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PoliGAF General Election Thread of Conventions (Sarah Palin McCain VP Pick)
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worldrunover
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I would have love to have seen McCain's pick if Obama went with Hillary as Veep. Something tells me it would have been different.
speculawyer
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Basch said:
Complicated? You are divorcing my sister . . . I want you FIRED! Is that complicated?
Edit: But you may have a point . . . that is complicated for GOP voters. They clearly didn't understand that having a government oil contractor do additions to Ted Steven's house is fishy. :lol
BenjaminBirdie
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gofreak said:
Actually, she said she doesn't know what the job entails. A zinger to be sure.
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AndyIsTheMoney said:
They are different roles but I would think that still means you take careful and deliberate consideration into the experience of a VP pick since Mccain can't predict the future and indeed would be the oldest president ever. One argument of the VP pick (and some would argue the sole argument) is that they are supposed to be able to step in and take over at any moment. There are arguably lots of more eligible Republicans who fit that conception at the current moment so he will need to explain what qualities she has that put her above those other considerations.
slidewinder
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This pick pretty much kills any hopes the REPs (did I do that right?) might've had. She's beautiful and all, but c'mon. Ouch, ouch, ouch.
Exactly the kind of VP nom you'd expect from a party that knew they were heading back to the well, regardless, though. Looking forward to a genuinely GOP in 2012. Fix your shit up in the meantime.
Exactly the kind of VP nom you'd expect from a party that knew they were heading back to the well, regardless, though. Looking forward to a genuinely GOP in 2012. Fix your shit up in the meantime.
BrokenFiction
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Twitter stream from a native Alaskan woman who follows Palin. Interesting perspective.
http://twitter.com/alizasherman
http://twitter.com/alizasherman
AndyIsTheMoran
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Farmboy said:
God please keep out the atheists. they arnt yet welcome in politics.
PhoenixDark
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The article posted a couple pages back kinda sums this up. McCain has always valued personal friendships and is good friends with many people on his vp list; while he wasn't friendly with Romney initially they began to warm up to each other as the process played out. Yet here he picks someone he doesn't know, and has never worked with. As John Kerry would say, this seems to be Candidate McCain (or more aptly, Candidate McCain's handlers) choosing Senator McCain's vice president.
and btw, people who think women only vote on abortion=smh. I'm more interested in seeing if she sticks to ticket line when asked about equal pay equal work. This is a the hail mary pick McCain needed, but it does undercut his message. And while Obama did the same thing by picking Biden, it was more than nessicary considering his biggest weakness was his inexperience; in short, doubling down on his negatives would have been a disaster. This seems more dangerous for McCain because he has not only undercut his message by picking an unknown with little experience (granted, she has more executive experience than anyone in the race...but she has absolutely no foreign policy experience), he has put this person a heartbeat away from the presidency. Voters feel McCain's age is an issue already, how will this pick play out to people?
and btw, people who think women only vote on abortion=smh. I'm more interested in seeing if she sticks to ticket line when asked about equal pay equal work. This is a the hail mary pick McCain needed, but it does undercut his message. And while Obama did the same thing by picking Biden, it was more than nessicary considering his biggest weakness was his inexperience; in short, doubling down on his negatives would have been a disaster. This seems more dangerous for McCain because he has not only undercut his message by picking an unknown with little experience (granted, she has more executive experience than anyone in the race...but she has absolutely no foreign policy experience), he has put this person a heartbeat away from the presidency. Voters feel McCain's age is an issue already, how will this pick play out to people?
I'm not just talking about assassinations. VP candidates are picked on their ability to take control of the office which Palin doesn't characterize very well at all. It's clearly a reach for some women votes--which will work. Otherwise, she really doesn't bring much to the table at all.AndyIsTheMoney said:
AndyIsTheMoran
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speculawyer said:
he was a wife beater
speculawyer said:
Fixed. Heard he was abusive.
Regarding Palin, people can talk about inexperience of Obama all they want but he earned his spot on the ticket and runs a nationwide organization staffed by hundreds of people in all 50 state.
Palin would not have had any shot of winning her party's nomination. She has no apparent qualities or achievements that would justify making her VP or President.
Shockgamer
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So basically, they're giving women a boobie prize.
devildog820
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The Palin pick is a reactionary move.
That stuff in about her brother-in-law will get nasty.
That stuff in about her brother-in-law will get nasty.
ViperVisor
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Farmboy said:
Tyrone Slothrop
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i don't think that state trooper thing is scandalous enough. unfortunately.
Ya, except the point is that wasn't what I was saying. Were you even alive back then?pxleyes said:
I think that just like the comments from Hillary re: "anything can happen"--including assassination--such comments can easily backfire even if just winked to. Pundit-wise this could actually make people more creeped out about implying things based on McCain's age (but who knows really).gofreak said:
adamsappel
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And it might lose some female voters elsewhere. "Poor Bambi!"AndyIsTheMoney said:
Schattenjäger
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speculawyer
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AndyIsTheMoney said:
What a completely offensive statement that should earn you a ban if GAF was as 'anti-Christian' as you think it is. Just imagine if you said:
God please keep out the Jews. they arnt yet welcome in politics
God please keep out the blacks. they arnt yet welcome in politics
God please keep out the homos. they arnt yet welcome in politics
God please keep out the moo-slims. they arnt yet welcome in politics
God please keep out the mexicans. they arnt yet welcome in politics
etc.
Takeda Kenshi
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schuelma said:
Fuck you read my mind, was just about to type this.
AndyIsTheMoran
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OuterWorldVoice said:
obvioulsy but it garners support for her action
FitzOfRage
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Azrael said:
Not that we need to go back and start debating 1992 again, but the exit polls didn't support that idea. Clinton and Bush were tied at about 40% as the 2nd choice among Perot voters, though close to 60% said the country would be better off if every single incumbent was replaced that year. Also, they voted overwhelmingly for Democratic governors and split on congressional races in almost equal numbers.
Steve Youngblood
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Like who? The ones that were already being way too vocal at the convention (the so-called PUMAs)? I don't think getting them was anywhere near enough to make this call. If Obama was so worried about them, he would have just gone ahead and made Hillary the VP.RiZ III said:
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Farmboy said:
Man, this gets better and better (for us)
It's not like McCain could actually find anyone pro-science though. Mittens does the Mormon thing, and all the rest of his picks are plain garden-variety ID fundies.
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