StopMakingSense
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Same.
Only textual difference is in article III they are expected to serve "during good Behaviour"
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house
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Same.
Only textual difference is in article III they are expected to serve "during good Behaviour"
Autodidact
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Kushner may be dumb, but he's retained a VERY competent lawyer, former Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick, who makes Trump's goons look like the tabloid ambulance chasers they are. She actually works at Mueller's law firm, coincidentally.
I have to phrase this exactly or PBY will tell me to "stop wildly speculating": Lawyers look out for their clients, as they should. All of Kushner's actions have been guided by professional attorneys whose goal is to minimize the consequences and/or charges he could face. If he disclosed these new meetings - and if he has anything to do with the email story - it's for a reason.
Ignatz Mouse
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We have to stop using the word collusion and start using "criminal conspiracy."
Collusion is too soft a term.
Collusion is too soft a term.
StopMakingSense
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you need 67 votes in the Senate to convict. Really the Republican voter sentiment needs to sour enough for congressional R's to dump Trump.
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I've often said that maybe, under the right circumstances, a Republican House might impeach. You only need 24 Republican votes in addition to all the Democratic votes.
But a conviction in the Senate seems exceedingly unlikely even with a Democratic majority unless we have undeniable evidence.
But a conviction in the Senate seems exceedingly unlikely even with a Democratic majority unless we have undeniable evidence.
whyamihere
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Wow, it's being reported (based on his words) that McCain is a no. I'll believe it when I see it.
https://twitter.com/sangerkatz/status/885647082043973632
https://twitter.com/sangerkatz/status/885647082043973632
AntraxSuicide
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Based on an interpretation of a series of labored groans and grimaces. a few teeth clenchings.
The word "no" did not cross his lips though
Aaron Strife
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I could see us topping out at like 55 Senate seats by 2020, and that's if everything goes well. Beat Heller and Flake next year, Gardner, Tillis, Perdue, Daines and Sullivan in 2020 (maybe Collins' seat will open up).
Last year was our chance to make big gains in the Senate and we blew it. The next time that class is up will hopefully be a Dem midterm, and given how those have gone I'd count it as a blessing if we just held even. Hassan should be our only vulnerable member, with Cortez-Masto and Bennet hopefully getting an assist from demographics.
We can target Rubio, McCain (probably retiring), Isakson (maybe retiring), Johnson, Burr and Toomey, but I can't fathom making significant gains in a midterm.
Last year was our chance to make big gains in the Senate and we blew it. The next time that class is up will hopefully be a Dem midterm, and given how those have gone I'd count it as a blessing if we just held even. Hassan should be our only vulnerable member, with Cortez-Masto and Bennet hopefully getting an assist from demographics.
We can target Rubio, McCain (probably retiring), Isakson (maybe retiring), Johnson, Burr and Toomey, but I can't fathom making significant gains in a midterm.
hydragonwarrior
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I hope for this too but I really have no idea how many moderates and new voters have been infected by the grass-root effect of Fox News and co... Hell even the internet is a proud home for Trump/Republican voters to fester, taking advantage of the stuff dems once wielded effectively (memes, facebook, reddit).
According to the below tweets, he offered amendments. Not that he said 'no'.
whyamihere
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You know what I'm excited for.
The 2020 Senate elections.
The 2020 Senate elections.
C'mon old man, give us one more maverick move!
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Speaking of Hassan, I was surprised that Ayotte didn't demand a recount when she had every right to.
whyamihere
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She was over it.
Aaron Strife
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Let me give you a preview of 2020.You know what I'm excited for.
The 2020 Senate elections.
