Autodidact
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If they've really included language to persuade the Freedom Caucus, I guess we'll have to place our faith in the House's Moderate Darlings.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair
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Officerrob
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Al Franken talking to protesters at the Capital on CNN
Black Republican
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This isnt very pro life, Republicans
What are you talking about? This has nothing to do with moping. You are staring down reality in the face and acting like good feelings will do anything right at this instant. It doesnt matter if you feel good about this if it goes through.
Joe Shlabotnik
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If it's compared to the ACA then I don't think that's what it means although the phrasing is deeply confusing. It might mean if your premiums were originally going up 11% under ACA then they'd go up about 13% under this.
aspiegamer
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I am 100% confident that Trump has no fucking idea what's in this bill, or any bill this week. Or the earlier GOP bills. Or the ACA. This'll just be a nebulous "win" with no specific thing to point to as objectively "good." Someone just told him "it's the repeal bill" and it's all he needed to hear.
They stop caring about your life as soon as you are born.
Hope he enjoys his already low popularity going down more.
aspiegamer
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Duckworth on CNN says they have the votes to pass. So it's over.
Well, at least people on Medicaid and those receiving subsidies are safe for now. It's kinda ironic that the people getting screwed the most are those who whined for years about "others" getting benefits that they weren't because they made too much money. Enjoy your higher premiums!
Autodidact
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Yep. And even if they wanted to downplay it (as though they could), his crowing will handcuff the party to him and to the bill.
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thepotatoman
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Have people come up with any examples of a pre-Obama congress passing bills they secretly don't want to pass, on hopes that it'll be stopped somewhere down the line?
Republicans certainly have a lot of experience with this concept in the Obama era, and are apparently continuing this practice into the Trump era despite the very real fear of it somehow turning into law, but I don't remember this being a thing before Obama.
Republicans certainly have a lot of experience with this concept in the Obama era, and are apparently continuing this practice into the Trump era despite the very real fear of it somehow turning into law, but I don't remember this being a thing before Obama.
Officerrob
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Duckworth says she thinks they have the votes
balladofwindfishes
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I think he'll get a slight tick upwards for a bit before it goes into free fall as more and more people lose insurance over the next few months
Watch him throw another Rose Garden party
TumblingHippo
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I hope this radicalizes people farther to the left. I guess that's the only thing I can really take out of this mess. I don't want to go anywhere near the center, but I also live in a social media bubble of upset people who also hope more people get pushed to the left.
If the right is gonna play as far to the right as they can, then I want the left to go even farther, and the people in the middle to hate every moment of it.
If the right is gonna play as far to the right as they can, then I want the left to go even farther, and the people in the middle to hate every moment of it.
Prof. Bathtub
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They're a life and morality-themed political group, like how the cable networks are news-themed entertainment and Trump is a president-themed celebrity.
Can you even imagine him trying to read and understand any of it lol.
This was obvious.
ShadowSwordmaster
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I'm not going to watch this any longer now.
He doesn't even know how health insurance works. He thinks it's like a pension, where you start putting money into a fund when you're 20 and then live off it when you're 70.
balladofwindfishes
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I'm starting to think the two nos are actually McCain and Collins
CNN is still saying McCain is a no, but Murkowski's been very quiet
Which would be pretty weird
CNN is still saying McCain is a no, but Murkowski's been very quiet
Which would be pretty weird
Autodidact
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And after he all but threatened to starve her state of federal funding.
Coward.
aspiegamer
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I'm going to be super ultra pissed if Murkowski actually submits to the threats made against her.
Well, -more- ultra pissed.
Well, -more- ultra pissed.
Trump and Zinke threatened her pretty directly today. Maybe they actually got to her.
BoboBrazil
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Christopher Hayes @chrislhayes
The senator speaking right now represents 585,000 people. There are almost 1.5 million people in the Bronx.
10:41 PM · Jul 27, 2017
The senator speaking right now represents 585,000 people. There are almost 1.5 million people in the Bronx.
10:41 PM · Jul 27, 2017
If McCain votes no and Murkowski abandons us she will forever have lost moderate darling status.
Spoiled Milk
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This is a repeal and that's how it was before the healthcare law.
Autodidact
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John Milton's Moderation Lost
nintendoman58
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Honestly, the smug, self-gratifying satisfaction I'm sure some posters here who have constantly said this throughout these last few months is gonna be the second worst thing about this. You know, right next to the millions of people losing their health care.
The last thing people need right now is a bunch of smug elitists swarming the forums with posts like: "See?!? I told you! I told you!"
Yep, it's kind of ironic.
The people that make too much for medicaid, but don't make enough to afford good insurance (or their work doesn't provide good alternatives), are the ones royally screwed here.
I wonder what the Trump voters in that category think about him after this.
Cut a deal to allow McCain to vote No.
Doc Holliday
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What a gigantic clusterfuck :/
Autodidact
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No, this happened because we focused too heavily on Russia.
Yeah. McCain can still get fucked if this happens. He voted with them knowing he could afford that.
Edit: Nevermind! I'm a fucking idiot! Go McCain!
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
No--20% of that 11% would be additional, so the increase would be 13-14%.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Yeah if it passes with a McCain No it's still bullshit from him.
GoldenEye 007
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Yeah, that's all it will be. Only dumbasses would fall for that thinking McCain took a real stand here.
balladofwindfishes
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Call them out and shame them for putting their "I told you so" before the lives of thousands
I know I plan on it
Oh, that's what our increase was a few years ago. Last year it was 19% for whatever reason. It's still terrible, but it's not going to bankrupt my company
Autodidact
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Speaking of Moderate Darlings, I wonder if passage of this bill would thwart Collins's rumored gubernatorial run. Her enlightened bipartisan shtick might not be sufficient to overcome the fallout from this bill.
Thanks for this post. I've been trying to figure it out for an hour now!
That's the plan. Can't get in those bad soundbytes.
Seems like
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Nope, this happened because the GOP have the numbers, plain and simple. Every town hall was packed, and phones were dialed. Not much else the dems could do.
Autodidact
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I've known about Wyoming being a shithole since at least Matthew Shepard.
I agree. I was just trying to get PBY to like me.
I agree. I was just trying to get PBY to like me.
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