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I think Democrats should run on single payer healthcare in 2018
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house
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Aaron Strife
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They need to run a gubernatorial candidate first. Like, at all.
Box of Kittens
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Maybe they can convince that guy from Ohio to run for governor instead of Ryan's seat.
Bonen no Max'd
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I thought we wanted them to win though.
Box of Kittens
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It's the Wisconsin Dems. Last time they ran a Madison school board member. You have to keep your expectations in check.
SomewhatGroovy
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Trump lobbing numerous lies in his rally speech right now. Gives no fucks and neither do his supporters. They eat it up.
Poodlestrike
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I'm not totally sure what Dems should be running on in 2018, but whatever it is they should make sure it's a Big Deal and not concern themselves overmuch with the details. Better to promise the moon and fail to deliver (but have control of all 3 branches of government) than promise exactly what we can deliver while being honest about potential pitfalls and downsides and lose bigly.
People want their unicorns.
People want their unicorns.
SomewhatGroovy
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Replying to @sahilkapur
Trump says Dems have been "unbelievably nasty," next sentence bashes Jon Ossoff as "this kid who forgot to live in the community he was in."
Trump says Dems have been "unbelievably nasty," next sentence bashes Jon Ossoff as "this kid who forgot to live in the community he was in."
Spoiled Milk
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this isn't how you do science
Ziltoidia 9
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Trump just said P-P-P
THANK YOU
THERE IS A GOD
THIS WILL GO FAR
THANK YOU
THERE IS A GOD
THIS WILL GO FAR
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
huh?
SomewhatGroovy
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Daniel Dale‏Verified account @ddale8 12s12 seconds ago
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Trump asks the crowd to say what he withdrew from, then says "P-P-P," then says the Trans-Pacific Partnership (?).
VendettaRed07
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If only he called it the P-P-T
Spoiled Milk
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Give him a break. The witch hunt is exhausting.
Ziltoidia 9
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Will make for a good sound byte when the Pee Pee tape is leaked.
SomewhatGroovy
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He's such a mind fuck, jesus christ.
I mean, Howard Stern and Larry King were right about this dude. This basically sums it up perfectly (said during the speech just now)
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Donald Trump on him and Republicans: "The truth is: people love us."
For a summary on what he has said, follow Dale and Sahil Kapur. They both wrote up most of his zingers.
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Trump: Why could Obama deal with Iran, which is so bad to "the gays, the women," but I can't deal with anybody without getting yelled at?
I mean, Howard Stern and Larry King were right about this dude. This basically sums it up perfectly (said during the speech just now)
Daniel Dale‏Verified account @ddale8 20m20 minutes ago
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Donald Trump on him and Republicans: "The truth is: people love us."
For a summary on what he has said, follow Dale and Sahil Kapur. They both wrote up most of his zingers.
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Trump: Why could Obama deal with Iran, which is so bad to "the gays, the women," but I can't deal with anybody without getting yelled at?
Alligatorjandro
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lol he wants everything to be his idea
Aaron Strife
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Maybe they can run Tim Ryan.
Box of Kittens
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Well, my previous idea was to import some spare candidates from Illinois. We already have eight declared candidates on the Dem side.
None of this matters
Not to rehash Russia's involvement in our elections, but this is fucking INSANE to me:
"The Department of Homeland Security insists that no one hacked actual votesbut admits it never ran an audit to check."
Like, are you fucking kidding me?
"There's not way this lump could be cancer, and I never got a biopsy to check"
Similar to how people won't go to see a doctor, fearing bad news, I think a lot of people really don't want to know if a foreign actor could change our vote counts, so they'd rather live in willful ignorance than face the possibility of an ugly truth.
"The Department of Homeland Security insists that no one hacked actual votesbut admits it never ran an audit to check."
Like, are you fucking kidding me?
"There's not way this lump could be cancer, and I never got a biopsy to check"
Similar to how people won't go to see a doctor, fearing bad news, I think a lot of people really don't want to know if a foreign actor could change our vote counts, so they'd rather live in willful ignorance than face the possibility of an ugly truth.
You Know Nothing
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Ask the gays!
Sirpopopop
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Still did better than Quist.
BoogieWoogie
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Trump is now seriously to try to sell his sheep on the idea of a "solar wall"
Brawndo Addict
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The US government cannot admit anything that would lend credence to the idea of Russians changing actual vote totals, regardless of whether it was true or not. That's basically game over for anyone interested in preserving a sense of legitimacy with our electoral system.
Once that door is opened, it's never going to close. Now maybe it's just a matter of time before it happens and maybe the electoral process is illegitimate for other reasons, but openly admitting that would be apocalyptic.
Once that door is opened, it's never going to close. Now maybe it's just a matter of time before it happens and maybe the electoral process is illegitimate for other reasons, but openly admitting that would be apocalyptic.
