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[CharlieDigital]

What's going on here? And please tell me it's something other than Palin's pregnant daughter.

How about this?

http://www.andrys.com/palin-kilkenny.html

Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”. During her 6
years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over
33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the
City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation
(1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a
regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she
promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they
benefited residents.

Indeed, fiscal conservative in the same vein as Bush.

While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected
City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from
the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents
rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin's
attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew
her termination letter.

Well, hey now, she knows how to abuse executive privilege, just like Bush. Now I'm starting to see why McCain chose her.

Under investigation
for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen
contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she
later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to
replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded
for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew
her support.

Kind of reminds me of the whole recent Attorney-gate scandal. She seems like she'd fit right in with the current administration.

And you know, in case you felt that, even beyond all that, she was more experienced than Obama (which by proxy, means you think she has more experience than McCain as well :lol), there's this little gem:

There has to be literally millions of Americans who are more
knowledgeable and experienced than she.

 

[Hitokage]

http://www.andrys.com/palin-kilkenny.html

While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected
City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from
the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents
rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin's
attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew
her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the
Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.

That's fairly reprehensible stuff.

 

[RiskyChris]

AIP shit: http://www.jedreport.com/2008/09/john-mccains-alaska-first-prob.html

 

[King_Slender]

What's going on here? And please tell me it's something other than Palin's pregnant daughter.

3 main issues the hard lefties are running with:

1) The pregnant daughter non-disclosure
2) Palin was once a member of an "Alaska First" group that occasionally voted on secession
3) People claiming Palin was only vetted through Google

I'm not sure McCain will win, but if he does, I can't wait to see the explosion that happens on GAF and Digg.:lol

 

[Thunder Monkey]

What's going on here? And please tell me it's something other than Palin's pregnant daughter.

Seems to be polls and secessionist right now.

There was a few mentions of her daughter the page above, but that was yesterdays flavor. NubilePreggoGate.

 

[GhaleonEB]

This whole editorial is gold

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/01/AR2008090101715.html

Looking right into the camera, they offer statement after statement that they hope the voters will swallow but that history will forget.

Wow. That's the GOP in a nutshell.

 

[Stoney Mason]

And just as I said yesterday the spin is teh media is teh evil with Drudge leading the charge.

 

[Barrett2]

HUGE boost in todays rasmussen for Obama.


Palin backlash in effect folks.

It wouldn't surprise me. Yesterday I had an argument with a few of my most fervent Republican friends. Hearing them parrot the talking points about Palin was the saddest, most disingenuous & pathetic thing I have heard in a long time. Even though the Evangelical base might be satisfied with this pick, there are countless independents who see right through this sham.

 

[Cheebs]

3 main issues the hard lefties are running with:

1) The pregnant daughter non-disclosure
2) Palin was once a member of an "Alaska First" group that occasionally voted on secession
3) People claiming Palin was only vetted through Google

I'm not sure McCain will win, but if he does, I can't wait to see the explosion that happens on GAF and Digg.:lol

It will be worse than the backlash after 2000. While the recount issue likely won't happen but the dem base is far more in love with Obama than they were with Gore. There will be absolute chaos.

 

[maximum360]

I have a question, what if something happens to either Obama or McCain before the election? What's the process for selecting another candidate? Is there any precedent?

McCain is in a bind now. As someone stated earlier, staying with Palin could cost him the election. Dropping her would definitely cost him the election. The reasoning behind the former is that the scandals/issues/her hard right stances now in the forefront about Palin could turn of independents and disaffected democrats. The latter would so infuriate the base that they would just stay home come November which would no doubt guarantee an Obama victory.

 

[Hitokage]

3 main issues the hard lefties are running with:

Tribalism FTW AMIRITE?

 

[King_Slender]

HUGE boost in todays rasmussen for Obama.


Palin backlash in effect folks.

Actually, he's now up to 6 points, which is what Gallup has been reporting for Days. Afterall, Kerry was up 10% post-convention on Bush, so it's all but over for McCain, AMIRITE?

 

[Cheebs]

Actually, he's now up to 6 points, which is what Gallup has been reporting for Days. Afterall, Kerry was up 10% post-convention on Bush, so it's all but over for McCain, AMIRITE?

The most Kerry was ever up in the rassmussen poll was 3 points iirc. And the Gallup Daily tracker in 2004 had Kerry go down 2 points after his convention.

 

[Link648099]

Actually, he's now up to 6 points, which is what Gallup has been reporting for Days. Afterall, Kerry was up 10% post-convention on Bush, so it's all but over for McCain, AMIRITE?

King_Slender
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notify bish immediately
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[Thunder Monkey]

The most Kerry was ever up in the rassmussen poll was 3 points iirc. And the Gallup Daily tracker in 2004 had Kerry go down 2 points after his convention.

And you'd be right.

The largest either was over the other was by 3 points.

 

[Y2Kev]

Scarborough had a good point-- the poor McCain campaign people have to sit and listen to bush pimp offshore oil drilling while hurricanes attack Louisiana.

 

[VanMardigan]

Seems to be polls and secessionist right now.

There was a few mentions of her daughter the page above, but that was yesterdays flavor. NubilePreggoGate.

hmm, if the polls give Obama a continued boost despite Palin, that's great for him and considering that there likely won't be a significant RNC boost for McCain, we may be seeing the beginnings of a tidal wave that culminates in a November landslide. Or not.

