WickedAngel
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Duke Togo said:
It was less about sidestepping and more about diving out of the way of a bus.
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PoliGAF Thread of Republican's Turn at Conventions (Palin VP - READ OP)
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It was less about sidestepping and more about diving out of the way of a bus.
adamsappel
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scorcho said:
I agree with masud. She chose political gain over the shitstorm that she had to have known would hit her daughter. That's a selfish decision for a mother to make. And I think it was a poor political decision for her to put the Republican nominee through it, also. From the McCain camp's statements, it really doesn't sound like she told them about it before accepting the offer. Maybe the staff didn't explicitly ask her about potential problems, but that points to a further dysfunction of the campaign.masud said:
And I actually like Palin. I think she unqualified now, and has made some political missteps, but I don't think she's inherently corrupt. You still earn political cred for having been asked. If she completed her term, and ran for reelection or for the Senate, she would be a very formidable choice for 2012.
I feel sorry for kids right now, who are going to reflect badly on their parents who have such high aspirations, or themselves when they yearn for lofty goals, when their MySpace pages and AIM chatlogs become political fodder.
Fragamemnon
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I am not sure if that spot on her face is a microphone or some budding evil appendage you get when you join the cult of christian fascism.
speculawyer
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Gruco said:
Yeah . . . that turned out really well. Let's do it again!
PantherLotus
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Arde5643 said:
holy shit, when he's on, he's on.
Tyrone Slothrop
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Schattenjagger said:
this.
where is everybody getting vp replacement from?? pfft.
Stoney Mason said:Perhaps unfortunately libel cases are difficult to win in America because the statement must have been published knowing it to be false or with reckless disregard to its truth, (also known as actual malice) which is very difficult to prove from what I've always been told. The laws are different in England where I hear it is easier to win a case on that issue.
And with that I'm going to bed. Very entertaining day.
Hence why I wonder if it's possible at all. =/
Schattenjagger said:
Let's start with the troopergate ethics violation investigation and then move on to the fact that she has zero foreign policy experience, she left the town of 8,000 she was mayor of $20 million in debt, she was a member of the Anti-American Alaskan Independence party and addressed them as governor in 2008, she laughed at a cancer surviving senator being called a "bitch" and a "cancer," her lie about not supporting the bridge to nowhere when in reality she supported it until she realized Alaska would have to pay for some of it and it wouldn't be a federal government handout, and the clincher--the fact that John McCain only met her once before choosing her as his VP.
How does it reflect on McCain's judgment if he chose a VP who is under ethics investigation and whom he only met once before picking her? Even if she does turn out to be innocent, there is no way for McCain to know that, yet he chose to put our country at the risk of having a corrupt VP elected into office.
Tyrone Slothrop said:
If I had to guess, I would guess that she'll go all the way. However, the fact that we, internet scum, the media general, and GOP strategists are all discussing this, is an event in itself.
After eight years of eating Neocon bullshit, believe me, I am ready to enjoy this delicious sorbet, even if there's no main course to follow.
Dartastic said:
They're already back. They both ran episodes from Tuesday through Friday of last week. Check the sites or Hulu.com.
As for Carville, in all of his appearances on Meet the Press over this past year, that was probably the first time he put forth some valid points. Olympia Snowe is certainly a better alternative than the other Republican female name that gets tossed around, Kay Bailey Hutchinson.
Sir Alemeth
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We're supposed to be for women's rights, so I don't think it's cool to bash her daughter's pregnancy. It's her choice as a woman, she can do whatever she wants really. And besides, that's her family, we really should leave them alone.
I think we should get back on Palin's qualifications.
I think we should get back on Palin's qualifications.
soul creator
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Lux Aeternae FTW (for anyone who needs a summary of the initial announcement reactions
Schattenjäger
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you seem to be reaching a little bit..Jak140 said:
like i said earlier - do not underestimate the GOP strategists..from what i understand, McCain wanted Lieberman or Romney
didnt Biden have some sort of scandal with Countrywide or something??
Fragamemnon
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Hitokage said:
true, but it sounds like "islamofascism" which thanks to dudes like Michael Weiner is totally overplayed at this point. There's also no ambiguity to it-they are totalitarians serving their interpretations of Christ's teachings and prayer-divined instructions.
speculawyer
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Actually, it is closer to 1/10 that about. As of 2003, the number of girls UNDER 18 that gave birth was about 140,000laserbeam said:
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2006/09/12/USTPstats.pdf
Do you just make this shit up like ComputerNerd?
PantherLotus
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Ironically, the two most qualified VP candidates that McCain wanted (Lieberman or Ridge) were rejected by the party because they had centrist views on abortion rights.
We still have a ways to go, but its funny to see what a party that wins by using irrelevant social wedge issues does to secure its more and more irrelevant base. The Right will soon find, as they are starting to already, that the Christian Conservative base is not nearly as well-knit and homogeneous as they would have you believe.
If you pick a candidate for all the wrong reasons (secure the base!), you potentially alienate the middle of the pack voters that vote based on important things, like economic policy and foreign relations.
We still have a ways to go, but its funny to see what a party that wins by using irrelevant social wedge issues does to secure its more and more irrelevant base. The Right will soon find, as they are starting to already, that the Christian Conservative base is not nearly as well-knit and homogeneous as they would have you believe.
If you pick a candidate for all the wrong reasons (secure the base!), you potentially alienate the middle of the pack voters that vote based on important things, like economic policy and foreign relations.
Smiles and Cries
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holy shitArde5643 said:
TheGrayGhost
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PantherLotus said:
Where did he hold up the picture?
Schattenjagger said:
Dude, picking a VP with no foreign policy experience, who doesn't even have a position on Iraq, that you've met once is reckless, period. Picking one that could be indicted days before the election is downright irresponsible.
McCain is running to be President, the thought of someone who makes decisions like this getting anywhere near the highest office in the land is scary.
speculawyer
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750,000 got rounded up to 1 million? I see.laserbeam said:
750,000 is 'teen' pregnancy which is up to 19 . . . that's why I emphasized 'UNDER 18'. (Your post said 'underaged' and that is generally viewed as 18 in this country since that is when you can vote & join the military.)
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That girl in the bottom right in the CNN video could get bukkaked live on CNN and still have that dumb smile on her face.
Stoney Mason
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TheGrayGhost said:
Can somebody please photoshop the text Owned! on that pic so I can use it in any thread. Thx.
Ignatz Mouse
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Ether_Snake said:
I hated her and felt sorry for her all at once. it must suck to have your job be to bald-faced lie like that.
BoboBrazil
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That Michelle Bachtmann lady has a batshit crazy look in her eyes and a joker smile the whole damn segment.
Ignatz Mouse said:
That's the thing. There is no statute that says you should lie to uphold the party line. I have much more respect for politicians who can just suck it up and admit things aren't all sunshine and roses all the time. The truth isn't a collection of things you admit. It's the truth.
Shit, I called this outright, days ago. Before pulling King_Slender's punk card afterwards.Fatalah said:
Today's events have played out even better than I ever could have hoped. Gustav dials down and the Repubs are in complete disarray. Thank you, Lord.
BoboBrazil
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greepoman said:
Guess they canned Phelps eh? He was supposed to host...
Arrowgigantic
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I think that's a rerun. There's also an ad for Michael Phelps hosting the season premier Sep. 13th.Hitokage said:
Arrowgigantic
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I'm sure she'll be on the 13th. You know she would want to.Hitokage said:
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