlier or the status quo in the next few weeks. I have a feeling she will drift back up in the polls going into August.
 
Jesus fucking Christ, media. Way to blow your load early. If the goddamn PENCE CAMP ITSELF is unsure, there's no story here. Just endless circle jerking over scraps of information trying to divine the spontaneous actions of a lunatic tv personality.
 

SheSaidNo

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The Black Youth Project recently released a survey on millennial voters. Not sure if posted but heres some of the findings

Any talk of a monolithic youth vote is uninformed. There are vast differences in who young adults plan to vote for in November based on race and ethnicity.

Young African Americans, Latino/as, and Asian Americans overwhelmingly prefer
Clinton to Trump, while young Whites are evenly split between the two.

The Clinton campaign has work to do to motivate the young African Americans,
Latino/as, Asian Americans, and Whites who helped Barack Obama form a winning
coalition in 2008 and 2012.

Hillary Clinton is perceived as dishonest by nearly a majority of all young adults: 48% of
African Americans, 57% of Asian Americans, 64% of Latino/as, and 82% of Whites
believe that Hillary Clinton is not honest and trustworthy.

Donald Trump is viewed very negatively by young people. For example, majorities of
African Americans (77%), Asian Americans (78%), Latino/as (81%), and Whites (58%)
believe that Donald Trump is a racist.

The candidate that most appeals to young adults of all races and ethnicities, even as the
primary campaigns wind down, is Bernie Sanders. Majorities of young African
Americans (60%), Asian Americans (69%), Latino/as (68%), and Whites (59%) chose
Bernie Sanders over both Clinton and Trump as the candidate who best understands the
problems of people like them.

Among African American young adults who indicated they voted in the primaries, a
majority, 54%, said they voted for Bernie Sanders.

Most young adults oppose many of Donald Trump’s immigration proposals and support
Bernie Sanders’s economic proposals. But we find large differences across racial and
ethnic groups in attitudes towards these and many other policy issues.

There are also large racial differences in the issues that matter to how young people plan
to vote. For example, 30% of Latinos rate immigration as one of the three most important
issues to them in choosing which candidate to support, much higher than any other racial
group. Among African Americans, 21% rate police brutality as one of the three most
important issues to them.

There continues to be a deep divide between young African Americans and Whites in
views about race and racism in America. For example, 80% of African Americans
believe that racism remains a major problem, while only 54% of Whites agree.

Found here http://genforwardsurvey.com/assets/uploads/2016/07/GenForward-June-2016-BYP-Report.pdf
 

Bowdz

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Trump is trying to flush out the moles lol

Anyways, interestingly Obama was +1 Romney in 2012 around this time in the same NYT/CBS poll, and +3 McCain in 2008. I am beginning to think this election might not be the blowout we were hoping for. No wonder Hillary campaign wanted Cruz to be the nominee.

People hoping for a 400+ electoral college blow out will be disappointed because the polarization is just too great right to flip more than NC and AZ at the most. People hoping for a massive sweep in terms of the Senate and house races can still be in for a treat when the general gets into full swing.
 

Grief.exe

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Jesus fucking Christ, media. Way to blow your load early. If the goddamn PENCE CAMP ITSELF is unsure, there's no story here. Just endless circle jerking over scraps of information trying to divine the spontaneous actions of a lunatic tv personality.

There were rumors running through the punditry last night on Twitter that the Trump campaign would leak the choice during the day around this time.
 
Jesus fucking Christ, media. Way to blow your load early. If the goddamn PENCE CAMP ITSELF is unsure, there's no story here. Just endless circle jerking over scraps of information trying to divine the spontaneous actions of a lunatic tv personality.
For real though. He has turned the whole thing into the biggest reality show on earth.
 

Kusagari

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There were rumors running through the punditry last night on Twitter that the Trump campaign would leak the choice during the day around this time.

What if that was part of his plan? Leak a fake pick and then boast about the real pick and how slimy the media is.
 
Today is Hildawg and Kaine?

Meanwhile

Dave Shaw ‏@daveshaw00 11m11 minutes ago
Dave Shaw is calling for a total and complete shutdown of tweets about Trump's VP until we can figure out what the hell is going on.
 
MSNBC saying one of Trump's sons has said no decision has been made.

WTF MSNBC with a time counter to the announcement. Pathetic.

Edit: It was Donald Jr.
 
I just saw a video of Mike Pence after the breakfast with Trump's family and he did not look excited. More like he was trying to quash his own disappointment.

Manafort v. Kids -> Kid's winning.

I think he met with Pence because Manafort wanted it.

I think that would be illegal.
If that's illegal then Hillary can't put her husband in charge of the economy.
 
Trump is trying to flush out the moles lol

Anyways, interestingly Obama was +1 Romney in 2012 around this time in the same NYT/CBS poll, and +3 McCain in 2008. I am beginning to think this election might not be the blowout we were hoping for. No wonder Hillary campaign wanted Cruz to be the nominee.

On July 14, 2012, the Huffington Post had Obama up over Romney by 1.2%. Today, they have Clinton over Trump by 3.1%. Seems like a relatively good position to be in, given Trump's total GOTV failure and the likelihood that Clinton is going to unveil some crushing oppo due to his GOP rivals failing to go after him.
 

Crocodile

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Less than 24 hours to go and the Trump camp might not actually know who they are going to pick for VP? Un-fucking-real. This fucking election.
 

kess

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Heh, I thought Romney's kids being involved in his campaign raised some red flags but this... this is something else.
 

Holmes

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So according to this poll, Clinton can perform at the same level as Obama 08 in Pennsylvania, but with different voters. Democrats have lost their strength in the west/south west of Pennsylvania (outside of Pittsburgh), but according to this poll, are making up for it by crushing it in the Philly suburbs, where elections in Pennsylvania are generally determined. It makes sense too, the Philly suburbs are full of college educated voters, and, increasingly, minority voters (which it will be Clinton's job to get to the polls). In map form,

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