RustyNails
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I'm curious, what did Howard Stern say about him?
Im with you. Would be a great idea.
Macho Madness
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Damn at South Carolina coming out of nowhere with the closest result of all the red districts.
But it shouldn't be surprising, I guess. The district had a Democratic representative as recently as 2010, I think.
But it shouldn't be surprising, I guess. The district had a Democratic representative as recently as 2010, I think.
IggyChooChoo
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Can't speak to Larry King, but Stern was convinced Trump was running for fun and to boist his businesses, and that he didn't want to be president at all.
Given that "TRUMP NEWS" was supposed to launch the day after the election, this is likely accurate. It was "THE PRODUCERS" in non-ironic campaign form.
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/877693484282630144
Solar wall.
If this can get his base to view solar positively then fuck it, let's go!
Solar wall.
If this can get his base to view solar positively then fuck it, let's go!
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
I'm more and more convinced that we should put a per-capita limit on race spending.
If they get more donations then the cap, split the funds with additional GOTV efforts, and other races. Not sure what the split should be.
Would actually look good for the party too.
The diminishing returns on these local races is real.
If they get more donations then the cap, split the funds with additional GOTV efforts, and other races. Not sure what the split should be.
Would actually look good for the party too.
The diminishing returns on these local races is real.
Carpe Libertatem
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Wow so the Goldman Sachs executive did better than everyone else.
Although I guess Thompson had a bigger change. So the non-nationalized races had the most success. Shocker.
Aaron Strife
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Don't know how it stacked up last year, but SC has been moving up over the last few elections as far as states with the highest Dem vote share. The same factors making NC, GA, TX etc bluer should be in SC too just a bit later.
It was Obama's 31st best state in 2012 and Clinton's 31st in 2016. Obama's 33rd best in 2008, Kerry's 36th best, Gore's 38th.
The vote total has been remarkably consistent - Obama scored 44% there in both his elections, Clinton, Gore and Kerry all pulled 40%. High floor, low ceiling.
shinra-bansho
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The Dems should run Goldman Sachs executives everywhere is the clear takeaway.
Autodidact
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Basically, black people vote consistently despite "liberals" trying to pin election losses on them.
It also reiterates a point I made last thread. The south has more potential than, say, Oklahoma or Kansas because of the south's black population. Maximize and increase black and Latino turnout, and you make the south and the entire Sun Belt competitive. Those groups will be the reasons we start winning elections there. Abandoning "identity politics" would be a bad move.
Aaron Strife
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Pretttty much. Some drop off last year obviously but white Midwesterners are far more to blame for Trump if we're doling out blame.
smokeandmirrors
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Sorry to respond to this post so late, but I see now why Ros-Lehtinen decided to "retire." She represents a D+5 district, won only by a respectable margin last November, and probably would have lost next year. If it's D+18 with an open seat, I can't imagine her incumbency advantage would've helped that much.
Kirblar, you live in Comstock's district, don't you? Has the VA Democratic Party any suitable challengers in mind? She only won 53-47 in November - not a squeaker but certainly not anything amazing, either. In a D+1 district, she should be finished next time, I would hope.
Sirpopopop
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Chart neglects to mention that Montana has actually voted Dems in before (See: Montana's governor and Tester). Same with the SC district. (2010 saw the Dem there wash out) Different context entirely than our fellow in Georgia.
If you're still going to go on a, "Ossoff should have run on a Bernie platform," that a lot of you want to utilize, then I suppose using deceptive charting is a good way to do it.
Regardless, I honestly want the Democrats to run on a Bernie platform everywhere. It would flop. Then we could go back to a reasonable 50-state solution with this Tea Party-style uprising in the party nipped, once and for all.
Why isn't this getting more limelight? Wtf?
Dems: Free shit 2020.
Listened to both 538 and The Weeds analyze GA-6/SC-5. I don't remember 538 even bringing up the incumbent factor, but it was a good point brought up on The Weeds -- these special elections don't have incumbents, most of the races in 2018 will. So it's probably not smart to extrapolate these special election swings across the board. When dems are trying to take a seat from an incumbent R, it'll be significantly tougher.
Aaron Strife
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VA-10 has several credible challengers luckily.
RustyNails
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South Carolina swing is madness.
How's Medicaid buy-in supposed to be better than private insurance? Because it has no deductible?
I was on Medicaid briefly (gap between when i turned 26 and when I got out of grad school and started making some decent income), but only ever used it for some prescription acne medicine, so i only saw what it gave me in co-pays.
I was on Medicaid briefly (gap between when i turned 26 and when I got out of grad school and started making some decent income), but only ever used it for some prescription acne medicine, so i only saw what it gave me in co-pays.
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