What a punchable face.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house
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skullmuffins
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Does Gorka have a real job yet because last I heard he was wandering around the WH between TV appearances because he couldn't get the security clearance required to actually do anything
Ugh. Soon as I saw Gorka appear on the screen, I had to change the channel.
Officerrob
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Cooper has literally rolled his eyes and rested his head on his hand during this interview
FloydtheFathead
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Probably being an undeniable Nazi as well as questionable credentials might give the Admin pause to use him as a talking head I suppose.
Don't think so, I believe he still has to learn Farsi to get a natsec clearance.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
He literally read Cooper's ratings and said he was being beaten by Nickelodeon or something and then mentioned how many viewers Tucker Carlson has.
Officerrob
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It's such an odd attack line, if the show/channel is so worthless that nobody is watching it, why is he spending 30 minutes of his time being interviewed on the channel?
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Apparently it was also something he said the last time he was on the show. What a tool.
IggyChooChoo
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I literally did not know Tom Coburn had retired. Going to pour myself a drink to celebrate! I will take good news where I can get it.
Important to note he said they knew about the meeting but not what was discussed or the emails. I would imagine they were planning to ask them about exactly that once they appear before the committee.
skullmuffins
Banned
also from chris hayes:
https://mobile.twitter.com/nick_ramsey/status/885296406558330880/video/1
don jr totally had a phone call in the middle of his email exchange where he discussed the details of the meeting with Emin Agalarov. didn't see anyone point this out until now.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nick_ramsey/status/885296406558330880/video/1
don jr totally had a phone call in the middle of his email exchange where he discussed the details of the meeting with Emin Agalarov. didn't see anyone point this out until now.
That would make sense since I still have no certain idea who leaked those emails seeing only a handful of Trump Loyalists would even know or have hold of said emails.
Host Samurai
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Surprised nobody picked up on that detail.
neurosisxeno
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How is Don Jr. not being questioned by Congress left and right at this point? It's been a few days and this is hard evidence that he himself released of collusion between the Trump Campaign and the Russian Government. It's incredible.
I do not blame for that reaction at all.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
They also need to get in touch with that assistant who Russia said was a channel to Trump.
I don't see how this benefits anyone. Clinton isn' a nominee. She's not even running for office. Unless they are doing this to try and make the GOP play their hand and begin prosecuting Clinton due to whataboutism.
So, I am reading a bit of the Federal Election Regulations, and I actually don't see a way Trump Jr could get out of charges without a pardon, if they were made
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20
I am sure you all have read the opinions of people who know a lot better than me about this, but here are the relevant sections:
Basically accepting the meeting qualifies as providing a method for making a contribution, and is thus solicitation by the legal definition. Obtaining information about a political opponent would constitute as a service that falls under the "Anything of value" part of contributions.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20
I am sure you all have read the opinions of people who know a lot better than me about this, but here are the relevant sections:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20 said:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/300.2 said:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/100.52 said:
Basically accepting the meeting qualifies as providing a method for making a contribution, and is thus solicitation by the legal definition. Obtaining information about a political opponent would constitute as a service that falls under the "Anything of value" part of contributions.
Someone was on NPR today who worked on Watergate and said straight out that what Jr did was flat out illegal.
But whose is gonna prosecute him?
Just this morning NPR had another story about how the Justice Department lost a lot of it's bite after the Enron case because people were upset that they went after someone so big.
This piece on Gillespie's campaign issues post-primary is reminiscent of the undending Clinton/Sanders stuff. https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...e-635pm:homepage/story&utm_term=.a2d7bee62813
edit: lol Stewart's already announcing a bid for Senate in '18 v Kaine. lolol
edit: lol Stewart's already announcing a bid for Senate in '18 v Kaine. lolol
So this'll be the GOP talking point going forward. John Solomon, who posted the recent Comey memos story, out with a new one:
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...sian-lawyer-into-us-before-she-met-with-trump
"The Obama Administration didn't do enough to stop our criminal activity! Soft on crime Dems!"
Excuse me but this is all part of Obama's 11D chess game to turn America into a communist hellhole.
