Great reading, thanks for the link.
So this is kind of a, uh, shortsighted view of the whole thing. The Iraq War cost an estimated two trillion dollars to the United States, discounting the amount spent by our allies and totally neglecting the cost in lives. Let's look at the opportunity cost of that. We could provide the entire country with universal and fully paid healthcare, universal pre-K, free college, guarantee that no child goes hungry, and help fund green energy to make serious headway against climate change. This is based on how much we spent on what we did do in Iraq. If the "aftermath and overall handling" were the issues, we would have spent much, much more. To quote one President George H.W. Bush on why he did not pursue further action against Iraq after expelling them from Kuwait (a much smarter and more just form of intervention):I've always held that the aftermath and overall handling of Iraq was the bigger issue; I think there's a moral imperative to do something when you know there's a guy next door who's murdered at least 250K people in his reign.
I tend to get riled up in discussions about political sovereignty when stuff like this comes up because it's really in poor taste to me to talk about "we shouldn't interfere in how other countries are run" when a person living in one of these regimes would likely not be comforted by your respect for their border. If Trump were to start massacring Muslims and gay people, I'd hope places like Canada and the UK and whatnot would depose him to save people instead of worrying about the imaginary line drawn around our country.
Because the American Political System didn't account for the fucking of Education Republicans have promoted for so long now. No one who signed the declaration thought that a Demagogue would be able to even run for president, let alone win, or that the governing bodies that are supposed to check his power would be so blinded by Partianship that they'd let him fuck over everything so long as he has an R next to his name.
Republicans know that Devos is more unqualified for this job then anyone else, but they don't give a shit about the good of the country because "Fuck you got mine". They would burn the entire country down to ensure that Democrats could do nothing.
Stuff like this is why I'm more hawkish than you'd think given my political leanings. The US is standing on a street corner with a body like The Rock, and we're just watching people like Assad just abuse others all over the place. The continued reign of people like this is absolutely a moral failure of our country.
It also didn't help that liberal democracy wasn't exactly a longstanding concept with a large body of work to draw from. It's bad that we fucked it up, but it's worse that we made it so hard to fix, ha.Of course, the electorate looked completely different at the time. They may have made a different system if they thought that just anyone could vote.
Holy shit, they actually released the list of "underreported terror attacks!"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4BhvaTVcAAEZuq.jpg
They didn't proof read it at all so they misspell "attacker" and "San Bernadino" a lot.
https://twitter.com/danmericaCNN/status/828768074031587328
Wait, I thought they were complaining about unreported, not underreported cases. One is falsifiable, the other isn't.
Holy shit, they actually released the list of "underreported terror attacks!"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4BhvaTVcAAEZuq.jpg
They didn't proof read it at all so they misspell "attacker" and "San Bernadino" a lot.
https://twitter.com/danmericaCNN/status/828768074031587328
Don't know if mentioned here, but CNN apparently barred Kellyanne from their Sunday shows last week.
Good.
I'm almost positive most/all of these were reported at some point
Same with the Paris attacks. Pretty sure that was a big fucking deal!They also seem to claim that San Bernardino's terror attack was underreported.
Not so sure about that!
What? What was their rationale?
Anything can be "underreported." It's a nonsense argument to make.
What? What was their rationale?
What? What was their rationale?
didn't the other channels get access to pence, or spicer or somebody, but because Trump is butthurt about cnn, he would only give them Kellyanne? I'd imagine that's what this is aboutWhat? What was their rationale?
More than being lampooned as a press secretary who makes up facts, it was Spicers portrayal by a woman that was most problematic in the presidents eyes, according to sources close to him. And the unflattering send-up by a female comedian was not considered helpful for Spicers longevity in the grueling, high-profile job, where he has struggled to strike the right balance between representing an administration that considers the media the "opposition party," and developing a functional relationship with the press.
"Trump doesn't like his people to look weak," added a top Trump donor.
Trumps uncharacteristic Twitter silence over the weekend about the Saturday Night Live sketch was seen internally as a sign of how uncomfortable it made the White House feel. Sources said the caricature of Spicer by McCarthy struck a nerve and was upsetting to the press secretary and to his allies, who immediately saw how damaging it could be in Trumpworld.
