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PoliGAF Thread of Republican's Turn at Conventions (Palin VP - READ OP)

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Jak140

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MThanded said:
http://www.andrys.com/palin-kilkenny.html

READ this. Even if you don't know how to read stare at the screen for a really long time.

You missed the most damning stuff:

ABOUT SARAH PALIN

I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992.
Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a
first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her
father was my child's favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a
first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more
City Council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the
residents of the city.

She is enormously popular; in every way she’s like the most popular
girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice and
won't vote for her can't quit smiling when talking about her because
she is a "babe".

It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She
kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents
for seven months.


She is "pro-life". She recently gave birth to a Down's syndrome baby.
There is no cover-up involved, here; Trig is her baby.

She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym.

She is savvy. She doesn't take positions; she just "puts things out
there" and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.


[...]

She's smart.

Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000
(at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about
670,000 residents.

During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running
this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been
pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had
gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had
given rise to a recall campaign.


Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”. During her 6
years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over
33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the
City increased by 38%.
This was during a period of low inflation
(1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a
regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she
promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they
benefited residents.


The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration
weren’t enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed
money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it
with indebtedness of over $22 million.
What did Mayor Palin encourage
the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said
she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a
new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a
multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece
of property that the City didn’t even have clear title to, that was
still in litigation 7 yrs later
--to the delight of the lawyers
involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the
community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it
would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that
could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.

While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office
redecorated more than once.

These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.

As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus
in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will
make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she
proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state.

In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she
recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while
she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today's
surplus, borrow for needs.

She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas
or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t generated by
her or her staff. Ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits, but on the
basis of who proposed them.


While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected
City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from
the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents
rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin's
attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew
her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the
Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.

Sarah complained about the “old boy’s club” when she first ran for
Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of "old boys". Palin
fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as
Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people,
creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally
grateful and fiercely loyal--loyal to the point of abusing their power
to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the
case of pressuring the State’s top cop (see below).


As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla’s Police Chief because he “intimidated”
her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska's top
cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure
and she had every legal right to fire him, but it's pretty clear that
an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn't
fire her sister's ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation
for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen
contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she
later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to
replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded
for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew
her support.

She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in
help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town
introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council
became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She
abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn’t
like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.


Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything
publicly about her.

When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got
the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one
of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no
background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great
job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the
high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the
structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this
Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party)
engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move which some
undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all
her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and
garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a
gutsy fighter against the “old boys’ club” when she dramatically quit,
exposing this man’s ethics violations (for which he was fined).


As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from
Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel
politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the “bridge to
nowhere” after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.


As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget
guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing
projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative
action restored most of these projects--which had been vetoed simply
because she was not aware of their importance--but with the unobservant
she had gained a reputation as “anti-pork”.


She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party
leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated
them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a
fiscal conservative.

Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah.
They call her “Sarah Barracuda” because of her unbridled ambition and
predatory ruthlessness.
Before she became so powerful, very ugly
stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made
point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah's
mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and
experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.


As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together of package
of legislation known as “AGIA” that forced the oil companies to march
to the beat of her drum.

Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife
Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to
global warming. She campaigned “as a private citizen” against a state
initiaitive that would have either a) protected salmon streams from
pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the
state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State’s
lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior’s decision to list polar
bears as threatened species.

McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President; Sarah will be a
heartbeat away from being President.

There has to be literally millions of Americans who are more
knowledgeable and experienced than she.

However, there’s a lot of people who have underestimated her and are
regretting it.
 

FightyF

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BoboBrazil said:
Wow, Michelle Bachmann. WARNING DO NOT SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT PALIN AT ALL. SHE IS A WOMAN. She has no foreign experience. SHE IS A WOMAN. She is not ready to be vice president. SHE IS A WOMAN. She wanted Alaska to succede from the US. SHE IS A WOMAN. Blah blah blah on and on. And if you do say anything negative against her it is sexist...

