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[Plinko]

What senators were actually counted on to stand against this in previous bills?

Rand, Collins, and Murkowski.

 

[Plumbob]

YOU

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NOW

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PEOPLE

YOU

KILLED

hmm

 

[Zolo]

So was all this Scaramucci shit done on purpose to cover all this up.

I doubt it. This wouldn't have gotten much attention until details were released like previous bills anyway.

 

[RumbleHumble]

So was all this Scaramucci shit done on purpose to cover all this up.

Nah, the Scaramucci shit was just some Scaramucci shit. I know of no one who wasn't already following the healthcare debate who got thrown off by Scaramucci's crazy.

 

[Ryuuroden]

Jesus f*** a quarter of the way through the new OT already. Thanks Trump

 

[shem935]

So was all this Scaramucci shit done on purpose to cover all this up.

Really with this nonsense?

 

[Zolo]

I'm guessing there was a way to make sure this was compliant with the CBO and byrd rule while writing it?

 

[thepotatoman]

I don't know how a smart conservative wouldn't be terrified of this turning into Single payer down the road. They already can't figure out what to sell for a private market solution. And it's not like it's going to get easier after they blow up the entire private insurance market, owning it as a republican party and rhetorically destroying the only private insurance solution that made sense.

Personally, I prefer a public option, but republicans are likely to shift the country left of even that if they fail the private insurance markets this badly.

 

[XenodudeX]

So I guess they're going to nuke the filibuster then?

 

[Officerrob]

Why is the CBO score being withheld?

 

[whyamihere]

CBO SCORE LEAKED

 

[Drkirby]

So, reading the bill text directly, I'm seeing a bunch of taxes cut, and a ban on planned parenthood funding. What does the section that just stikes a bunch of paragraphs impact?

 

[FloydtheFathead]

Can someone much smarter than me tell me what those numbers mean with that cbo leak?

 

[RumbleHumble]

The image won't enlarge into something readable for me. What's the damage?

 

[GoldenEye 007]

Even with this, they have to start over on the budget and tax reform, no? Given this doesn't save any significant money. Just $400b over 10 years?

 

[benicillin]

16 mil uninsured per CBO and premiums up 20%. So what we expected.

This is literally like diving in front of a train for Trump.

 

[PBY]

The image won't enlarge into something readable for me. What's the damage?

15m uninsured next year

 

[FloydtheFathead]

16 mil uninsured per CBO and premiums up 20%. So what we expected.

This is literally like diving in front of a train for Trump.

Lovely...

 

[whyamihere]

Pretty sure Hirono is about to cry.

 

[Emerson]

16 mil uninsured per CBO and premiums up 20%. So what we expected.

This is literally like diving in front of a train for Trump.

what lol, you wouldn't dive in front of a train for Our Leader????

 

[Plinko]

16 mil uninsured per CBO and premiums up 20%. So what we expected.

This is literally like diving in front of a train for Trump.

For every GOP politician on the ballot in 2018, actually. There is absolutely nothing to cling to as a "victory" here. Premiums rise, health care costs rise, and nothing gets better.

Literally the only positive for consumers is a $2250 increase in maximum for HSAs, but that only benefits a select few. Most people don't have money to put in these.

 

[AnotherNils]

CBO SCORE LEAKED

Excuse the dumb question, but are they allowed to keep this sucker secret?

 

[HanShotFirst]

Completely impossible to answer at this level of detail.

yeah that's what I figured but I was hoping for at least a basic general prediction.

 

[Aaron Strife]

For every GOP politician on the ballot in 2018, actually. There is absolutely nothing to cling to as a "victory" here. Premiums rise, healthncare costs rise, and nothing gets better.

Yeah. It's the complete antithesis of anything that he promised.

This is fucking ridiculous. What are they accomplishing? Spitting on Obama's legacy? Obama is going to look like Lincoln compared to this fuckstick.

 

[RumbleHumble]

So many fucking real speeches coming from the Democrats here. Holy shit.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

2018 is going to be hell for these people.

