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[Zolo]

Lindsay Graham said Ryan again guaranteed this wouldn't be law. Sure thing, bro.

Fuck off Graham. You own this if they pass it through.

 

[UberTag]

Quite honestly, I don't think I've felt anxiety like this since election night.

That feeling is entirely warranted. You should expect a similar outcome as well.

 

[Officerrob]

Lindsay Graham said Ryan again guaranteed this wouldn't be law. Sure thing, bro.

They can do nothing to stop him, idiots

 

[Zolo]

That feeling is entirely warranted. You should expect a similar outcome as well.

Yeah. It seems like Reps. made up their mind before seeing the bill.

They can do nothing to stop him, idiots

They know. They just want someone to blame.

 

[jmdajr]

Guess there will be less money in the checking account soon.

 

[Effect]

I've been trying to follow this tonight but I can't any longer. I rather not watch this in real time.

 

[AnotherNils]

That feeling is entirely warranted. You should expect a similar outcome as well.

I agree, I guess what I'm saying is this issue is that important to me personally. And the ramifications are that bad for america.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

I think the market blowback will be too quick compared to the wait for elections. By then it might be too late.

That is true. It was just a thought.

 

[maabus1999]

Headline Tomorrow: 43 million uninsured.

This is the dumbest way to get to a "conference"....and if they passed it in the House, God help people without high paying jobs with benefits.

 

[Ziltoidia 9]

The guy talking now is the smuggest peice of shit in the world.

 

[Nelo Ice]

Congrats to those who live in blue states!

I'm on medicaid and I just scheduled Doctor and dental appointments next month in CA. And I'm still sweating bullets. Fuck Republicans.

 

[sc0la]

Guess there will be less money in the checking account soon.

But you'll have a lot more freedom in it.

 

[whyamihere]

We compete in every seat next year. Every one. No Republican gets off with an unopposed race.

 

[Zolo]

"Hey. Maybe if we sneak this bill in @ midnight the blowback won't be so bad!"

 

[AnotherNils]

Biggest loser under "skinny" repeal: middle class people who buy their own insurance without subsidies and would see big premium hikes.

So this punishes the exact demographic that they said were hurt by the ACA. Brilliant.

 

[Sobriquet]

Enzi is a goddam moron

 

[B-Dubs]

So many fucking real speeches coming from the Democrats here. Holy shit.

Every single one should be used as a campaign ad next year.

Congrats to those who live in blue states!

Still far from ideal. The mandate isn't popular at all so even blue state legislatures might have pause here.

 

[Suikoguy]

So this punishes the exact demographic that they said were hurt by the ACA. Brilliant.

This assumes the market can still function next year without the mandate.

 

[Sobriquet]

So many fucking real speeches coming from the Democrats here. Holy shit.

Yep. Awesome, heartfelt stuff

 

[AnotherNils]

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However, I agree with @SenJohnMcCain that the bill on the table clearly isn’t the right approach for Arizona. 2/4

Surprise me, McCain. I dare you.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

"Hey. Maybe if we sneak this bill in @ midnight the blowback won't be so bad!"

It'll be like the house bill and they'll have a vote hangover tomorrow

"What the hell did we vote on last night"

 

[Kevinroc]

https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/890772417978806272

BREAKING: CBO Score is out! Premiums will be 20% higher in EVERY year 2018-2026 under Senate Freedom bill.

Posted this is the regular OT thread about this and I am still fucking blown away by this.

 

[sc0la]

CNN banner says 16 million by 2026 that seems wrong wouldn't most of the losses hit next year?

 

[Sobriquet]

OMFG Enzi suuuuucks. I seriously hate this guy, and this is my first exposure to him.

 

[benicillin]

It'll be like the house bill and they'll have a vote hangover tomorrow

"What the hell did we vote on last night"

Kind of like how the Iraq war vote happened.

 

[AnotherNils]

https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/890772417978806272



Posted this is the regular OT thread about this and I am still fucking blown away by this.

Freedom ain't free

 

[balladofwindfishes]

CNN banner says 16 million by 2026 that seems wrong wouldn't most of the losses hit next year?

Yea, I just saw that. I think they got confused, since everyone else says 16 million by next year

 

[whyamihere]

Enzi is the one who said that if a trans person gets beat up that's their problem for being different. So.

 

[Blader]

https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/890772417978806272



Posted this is the regular OT thread about this and I am still fucking blown away by this.

Premiums go up 20 percent *every year*?!

 

[Autodidact]

I can barely formulate words I'm so tense.