People will eat it up. It appeals to their emotions, not their minds. Obviously a person's credentials should matter most.

But she's a woman with 5 kids and worked oh so hard and she can be the next Vice President of the United States!

*sniff* I think I'll do the right thing and make her dreams come true and break down that glass ceiling once and for all!
 
laserbeam said:
The Levee System has been fucked up since LBJ put things in motion after Betsy. A project started in 1965 was to finally finish in 2008. Thats how bad Government dragged its feet. Current Administration got left with shit from many prior administrations.

Johnson and every president after him is to blame.

In Betsy's aftermath, President Lyndon B. Johnson — like President Bush — pledged to rebuild New Orleans and make it safe from hurricanes. Little more than a month after the storm, Congress gave the corps $85 million to build a Category 3 hurricane levee system.

By 1976, though, the Government Accountability Office found the completion date for the work had slipped 13 years, from 1978 to 1991. Costs had soared to $352 million. By 1982, the GAO found that the project's cost had increased to $757 million and the agency said the work would not get done by 2008.

What happened? By 1968, a Congress worn down by the Vietnam war and economic turmoil began reining in spending; at the same time, the work met resistance from Louisiana politicians, communities, environmentalists and businesses fighting for individual interests.

Its sad man. I have only been in this class for 2 weeks but I have already learned so much. But, I don't know if I will ever be able to use this information with this political climate (will actual levee reform happen in my lifetime?!).

I don't understand where the anti-infrastructure movement began in American politics. Now we have bridges collapsing in Minnesota and levees breaking in Louisiana. It costs so much more to rebuild them than repair them to meet government guidelines. Doesn't make much fiscal (or moral) sense if that was the reasoning.
 

Slurpy

*drowns in jizz*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EljL927IMSA&feature=related

I think I lost half my braincells from watching that. THAT is a presidential candidate? I'm sorry, but in terms of any genuine attempt to answer questions, that was pitiful.
With all due respect to what he's done in the past, how can an objective, rational individual compare how Obama/McCain speak and still support McCain as President? It has nothing to do with speaking skills.. it has everything to do with McCain not making any fucking sense on anything, beyond a random collage of nonsensical rhetoric and talking points. These 2 nominees are on a completely different level of mental awareness and critical thinking. And is it just me, or has he adopted EVERY SINGLE ONE of Obama's themes? (Change, hope, judgement, business as usual, kitchen tables, etc)
 

Evlar

Banned
I'm actually a little nervous about what would happen if McCain/Palin did get elected. Maybe this is just FUD and she's more capable than she's been portrayed, but...
 

laserbeam

Banned
The Crimson Blur said:
Its sad man. I have only been in this class for 2 weeks but I have already learned so much. But, I don't know if I will ever be able to use this information with this political climate (will actual levee reform happen in my lifetime?!).

I don't understand where the anti-infrastructure movement began in American politics. Now we have bridges collapsing in Minnesota and levees breaking in Louisiana. It costs so much more to rebuild them than repair them to meet government guidelines. Doesn't make much fiscal (or moral) sense if that was the reasoning.

There is certainly greed invovled for the construction companies. They get promised a big check to use to build the object so they do all the corner cutting they can to get excess cash that vanishes.

There isnt enough accountability. We should have a Government Office that is overseeing these projects every step of the way so we know every step of the way the best damn job is being done. Government has gotten too good at throwing money around without caring how its being used.

Contractors are building homes in New Orleans now that are 13 feet below sea level promising people everything is just fine. Government should step in and stop future growth of the city in regions that are by their very nature dangerous.
 

Evlar

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laserbeam said:
There is certainly greed invovled for the construction companies. They get promised a big check to use to build the object so they do all the corner cutting they can to get excess cash that vanishes.

There isnt enough accountability. We should have a Government Office that is overseeing these projects every step of the way so we know every step of the way the best damn job is being done. Government has gotten too good at throwing money around without caring how its being used.
That right there.
 