 

[pigeon]

yeah that's what I figured but I was hoping for at least a basic general prediction.

Like literally there's a version of single payer where everybody gets Medicare if they want it and there's another version where the government hires all the doctors. Those are gonna have pretty different outcomes in terms of cost and result.

 

[BlastProcessing]

@mr_jamriv
We know Paul Ryan can suck his own cock because he has no spine.

 

[Plinko]

So many fucking real speeches coming from the Democrats here. Holy shit.

Record, edit, run in 2018.

 

[AnotherNils]

2018 is going to be hell for these people.

I mean, lets be honest, it'll be nerve-wracking for us too

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Yeah. It's the complete antithesis of anything that he promised.

This is fucking ridiculous. What are they accomplishing? Spitting on Obama's legacy? Obama is going to look like Lincoln compared to this fuckstick.

Any improvements in the healthcare system going forward are still going to have Obama credited as getting the ball rolling, so they're not even harming his legacy.

They're just punishing the country for daring to elect a black liberal

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

I mean, lets be honest, it'll be nerve-wracking for us too

It's going to be insanity for everyone.

 

[Zolo]

So what was that whole 'conference' with the few senators about? Did they not even know what they were talking about?

 

[RumbleHumble]

Any word about Parliamentarian ruling on defunding Planned Parenthood?

 

[kirblar]

Like literally there's a version of single payer where everybody gets Medicare if they want it and there's another version where the government hires all the doctors. Those are gonna have pretty different outcomes in terms of cost and result.

The first is UHC w a public option. The second is single payer. (The difference is that they both get called "Medicare for all" by different people)

 

[pigeon]

Any word about Parliamentarian ruling on defunding Planned Parenthood?

Until they actually get close to voting so that they can raise points of order, there won't be.

 

[HanShotFirst]

Like literally there's a version of single payer where everybody gets Medicare if they want it and there's another version where the government hires all the doctors. Those are gonna have pretty different outcomes in terms of cost and result.

Again, I'm sorry about asking for the impossible lol. So, is there any predictions of the outcome of the two plans you mentioned then?

 

[Plinko]

Margot Sanger-Katz @sangerkatz
If skinny bill became law, states that wanted to could probably circumvent market problems by passing their own coverage mandates.

Congrats to those who live in blue states!

 

[pigeon]

The first is UHC w a public option. The second is single payer. (The difference is that they both get called "Medicare for all" by different people)

Actually I was referring to a nationalized health system with the second one, but I think that just further emphasizes the point that the terms are too vague and overloaded.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

Congrats to those who live in blue states!

I wonder if this will push some red states to blue states.

 

[Tubie]

Me after catching up to this week in political news.

 

[AnotherNils]

Quite honestly, I don't think I've felt anxiety like this since election night.

 

[RumbleHumble]

Me after catching up to this week in political news.

Being away for even 30 minutes will do that in Trump's 'Merica

 

[Zolo]

The Associated Press‏ @AP

BREAKING: Congressional Budget Office says 16 million more uninsured would result from GOP's pared-down health care bill.

Republican "moderates": Well, it's still the same shit, but let's vote on it differently anyway.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Congrats to those who live in blue states!

The quality of life gap continues to grow between red and blue states...

 

[Plinko]

Lindsay Graham said Ryan again guaranteed this wouldn't be law. Sure thing, bro.

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

Congrats to those who live in blue states!

Is DC capable of doing this? My family wants to go to Maryland, but i have no idea when it'll happen.

 

[Loudninja]

Lindsay Graham said Ryan again guaranteed this wouldn't be law. Sure thing, bro.

Lol then why vote for it you dumbass?

This is such a joke.

 

[AnotherNils]

I wonder if this will push some red states to blue states.

I think the market blowback will be too quick compared to the wait for elections. By then it might be too late.

 

[Autodidact]

Lindsay Graham said Ryan again guaranteed this wouldn't be law. Sure thing, bro.

He lies.