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PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house
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neurosisxeno
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That prayer pic is creepy as fuck...
I find it's one of those things that's only creepy to people who didn't grow up with it.
Officerrob
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Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2m2 minutes ago
My son Donald did a good job last night. He was open, transparent and innocent. This is the greatest Witch Hunt in political history. Sad!
My son Donald did a good job last night. He was open, transparent and innocent. This is the greatest Witch Hunt in political history. Sad!
ArkhamFantasy
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Dem lawyer talking point. "You're allowed to say honest and transparent".
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Yeah it's super common for me. Very comforting when you're the person being prayed over. Donnie needs it lol.
nature boy
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Doin' it right y'all
Or only not creepy to those that did.
nature boy
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Plz remember
neurosisxeno
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Yea, NYT kinda slam dunked that story, considering their source is the same guy they are claiming did something incredibly shadey...
Yeah. He's using his standard go-to phrases for his followers, but they don't really apply for this story.
Does it matter?
I've lost faith in anything happening. GOP is dead silent on this, and probably will continue to be until this blows over. This is the first time I've started to think the "nothing will happen" contingent may just be right. Trump is just moonwalking through this.
Supposedly, with a new CBO score early next week.
We all know this.
I just have zero faith in a GOP controlled congress doing anything at this point - regardless of what the findings say.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
https://twitter.com/williamjordann/status/885099294193307648
New poll about healthcare. 46% of Trump supporters say republicans should work with democrats on fixing health care. Surprising.
Your posts indicate that you actually don't. The republicans supported Nixon until major stuff came out.
New poll about healthcare. 46% of Trump supporters say republicans should work with democrats on fixing health care. Surprising.
Your posts indicate that you actually don't. The republicans supported Nixon until major stuff came out.
You don't think that email qualifies as "major stuff"? You're just assuming more stuff will inevitably come out - we don't know if there's anything else.
Our institutions are just broken.
Incidentally - I'm reading the Hunter S Thompson account of the Nixon 72 campaign. Highly recommended, although its HST so buyer beware.
Plz remember
But who are the sources when Fox says it?
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nintendoman58
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I don't have faith in our institutions. That's the problem.
I wonder if this means a story is going to be dropping today.
Plz remember
nintendoman58
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Well, you should.
Because you're not smarter than them and neither am I.
So stop thinking that you are.
Your institutions are what got Mueller investigating this thing in the first place.
The smoking gun comes when the smoking gun comes. Until then you play the waiting game and use this entire facade to your political advantage and never let up with it.
You never give up. You wait.
Honestly I feel like most of the "Nothing will come of this Crowd" are just looking for smug forum vindication. They think by cherry-picking random quotes and constantly spamming talking points at every step in this whole debacle means they're smarter than everyone else and it's so infuriating to read.
Don't get suckered into the mindset of those people.
Like, do you see the House and Senate Dems screaming "THIS IS THE SMOKING GUN THIS IS THE SMOKING GUN WE NEED TO IMPEACH NOOOOW!!!"?
Also remember that Mueller's team can put charges on people. They haven't done that yet and he's still putting together his team.
People really need to stop looking at news stories and yelling about how it's the smoking gun and immediately discrediting everything without actually thinking about everything.
nintendoman58
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Has the Right hijacked it yet?
#bringbackObamaandprosecutehim
Great article and gathering of info by ProPublica, as usual. Someone should do a thread.
https://www.propublica.org/article/what-we-know-and-dont-know-about-hate-crimes-in-america
https://www.propublica.org/article/what-we-know-and-dont-know-about-hate-crimes-in-america
cooljeanius
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Not that badly; it looks like it's still mostly people using it sincerely to me...
You realize that is most people, no?
I was just thinking this morning about how much I miss Obama. Like a child whose parents just went through a bad divorce and the mother's new boyfriend is a narcissistic, tiny handed, ego maniac who calls you a Fake Child constantly.