BoboBrazil said:
Wow, Michelle Bachmann. WARNING DO NOT SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT PALIN AT ALL. SHE IS A WOMAN. She has no foreign experience. SHE IS A WOMAN. She is not ready to be vice president. SHE IS A WOMAN. She wanted Alaska to succede from the US. SHE IS A WOMAN. Blah blah blah on and on. And if you do say anything negative against her it is sexist...

McCain/Palin 08: She is a WOMAN, He was POW
 

MThanded

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
polyh3dron said:
McCain/Palin 08: She is a WOMAN, He was POW
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honestly, if mccain picked romney or lieberman or, i dunno, somebody whose qualifications transcend PTA accomplishments, i would actually sleep better at night. i disagree with their views, but hey, they can lead competently, i'd guess.

and the thing is, virtually every republican is down with this. what is wrong with them? when they're playing the fiddle do they know rome is burning right behind them? i admit that the Bush = McCain rhetoric is a bit overplayed and disingenuous - McCain would be a marginally better pres. than bush, IMO. but now with palin, yes, this really would be Bush mark 3. even worse.
 
I loved it how McCain's VP announcement thing in Ohio had those huge "Country First" signs the day after Obama had that amazing speech telling McCain to stop questioning his patriotism, because the Repubs don't have a monopoly on it.

That was so great.
 

kevm3

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Disgusting how McCain is taking Obama's theme and running with it. It was about experience and now its change and judgment? Ridiculous.
 

Aaron

Member
BoboBrazil said:
Yep, McCain just did a 360 entirely in one day. Shows how fake and full of shit he is just to get into office in my opinion...
McCain will do ANYTHING to get into office before he dies. ANYTHING. Being sodomized by Dick Cheney? He'd do it if it got him the votes. It's so blantantly clear on his face everytime he makes a speech or interview, I'm wondering how anyone could vote for someone who clearly has lost any standards he might have once had. Whatever he once was, he's now just an empty shell of need and desperation.
 

Socreges

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re: pregnancy, i love how the media has already committed hours to the question "should the media be talking about this?" - hopelessly ironic...
 

FightyF

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BoboBrazil said:
Oh right it is late here. 180 is correct, although if you look at it console wise it could be a rrod:lol

Or the new Wii-like Avatar interface MS is going for...to be more apt.
 

Rugasuki

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Lemonz said:
the McCain team used little more than a Google Internet search as part of a rushed effort to review Palin's potential pitfalls.


I just copied the exact same quote to post but you beat me to it. It's classic.
 

Slurpy

*drowns in jizz*
If a Hollywood movie isn't made about this election within the next year, I'm going to be fucking dissapointed.

Also, why would a republican strategist ADMIT THIS, even on condition of anonymity? Sabotage?
 

Karma

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M3wThr33 said:
It should be stated this quote is not a metaphor, but someone inside ACTUALLY saying how they researched her.

You have to laugh at the irony of that, too, considering how McCain was lauded for being a luddite.

Hard to believe some "anonymous" person. Sounds like bullshit to me.
 

Socreges

Banned
One Republican strategist with close ties to the campaign described the candidate's closest supporters as "keeping their fingers crossed" in hopes that additional information does not force McCain to revisit the decision. According to this Republican, who would discuss internal campaign strategizing only on condition of anonymity, the McCain team used little more than a Google Internet search as part of a rushed effort to review Palin's potential pitfalls. Just over a week ago, Palin was not on McCain's short list of potential running mates, the Republican said.
yeah i don't think this is all necessarily true.
 

AniHawk

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sevenchaos said:
His team does. Not the man himself.


Very interesting.

Think the republicans will be rid of her before the end of the week?

They'll need to do it quickly. Especially if this new piece or AIP gets brought up.

The LA Times story really needs to get on the MSM though. That's a fucking joke. This man is dangerous.
 
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