Tulsibros: "I'm not voting this year, Booker is corrupt man, he's just as bad as Trump who's going to lose anyway"
"But you can still vote downballot to provide a check and balance against Trump"
Tulsibros: "I don't know what those words mean"
AntraxSuicide
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This is also a good point. I've mentioned it before but I had students of different demographics in tears the day after the election. There's real danger for certain groups of people under this administration and that would only be worse if we let them ignore the rule of law. Today it's "oh it was just a dumb meeting, it's not worth the trouble" but tomorrow could be "...the decision of the Supreme Court has fell still born, and they find that they cannot coerce Georgia to yield to its mandate," -Andrew Jackson
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Maybe she realized that by endorsing Trump and then revoking it, she'd pissed everyone off and wouldn't have an easy time in the future.
whyamihere
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I would also argue that we're never getting 2/3 of the Senate to remove him in an era of hyper polarization.
Aaron Strife
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Trump: "Next year we have to defeat Kelly Ayotte"
Pence: "But sir she's not up for reelection until 2022"
Trump: "Did I fucking stutter?"
I agree that America's government and institutions have failed on a fundamental level and exposed us all to danger, some more seriously than others.
But I'm not sure how it proves your point!
And if they don't take those amendments?
A Human Becoming
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Speaking as a resident of New Hampshire, I was too. The chance of a recount changing the winner is very low.
whyamihere
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If there's absolutely no chance to remove Trump through impeachment, then there's little reason to entertain it as a possibility, so put all of your energy into one of the few ways in which we can get him out of office.
If American governance has fundamentally failed it seems weird to spend a lot of time imagining a situation where it suddenly starts working again for no reason.
whyamihere
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There is a less than 1% chance that Trump will be impeached.
There is a greater than 1% chance that Trump will lose election in 2020.
So.
I don't actually understand what your point is besides "must be nice not need impeachment!". Because, no one is getting impeachment. Ergo.
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You know what I'm excited for.
The 2020 Senate elections.
Oh my goodness. Get a charismatic democratic presidential candidate that drives people to the polls, and we've got a stew going.
whyamihere
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Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
whyamihere
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He doesn't know anything, he's just saying to keep the pressure up.
You know what I'm excited for.
The 2020 Senate elections.
What are the realistic pickups here? Gardner's more of a dead man walking than Heller is, Tillis is beatable. Perdue could go if Georgia goes D in 2020.
Collins is immortal unless she resigns to run for governor next year. Ernst is polling well against generic D right now, but Iowa's more elastic than other states.
Edit: If Collins won as governor she could appoint her own replacement, lol.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Oh, I know. I was referring to the way he's going about it. Seems a little doom and gloom.
Bonen no Max'd
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Along with those but there's also Daines and Sullivan if things go well in a 2008-esque wave, believe in the Mallotmentum
balladofwindfishes
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Good.
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We could try to make Cornyn fight for reelection, even if Texas may not be quite blue enough to beat him then.
What does Maine's Democratic bench even look like? I know the Attorney General (?) filed to run for governor the other day, but I've heard of no one else.
Speaking of Maine, will Poliquin's seat in ME-02 be vulnerable next year? We had it not that long ago, and it has a PVI of only R+2. I know that district went for Trump...
ErasureAcer
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Do you guys feel the Dems will not lose seats next year in the Senate? Map is rough. 2020 could maybe only put things back to even.
I think we can stand pat with the wind at our backs (Heller/McCaskill both losing seems likely at this point) and that any actual pickups are gravy.
Susan Collins is definitely not immortal. No blue state Republican can be after this mess - even a wacky independent state like Maine.
Go for: Colorado, Maine, NC, Georgia
All the Medicaid heavy states that used to be D senators: LA, WV, AK, hell let's target Kentucky too
So what the fuck is she going to do about that in 2018?
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McCaskill has gotten lucky so far with Wagner withdrawing and Hawley waffling, and I think she'll work like hell to pull it off. If she loses, it won't be due to lack of effort.
Sue Collins may not be immortal, but she'll be the favorite if the health care bill fails, which looks likely. She's been vocally opposed at every step for a reason.
Sue Collins may not be immortal, but she'll be the favorite if the health care bill fails, which looks likely. She's been vocally opposed at every step for a reason.
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