This is probably old but Trump's Russia lawyer is shockingly a hot mess, unlikely to receive the security clearance he'd need to do even a half assed job. He should probably stick to getting wasted and suing his daughter's equestrian school:
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-russia-lawyer-marc-kasowitz-alcohol-security-clearance
Also the NYT is reporting that he may actually quit Trump's team soon. Putting the "L" in Lawyer.
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-russia-lawyer-marc-kasowitz-alcohol-security-clearance
Also the NYT is reporting that he may actually quit Trump's team soon. Putting the "L" in Lawyer.
Cesare Borgia
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What if she was under surveillance? What if the entire meeting with Jr was recorded, via FISA warrant?
KirbYuuYuu
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I'll wait until he actually resigns.
Too many threats of resignation and nothing comes of those.
Then Obama interfered with the election and did the same thing Putin did, so why is it an issue?
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Hmmmmmm
skullmuffins
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This is such a dumb conspiracy. Yeah, Obama tricked the Trump team into colluding with Russia so they'd win the election and destroy our democracy.
They laid the groundwork for this talking point in the first press release Trump's lawyers put out after Don Jr.'s meeting leaked and it never made any sense. If it was a setup, why would we keep it a secret until after we lost the election? What's the goal?
Aaron Strife
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RumbleHumble
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It also doesn't change the fact that when offered oppo by a foreign adversary, Trump Jr. said Hell Yeah!
Choked on his crow
Autodidact
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This entire Russia story has so many connecting threads. In every new article you see echoes of something published months ago that seemed small or irrelevant at the time but takes on new significance.
From today's WSJ article:
From a BBC article in January:
Maybe one of the Baltic states provided the intercepts that investigators have now begun to re-examine. And would these tapes about "money from the Kremlin" have anything to do with the "Putin pays Rohrabacher and Trump" tape?
And we know that the Agalarovs, who appear in the dossier, have become supporting characters in this week's drama.
We will get one hell of a mini-series.
From today's WSJ article:
From a BBC article in January:
Maybe one of the Baltic states provided the intercepts that investigators have now begun to re-examine. And would these tapes about "money from the Kremlin" have anything to do with the "Putin pays Rohrabacher and Trump" tape?
And we know that the Agalarovs, who appear in the dossier, have become supporting characters in this week's drama.
We will get one hell of a mini-series.
NihonTiger90
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The rumor mongers (aka they who shall not be named) were saying months ago that the Estonians had turned over info to the US intelligence agencies.
timetokill
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Oh, so that's what Hannity and Newt were talking about just a few minutes ago on Hannity's radio show. "If collusion is such a big deal, then WHAT ABOUT HILLARY blah blah blah".... When they weren't fellating each other of course.
Newt also thinks Mueller should hire "at least one pro-Trump Republican" because of course to them this is just about politics.
skullmuffins
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good lord put that img in quotes
would you need a constitutional amendment to put limits on a president's pardon power?
NihonTiger90
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Yeah, they're trying to make this stick as their talking point now. Desperately.
Some people dug up an old legal opinion published by the White House's Office of Legal Counsel, a few days before Nixon Resigned. Their conclusion was that a sitting President does not have the authority to Pardon himself, but outline two somewhat convoluted processes a sitting President could receive a pardon.
https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/olc/opinions/1974/08/31/op-olc-supp-v001-p0370_0.pdf
I swear whenever the heck Trump croaks Hannity will try to be buried alive with him.
RumbleHumble
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It's a bad talking point. They were better off sticking with Solomon's "It's Obama's fault!" spin. The Ukraine bullshit is too convoluted for Fox News viewers, and the Obama thing resonates with two other Fox News talking points regarding Obama: Lax Foreign Policy and Lax Immigration Standards.
RumbleHumble
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On a side note, r/the_donald is divided in their ranks on if they should even use the word Russiagate in reference to this "hoax". They still haven't gotten to which spin theory to adopt. Some of the top upvoted comments on posts are entirely in Russian.
They're not coping well right now.
They're not coping well right now.
BlastProcessing
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Or she entered the country under an alias, which is a thing the FSB could set up.
In other news, I think we just reached peak Kellyanne.
Rumsfeld would be proud.
timetokill
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So this is yet another data point confirming the Steele dossier. Hilarious.
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