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[RubxQub]

It is rather disconcerting that the media doesn't even mention Sebelius ever, but I still think she's definitely on Obama's real shortlist, not this fake-ass list the media touts.

 

[grandjedi6]

Ron Paul is going to be pissed

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

CONFIRMED BITCHES!

Agreed, Sebelius is much more accomplished than Obama for crying out loud!

 

[GhaleonEB]

Obama/Sebelius ticket turns the TV morons into saying, "OOOOOOH, BUT WHY NOT HILLARY?! WHAT WILL HER VOTERS THIIIINK!?"

For a little while. Just like the "hillary for veep" died down a few weeks after the primary. It goes in waves.

 

[JayDubya]

Ron Paul is going to be pissed

Paul wears it with a badge of honor.

 

[Tamanon]

"John McCain says he would follow Osama Bin Laden to the Gates of Hell, he should just go get him in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where we should've done so in the first place!":lol

 

[GhaleonEB]

"John McCain says he would follow Osama Bin Laden to the Gates of Hell, he should just go get him in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where we should've done so in the first place!":lol

Yeah, he's on fire right now. The crowd is whipped into a frenzy.

 

[Tamanon]

Obama is on fire, we're seeing a bit of anger rising in him now. I like it.

 

[RubxQub]

Obama/Kaine?
Obama/Clark?
Obama/Biden?
Obama/Bayh?

No...

Obama/Sebelius

Two funny names, one black man, one white women. One young, one old. One with a fresh new perspective, one with loads of experience and a good head on their shoulders.

You don't any "changier" than that.

 

[VanMardigan]

Agreed, Sebelius is much more accomplished than Obama for crying out loud!

Most of the others on the short list are as well.

 

[Door2Dawn]

Obama is on fire, we're seeing a bit of anger rising in him now. I like it.

Well hes floundering in the polls,I would be pretty mad too.

 

[worldrunover]

Every potential VP pick will have endless bickering one way or another.

Sebelius?! Why not HRC?!

Biden?! But he has hair plugs and voted for the war!

Bayh?! He voted for the war too!

Kaine!? Too inexperienced!

Clinton?! *Abrams' Head Explodes*

Richardson!? But he's brown!

Clark!? He thinks John McCain faked his POW status!


This is most likely why Obama is waiting until the last possible minute. Ut won't matter, there will be blowback by EVERYONE at SOME POINT.

 

[Tamanon]

What a weird opening question. "How will you change the word retardation?"

 

[RubxQub]

What a weird opening question. "How will you change the word retardation?"

Obama nailed the opening by complimenting the mother on being a good mother.

She's clearly very emotional about everything, and she's already got her guard down because Obama complimented her directly.

Awesome stuff.

Edit: Obama knows his shit...serifs and shit...goddam

 

[TheGrayGhost]

Obama is on fire, we're seeing a bit of anger rising in him now. I like it.

Link? I want to see!

 

[scorcho]

thank god it's not Biden.

i say he'll go Bloomberg and, together, they'll create an effective mass transit policy and super wide bike lanes.

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

Obama/Kaine?
Obama/Clark?
Obama/Biden?
Obama/Bayh?

No...

Obama/Sebelius

Two funny names, one black man, one white women. One young, one old. One with a fresh new perspective, one with loads of experience and a good head on their shoulders.

You don't any "changier" than that.

I'd rather lose with Sebelius then win with those other guys... There's no one closer to Obama philosophy than she.

 

[RubxQub]

Link? I want to see!

http://www.barackobama.com/live/index.php

 

[Tamanon]

Link? I want to see!

http://www.barackobama.com/live/index.php

He's done with the opening remarks and is now answering questions.

 

[tanod]

I actually like Obama's new populist tact he's taking in this opening, the way of painting the negative campaigning as feeding on the cynicism of people in the government.

Which is a strategy that worked really well against Hillary when he had time to introduce himself and the kind of campaign he runs. People forget that the only reason why Hillary won so many of those later states is that Obama stopped campaigning against Hillary and she found a consistent message that matched her background and started to connect with voters. It's not because she went scorched earth (measured by Democratic party standards) and I think the Republicans will realize that come October/November when McCain's favorability numbers are in the gutter.



I'm still convinced that it's either Biden or Clark for VP.

Obama will not pick Sebellius, Kaine or Bayh. For the simple reason that the campaign is spending enough money introducing one new person to the national stage. They don't need to spend money or time on introducing two.

I hope it's Romney for VP but I think Ridge or Pawlenty is more likely.

 

[worldrunover]

thank god it's not Biden.

i say he'll go Bloomberg and, together, they'll create an effective mass transit policy and super wide bike lanes.

:lol Those bike lanes ARE annoying. But Bloomberg would be a nice moderate/economist kind of balance to the ticket.

 

[tanod]

This is most likely why Obama is waiting until the last possible minute. Ut won't matter, there will be blowback by EVERYONE at SOME POINT.