 

[sc0la]

Yea, I just saw that. I think they got confused, since everyone else says 16 million by next year

That's what I figured thanks.

Also fuck my life my first thought was "16 by 2026 *isnt that bad* "

I am becoming desensitized to catastrophic governing practices

 

[PBY]

I can barely formulate words I'm so tense.

Its passing...

just let go

 

[Plinko]

https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/890772417978806272



Posted this is the regular OT thread about this and I am still fucking blown away by this.

That tweet isn't what the CBO report means, though. They mean 20% higher than what ACA would have been.

 

[Zolo]

Its passing...

just let go

Yep. All the indicators based on history are those of something that passes. We'd usually get other signs by now if it wasn't passing like Rand saying something about a full repeal.

 

[RumbleHumble]

Enzi is the one who said that if a trans person gets beat up that's their problem for being different. So.

I muted the hearing the moment he stepped up to bat.

 

[B-Dubs]

This assumes the market can still function next year without the mandate.

It can't. You can't have a ban on preexisting conditions without the mandate, a few states have tried only to have it all fall apart on them.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Its passing...

just let go

How about we don't let it go and we keep fighting and keep hoping until the ink dries on trump's desk

How about we do that instead.

When you give up, when you lose hope, you're admitting the GOP won control over you. Never let them do that.

 

[sc0la]

That tweet isn't what the CBO report means, though. They mean 20% higher than what ACA would have been.

Yes 20% *on top* of estimated ACA increases.
Edit: a bunch of insurers have been issuing two sets of premiums for next year, one status quo and one for projected repeal. They are almost all universally 15-25% higher.

 

[Zyae]

How about we don't let it go and we keep fighting and keep hoping until the ink dries on trump's desk

How about we do that instead.

When you give up, when you lose hope, you're admitting the GOP won control over you. Never let them do that.

dude theres nothing that we can do posting on a forum right this second. This is going to pass and we are fucked until hopefully 2020. And hopefully this leads to a disaster for the GOP next year.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Yes 20% *on top* of estimated ACA increases.

We just got word at work our premiums were increasing by 11%, so next year it'd be 31%?

My company can't afford that. No company can afford that.

dude theres nothing that we can do posting on a forum right this second. This is going to pass and we are fucked until hopefully 2020

You're letting the GOP win you over. They want you to feel hopeless. Don't let them win control over you and your emotions.

 

[RumbleHumble]

dude theres nothing that we can do posting on a forum right this second. This is going to pass and we are fucked until hopefully 2020

Disagree. This forum is what re-introduced me to active politics. I wouldn't be calling and writing to my congressmen locally or otherwise if it weren't for the encouragement here.

 

[thepotatoman]

Me after catching up to this week in political news.

Tell me about it. I don't even really know what the deal is with this scaramucci guy is other than Spicer resigning over him and he apparently never stops doing bad things given the frequency of seeing his name.

There's so much to keep up on for healthcare alone to keep up on the fire at the whitehouse.

 

[Officerrob]

Pence has arrived, that says it all

 

[Kusagari]

Couldn't this lead to many companies bouncing insurance with the mandate gone?

 

[Zolo]

Pence has arrived, that says it all

Why wouldn't he have arrived? I do believe it'll pass though.

 

[Tubie]

I hope I don't get even remotely sick again or have an accident till the day I die.

 

[shem935]

Couldn't this lead to many companies bouncing insurance with the mandate gone?

Premiums are due in the next month. Insurers are making decisions right now.

 

[B-Dubs]

We just got word at work our premiums were increasing by 11%, so next year it'd be 31%?

My company can't afford that. No company can afford that.

Hell, no individual can afford that.

 

[Zyae]

We just got word at work our premiums were increasing by 11%, so next year it'd be 31%?

My company can't afford that. No company can afford that.

You're letting the GOP win you over. They want you to feel hopeless. Don't let them win control over you and your emotions.

They arent controlling me, face reality. This is most likely passing tonight, who knows what the house does. Reality is nothing will get better until 2018 at minimum.

Disagree. This forum is what re-introduced me to active politics. I wouldn't be calling and writing to my congressmen locally or otherwise if it weren't for the encouragement here.

sure but nothing you can do right now will matter

 

[balladofwindfishes]

They arent controlling me, face reality. This is most likely passing tonight, who knows what the house does. Reality is nothing will get better until 2018 at minimum.

You cope with what life deals you. Moping around feeling sorry for yourself doesn't accomplish anything.