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PoliGAF Thread of Republican's Turn at Conventions (Palin VP - READ OP)
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Stoney Mason
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delirium said:
They should be beaten for just that name and I love funk music.
King_Slender
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delirium said:
We need YouTube comparisons of how the arrests were covered on CNN vs. Fox News. CNN cuts to some reporter saying basically "A few, and were talking only a FEW of the protesters got out of line and it should be noted that there have been FAR worse conflicts with the police in this country" accompanied by a video of basically a bunch of people and one guy just clowning around throwing of gang signs or something harmless.
Here are the videos each station is using in their coverage of the protests. Now who's being more honest:
CNN coverage:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/09/01/vo.rnc.protest.pepper.spray.cnn
Fox News coverage:
http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html
(Anarchists vs. Police link at bottom)
King_Slender
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numble said:
Michigan
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things are back to normal already?Tamanon said:
should he not wait for Hanna and Ike?
Xisiqomelir
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BenjaminBirdie said:
As a resident of Scottsdale, I would be more than happy to have it ended.
[Mr. Burns finishes watching a Kent Brockman story on Frank Grimes]
MR. BURNS: That's the kind of man I need in my team, Smithers. A real scrapper. A self-made man like me! Bring this Grimes fellow to me. I want to make him my executive vice-president.
MR. SMITHERS: Yes, sir.
[THE NEXT DAY]
MR. BURNS: Smithers, I've just seen the most heroic dog on television. It pulled a toddler from the path of a speeding car and pushed a criminal in front of it. Find this dog. I want to make him my executive vice-president.
MR. SMITHERS: Uh, yes, sir. I..In the meantime, here's Frank Grimes...
FRANK: [Extends hand]
MR. BURNS: [Blank stare]
FRANK: [Clears throat, retracts hand]
MR. SMITHERS: ...the self-made man...
MR. BURNS: What? Oh yes, that fellow. Just put him somewhere out of the way and find that dog!
MR. SMITHERS: Yes, sir.
WickedAngel
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Gaborn, that's the sort of thing I was getting at when I said that everyone who disagrees with Obama shouldn't be considered a racist. I know that there are fundamental stances of his that you simply disagree with and you're fully capable of defining and outlining them as needed.
As you mention, he's got "something" that people respond to and I'm struggling to figure out what it is. He's hip deep in support of several issues that should outright destroy him (If the current political climate is to be taken into account). What is it that he has that would protect him from the backlash of both his initial support of the war, his longstanding insistence that we should stay in the war, and his inability to find a solid platform by which to address the fact that the Iraqis want us out of the war? Those stances alone should be more than enough to raise doubt against his judgment and foreign policy "experience" (As vaguely as that term seems to be used nowadays).
As you mention, he's got "something" that people respond to and I'm struggling to figure out what it is. He's hip deep in support of several issues that should outright destroy him (If the current political climate is to be taken into account). What is it that he has that would protect him from the backlash of both his initial support of the war, his longstanding insistence that we should stay in the war, and his inability to find a solid platform by which to address the fact that the Iraqis want us out of the war? Those stances alone should be more than enough to raise doubt against his judgment and foreign policy "experience" (As vaguely as that term seems to be used nowadays).
mckmas8808
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Ed Schultz is talking about Sarah Palin RIGHT NOW on CNN!!
Link648099
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WickedAngel said:
Wat
WickedAngel
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Link648099 said:
His stance on the withdrawal time line as it pertains to the Iraqi occupation.
WickedAngel said:
I think that the US values good stories, and while Obama's story is great, McCain's connects to a lot of still surviving veterans of different wars. That's probably a lot of what it is, as vapid and empty as it seems on many levels. That's why Eisenhower and Teddy Roosevelt and Grant, Andrew Jackson and even William Henry Harrison became president, at least in part. the US historically loves war heroes above all and relates to them very well.
People forget I think just how many veterans there are still in the US (referring to past wars here, not even our current conflicts), and that most of them still have families and it adds a bit to a candidate, again, fairly or not.
mckmas8808
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BITCHES, she is getting crushed on CNN! :lol :lol :lol :lol
The news update on troopergate is annoying. The audio they were discussing from Troopergate has been available for the last day or two online on the official Alaska website. I'm not sure why CNN and others haven't taken the time to listen to it or play any of the tape. If the internet is going to be so much faster at discovering information, CNN should just have people paid to constantly browse news aggregators, reddit, digg etc.