Doubt it. Not announcing the VP until Friday guarantees that the Obama campaign will have control over the media message all week. The less publicity for McCain, the better, and the more stupid things McCain has to do to grab attention. This is especially so since McCain has started shitting on his press corps, and they used to drool all over him.

 

[Tamanon]

:lol Those bike lanes ARE annoying. But Bloomberg would be a nice moderate/economist kind of balance to the ticket.

It sounds like Bloomberg oddly enough is going to be a ticket with Ron Paul on Virginia's ballots. I have no idea why.

 

[RubxQub]

Home-training sounds like your teaching your kids to pee outside or some shit :lol

 

[Tamanon]

Politicization of science?

IN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION? BIZARRE!

 

[scorcho]

quiet you. the CNN.com feed is a bit slower than Obama's.

 

[polyh3dron]

Clark!? He thinks John McCain faked his POW status!

BULLSHIT, show me proof.

Sebelius?! Why not HRC?!

Obama is allowed to pick whatever male candidate he wants, but the only female who is ok for him to pick is HRC who SHITTED on him in the primaries and ran one of the most divisive campaigns EVER? Besides, Sebelius is more qualified than HRC. Ruling her out due to her being female is RIDICULOUSLY sexist. It's way more sexist than anything that happened during the primaries that HRC and company falsely attributed to sexism.

 

[RubxQub]

I love Obama's quick jabs at Bush and McCain :lol

 

[VanMardigan]

Barrack the comedian!!

"drill here, drill there!!"
:lol

 

[tanod]

Barrack the comedian!!

"drill here, drill there!!"
:lol

This speech should get a lot of coverage tomorrow.

Also, I was really impressed with what Obama said at the VFW today. To me, it read like a foreign policy version of his awesome race speech earlier this year.

 

[TDG]

I actually like Obama's new populist tact he's taking in this opening, the way of painting the negative campaigning as feeding on the cynicism of people in the government.

yeah, it's not "media-catchy," but it's a good message. he's on fire today. :lol

Obama/Sebelius ticket turns the TV morons into saying, "OOOOOOH, BUT WHY NOT HILLARY?! WHAT WILL HER VOTERS THIIIINK!?"

Exactly. That's why she's a risky choice, I don't know why everyone is ignoring this. It'll be seen by many as rubbing it in that hillary lost.

So.. that's the media

:lol
Are there ANY reasons not to pick Sebelius, in your mind?

 

[RubxQub]

Obama's Viagra reference:

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

.....

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[Tamanon]

:lol Pharmaceutical ads.

"You don't know what the drug's for, except for that one ad, you know what that one's for."

 

[RubxQub]

President Obama'd

Edit: Oh shit, VP question

 

[Tamanon]

Veep question! SO SNEAKY!

 

[siamesedreamer]

Experience gap and no Biden? Tsk...tsk

 

[Frank the Great]

DO IT

 

[RubxQub]

Another VP "he's" reference. He he he he he

 

[TDG]

That's a good question. I like it when people come to these things and actually ask informed questions.

 

[nataku]

"He won't be..."

 

[TDG]

Rather losing than not having Selebius? That is fucked up logic.

No kidding.

http://www.washburn.edu/cas/art/cyoho/archive/Events/WAWhite/GovSebelius.jpg[IMG]

DO IT[/QUOTE]
Hmph, sounds like Obama doesn't want a yes woman. He wants a smart man. (he keeps say he)

EDIT: To clarify, the point is that he doesn't want a yes man, and the point people keep making in favor of Sebelius is that she shares most of his opinions. The point isn't that she isn't smart.

 

[Cheebs]

I'd rather lose with Sebelius then win with those other guys... There's no one closer to Obama philosophy than she.

Rather losing than not having Selebius? That is fucked up logic.

 

[tanod]

DO IT

ugh no.

Also, Sebellius is a woman so it should be "her", not "it".

 

[Lv99 Slacker]

Okay. Now it's really official: Rachel is getting a show on MSNBC. She will be on at 9pm following Countdown 5 nights a week starting September 8.

Source.

 

[Tamanon]

He probably didn't say "he or she" just so there wouldn't be a thirty minute segment on "Hillary back in the mix?":lol

 

[GhaleonEB]

I missed the veep question and answer. What did he say?

 

[TDG]

I feel a videogames jab coming...

Ghaleon: He doesn't want a Cheney (who will run everything,) he doesn't want a yes man, etc. Also: "He."

 

[Tamanon]

I missed the veep question and answer. What did he say?

The usual, wants someone that believes as he does, that won't be taking over like Cheney did, and that can be President.

 

[RubxQub]

I missed the veep question and answer. What did he say?

The question was "How will you use your VP"

The answer was "He will be used for this. This is what I expect of him. He'd better be able to do blah..."

So many wrong h-words

 

[AniHawk]

The question was "How will you use your VP"

The answer was "He will be used for this. This is what I expect of him. He'd better be able to do blah..."

So many wrong h-words

I really don't think it means anything.