Greigor The Fellhand
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Plz remember
so like everything from the whitehouse
As I stated earlier, people have been shouting, "Watergate Watergate Watergate!" as if the GOP hasn't learned from that scandal. You should be looking to Iran-Contra instead, where a designated scapegoat took the fall for everyone in exchange for a slap on the wrist and a lucrative media career. DTJ is the new Ollie North.
The only similarity with Watergate is that after Trump is out of office, the GOP will denounce him as a RINO. The Party cannot fail, only be failed. So as long as they're in charge "nothing will happen" with regards to Trump because the GOP will force nothing to happen.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I guess I'm not seeing how "learning from that scandal" has anything to do with what is happening here, especially since we're nowhere near as far into what appears to be an even worse scandal.
Joe Shlabotnik
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They are three different scandals. "Stupid Watergate" is funny shorthand for the Russia stuff but none of these are truly comparable in the specifics, to say nothing of us being very much still in the dark about the current one.
The current political climate is what it is for many different reasons.
Edit: what plinko said
The current political climate is what it is for many different reasons.
Edit: what plinko said
aspiegamer
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Yup. Witch hunt. Despite the fact his son admitted of his own free will that this covert meeting happened, with the expectation that Russia would have dirt on Clinton. Nothing to see here, folks.
Seriously, the raw level of stupid in admitting as much as Jr did yesterday is just... beyond comprehension. Yeah, the media might have thrown the emails out anyway, but you could spin multiple levels of (stupid) plausible deniability and feign ignorance. But no, he just openly admitted to all of it. Idiot. There's no "source say" when your own damn son surrendered the info.
Seriously, the raw level of stupid in admitting as much as Jr did yesterday is just... beyond comprehension. Yeah, the media might have thrown the emails out anyway, but you could spin multiple levels of (stupid) plausible deniability and feign ignorance. But no, he just openly admitted to all of it. Idiot. There's no "source say" when your own damn son surrendered the info.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
It's all just red meat for the far right base. They know those are the only people that they need to convince right now, and they know they are dumb enough to parrot those talking points.
Hasn't he already? I could've sworn earlier there was a federal judge or two that McConnell decided to vote on despite not getting the support from their home-state Dem senators.
Yup. People can keep shouting "Watergate Watergate!" as much as they want, as if something is guaranteed to happen eventually, but it's a bullshit comparison. The political situation is entirely different, republicans control all of Congress. More importantly, the voting populace (specifically republican voters) are more polarized and hooked on propaganda than ever. Trump would keep his 80+% approval among republicans even if he shot Mueller dead in the Oval on live TV. As long as Republican voters support him, there isn't a goddamn thing that will touch him.
RumbleHumble
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RumbleHumble
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That's funny, if the GOP somehow learned from Watergate, I doubt things would be progressing at the speed they have been. People call this "Stupid Watergate" for a reason.
A majority of Republicans believed Nixon shouldn't resign from office over Watergate three days before Nixon resigned from office over Watergate.
There's a NYMag piece that goes into this at length, but basically: the Democratic control of Congress is overstated as a factor in Nixon's downfall and Republicans were no more principled or ballsy then than they are now, only choosing to abandon Nixon when midterms started approaching and their seats were suddenly in jeopardy.
RumbleHumble
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Does Trump even have 80% approval among Republicans anymore? Last I checked, the latest poll based on party ID had him at 23% percent disapproval among Republicans, a 7 point drop from the prior poll:
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...-sunk-white-voters-republicans-support-615787
Even still, Republican voter conversion is likely not going to happen often (unless you're Morning Joe), but each passing scandal makes it harder for Republican voters to turn out while theoretically galvanizing the Democratic base. Just because each scandal doesn't wipe out all the problems of the world does not mean we should be discouraged by it. Each scandal matters.
RumbleHumble
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This post is good. Thank you for sharing it.
BotoxAgent
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Doin' it right y'all
is this a real press release? this reads like a joke
skullmuffins
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Our President is a joke. That's from https://twitter.com/RealPressSecBot which converts his tweets into press release format, since per the WH, his tweets are official statements.
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