Link648099
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I recognize Obama's ideals and all, but I guarantee you he's not crying over the treatment she's getting.delirium said:
Stoney Mason
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delirium said:
I do have great sympathy for the daughter. She didn't ask for any of this.
King_Slender
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mckmas8808 said:
About Palin's experience? Wait, how is Obama more experienced than Palin again?
Fragamemnon
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Bush is speaking to the RNC tomorrow probably in an attempt to preserve his legacy or some nonsense. Looks like day 2 of the RNC is going to be about as bad as day 1 was for the GOP.
I hope all this shit blows up in their face big time if anything this is showing that the Palin family is like the average American family in many regards and face alot of the same issues.
It amuses me to no end though how many are hypocrits though. When Chelsea Clinton was ridiculed and laughed at the Democrats had major fits and screamed and yelled about how children were off limits.
Funny enough the stuff about Chelsea stopped very fast. You have the Candidate of the Opposition party saying if you support me you wont do this shit and people still go on and on and continue to smear Bristol Palin.
It amuses me to no end though how many are hypocrits though. When Chelsea Clinton was ridiculed and laughed at the Democrats had major fits and screamed and yelled about how children were off limits.
Funny enough the stuff about Chelsea stopped very fast. You have the Candidate of the Opposition party saying if you support me you wont do this shit and people still go on and on and continue to smear Bristol Palin.
Man the dems are shooting themselves in the foot on larry king bringing up this baby thing over and over. Drop this non-issue, stop sounding like smug jackasses, and go after the issues that really matter (as in pretty much every other thing that has popped up about Palin in the last 72 hours).
King_Slender
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Fragamemnon said:
Bush will keep it on point - great GOP gubernatorial leadership during Gustav, learning from the mistakes of Katrina, and praising McCain for pushing the surge in Iraq.
Unlike Jimmy Carter, they won't have to play a video of him and quickly shuffle him on and off stage, lest he throw out some anti-Semitic remarks.
SouthernDragon
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King_Slender said:
Obama's making the case for judgment. McCain is the one that tried to make this all about experience.
That's why it's so weird for McCain to pick Palin, regardless of whether she's more experienced than Obama. By objective standards, she doesn't have much experience. 20 months as Governor, 2 years as major of a small town.
Was it 2 years? If I'm wrong, correct me.
Link648099
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CNN is probably calling the shots more than they are. Remember, what makes news, makes money. Everything Palin is news...bad news for repubs, good money for CNN.Jak140 said:
King_Slender
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Jak140 said:
No shit - all this is doing is making Palin appear more and more like your average American Mom, which is her appeal in the first place (ability to be the President, aside).
Can you imagine the furor is Fox News ran all day with "The rumors of Obama being a Muslim - is it something we should discuss or not."
mj1108 said:
ED: "What kind of mother is she?"
Women on Panel: "wow"
"whoa"
Woman backing Palin:"So every person out there who has a unwanted pregnancy in their family is a result of bad mothering? Wow"
ED:"Dont tell me she's a role model"
"Most professional gardeners have a really nice yard, most professional gardeners have cut their own yards, it seems to me they have some trouble in their backyard"
Woman backing Palin:"I dont think they look @ it that way this is a young daughter who made a mistake who is duh duh duh gonna marry the the the father of the baby.
Ed laid the smackdown, bunch of spinning.
EDIT:I personally feel its a issue, not so much that the daughter is pregnant but how Palin was consistent on "No sex ed. no contraceptives, abstinence until marriage"
Sure its a mistake that she got pregnant, but come on what are the chances that she only had sex once? Now rumors that there are pictures of the daughter drinking...
Reminds me of the whole preacher daughter scenario's. By all means you cant control your kid fully, but when your parents are in a position of power you;d think you;d be more careful, and if Palin knew her daughter was pregnant liong ago, should she have talked about these things the way she did or just come out ahead of time and said her daughter is pregnant keeping her from this situation.
My wife is following this as well and was upset Obama didnt pick Hilary but was shocked about the Palin pick and kinda liked her(mother reasons) but after hearing several things and this fiasco she lol@Palin.
does the GOP have an email contact straight to your inbox? i'd almost think you're being paid except you're not using 'maverick' enough.King_Slender said:
next up - Palin's understanding about Alaskan oil politics somehow makes her an energy 'expert'.
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