Trump is displeased with Spicer because Spicer was parodied on SNL by a woman and I'm going to set my face on fire.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/melissa-mccarthy-sean-spicer-234715
Trump is displeased with Spicer because Spicer was parodied on SNL by a woman and I'm going to set my face on fire.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/melissa-mccarthy-sean-spicer-234715
Not any worth listening to because it's so far away.I'm pretty scared about 2018.
This is very premature, but have any pundits started predicting how the congressional races will go?
I'm pretty scared about 2018.
This is very premature, but have any pundits started predicting how the congressional races will go?
A single, Italian citizen wounded in a shooting committed by an unidentified person in Bangladesh in Nov 2015? Damn, I guess the media shat the bed on this dramatic alleged terrorist incident. I'm convinced. Thanks, Trump. And this incident totally wasn't selected via madlibs.
I'm pretty scared about 2018.
This is very premature, but have any pundits started predicting how the congressional races will go?
Candidates haven't even been recruited yet, but historical trends show we should at least pick up some seats, though flipping houses isn't guaranteed.I'm pretty scared about 2018.
This is very premature, but have any pundits started predicting how the congressional races will go?
I'm pretty scared about 2018.
This is very premature, but have any pundits started predicting how the congressional races will go?
Trump is displeased with Spicer because Spicer was parodied on SNL by a woman and I'm going to set my face on fire.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/melissa-mccarthy-sean-spicer-234715
Donald J. Trump Verified account
‏@realDonaldTrump
The threat from radical Islamic terrorism is very real, just look at what is happening in Europe and the Middle-East. Courts must act fast!
He's so upset that it is going to get appealed hard.
Or the guy who does sassy Trump: https://youtu.be/sK5T7CLujoc"Until further notice, the part of Donald Trump will now be played by Leslie Jones."
Trump: "[Obama] likes me."
O'Reilly: ”How do you know?"
Trump: "I can feel it. That's what I do in life. It's called, like, I understand."
LOLLLLLL
I'm pretty scared about 2018.
This is very premature, but have any pundits started predicting how the congressional races will go?
Oh my god, lmao. Time stamp? Link????
So this is kind of a, uh, shortsighted view of the whole thing. The Iraq War cost an estimated two trillion dollars to the United States, discounting the amount spent by our allies and totally neglecting the cost in lives. Let's look at the opportunity cost of that. We could provide the entire country with universal and fully paid healthcare, universal pre-K, free college, guarantee that no child goes hungry, and help fund green energy to make serious headway against climate change. This is based on how much we spent on what we did do in Iraq. If the "aftermath and overall handling" were the issues, we would have spent much, much more. To quote one President George H.W. Bush on why he did not pursue further action against Iraq after expelling them from Kuwait (a much smarter and more just form of intervention):
If your argument is that we should have invaded Iraq, deposed Hussein and set up a new government, and then stayed their for much longer than the additional 6 we spent after their new constitution was drafted, the costs of that would be absurd. We could probably spend that much money to turn one or multiple developing countries into advanced economies like Japan. We could probably spend that money on eradicating hunger for the entire planet.
If that level of spending is unacceptable, what are we going to do? The Iraq War was not only an immense cost of dollars but hundreds of thousands of lives and has helped further destabilize the region while countless refugees flee in poverty and despair. ISIL was able to emerge because of the power vacuum left in the war's wake, which conservatives blame on Obama for leaving the country but only existed because of the Iraq War in the first place. What's the solution there? Spend trillions more to lock down a country? Bomb the shit out of ISIL until they're gone, and if so, what do you do when another brutal regime replaces them? Iran is a pretty terrible place, do we invade them next? Do we invade Russia and the People's Republic of China? Do we not rest until every brutal autocrat has been removed from power? Is the solution to knock them out, and then spend trillions more on modernizing their economies?
Problem is that it's never just about humanitarianism. Every American intervention has an ulterior motive, usually to ensure that third-world countries comply with out economic and strategic goals.
America's track record in the Mid-East is especially shitty. Our shameful ties to Saudi Arabia and the ensuing refusal to work with Shia or secular factions means that our interventions tend to empower Islamists and push everybody else into the other camp. Our incompetence let the revolutions in Syria and Libya be hijacked by far-right religious extremists, leaving these countries far worse than how we found them.
www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-on-his-re...admit-this-but-he-likes-me/amp/?client=safari
I feel like someone should make a thread I died laughing at this shit
Just saw Hillary's new video, god I miss that bitch.
Sort of bad? It's AlkindsabadMan, this is sort of a bad graph by Nate.
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