The secessionist stuff demonstrates her rawness (sort of like the Ayers/Obama thing). No way either of those candidates would put themselves in those situations if they were contemplating the national stage.

While I initially had a feeling this pick would help McCain, I'm definitely not sure now. Though, it's still too early to tell, imo. It's certainly a game-changer, one way or the other.

How about this?

I'm thinking I need more of a source than that. There's a lot of personal politics in small towns, and stuff gets distorted.

 

[besada]

http://www.andrys.com/palin-kilkenny.htmlThat's fairly reprehensible stuff.

Yeah. That letter contains more interesting and damning information than any twelve stories about her children.

I wish this were what the MSM was running with.

They'll probably do with Palin what they did with Quayle, which is send him out to the boonies and keep him off camera.

 

[GhaleonEB]

HUGE boost in todays rasmussen for Obama.


Palin backlash in effect folks.

From three to six in one day.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ial_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Barack Obama attracting 48% of the vote while John McCain earns 43%. When "leaners" are included, it’s Obama 51%, McCain 45%. This is the highest level of support enjoyed by Obama at any point in Election 2008.

snap

It's noteworthy that for the first time in ages, the "leaners" move Obama further ahead.

 

[Cheebs]

And you'd be right.

The largest either was over the other was by 3 points.

So there you go. Obama today has doubled Kerry's biggest lead, and this was AFTER the palin announcement 4 days removed from the dem convention

That isn't good news for republicans.

And it won't get better tonight even though the convention is back on track. The lineup is Bush, Fred Thompson, and Joe Lieberman. Has there ever been a worse primetime lineup in convention history?

Literally, how many undecideds will be listening in awe to FRED THOMPSON? :lol

 

[ViperVisor]

So there you go. Obama today has doubled Kerry's biggest lead, and this was AFTER the palin announcement 4 days removed from the dem convention

That isn't good news for republicans.

And it won't get better tonight even though the convention is back on track. The lineup is Bush, Fred Thompson, and Joe Lieberman. Has there ever been a worse primetime lineup in convention history?

Literally, how many undecideds will be listening in awe to FRED THOMPSON? :lol

Will his wife be there?

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

How will McCain differentiate himself from Bush when he speaks at the convention? I can't think of anything that would result to a major shift in policies.

 

[sprsk]

So there you go. Obama today has doubled Kerry's biggest lead, and this was AFTER the palin announcement 4 days removed from the dem convention

That isn't good news for republicans.

And it won't get better tonight even though the convention is back on track. The lineup is Bush, Fred Thompson, and Joe Lieberman. Has there ever been a worse primetime lineup in convention history?

Literally, how many undecideds will be listening in awe to FRED THOMPSON? :lol

"You can hear him falling asleep right on stage!"

 

[Cheebs]

Will his wife be there?

I dunno. All I know is Bush speaks at 9:30 (just out of primetime network coverage lololol), Fred Thompson at 10, and Jooooe at 10:30.


Weakest lineup ever.

 

[Cheebs]

Will his wife be there?

I dunno. All I know is Bush speaks at 9:30 (just out of primetime network coverage lololol), Fred Thompson at 10, and Jooooe at 10:30.


Weakest lineup ever.


edit: wtf double post

 

[Cheebs]

Will his wife be there?

I dunno. All I know is Bush speaks at 9:30 (just out of primetime network coverage lololol), Fred Thompson at 10, and Jooooe at 10:30.


Weakest lineup ever.


edit: TRIPLE POST

 

[Thunder Monkey]

We heard you the first time Cheebs damn! :lol

 

[Fragamemnon]

Scarborough had a good point-- the poor McCain campaign people have to sit and listen to bush pimp offshore oil drilling while hurricanes attack Louisiana.

And while oil is dropping to near $100-a-barrel prices-off nearly 35% from its summer high- due in large part to a rising dollar and falling speculation traffic.

 

[Stoney Mason]

Why was Rudy dropped as a key note speaker tonight?

 

[Cheebs]

We heard you the first time Cheebs damn! :lol

I hit the button only once I swear! :lol

Why was Rudy dropped as a key note speaker tonight?

From what I hear he is moved till tomorrow. Thompson is now the keynote speaker.

 

[Link648099]

Why was Rudy dropped as a key note speaker tonight?

Palin-Gate

 

[Thunder Monkey]

I hit the button only once I swear! :lol



From what I hear he is moved till tomorrow. Thompson is now the keynote speaker.

Ahhh the internet.

Giving everyone a schizostutter for as long as I can remember.

 

[Y2Kev]

And while oil is dropping to near $100-a-barrel prices-off nearly 35% from its summer high- due in large part to a rising dollar and falling speculation traffic.

I'm sure Americans want it to go down even further and I'm sure many of them believe that drilling now could help, but the McCainers can't appreciate Bush a) pimping their policy and b) politicizing their "McCain's American hat" opportunity.

 

[saelz8]

Story starting to gain traction.

 

[CharlieDigital]

I'm thinking I need more of a source than that. There's a lot of personal politics in small towns, and stuff gets distorted.

Trust me, it's only a matter of time until the MSM picks up on it and verifies these statements. They've only had a few days to haul ass up to AK. In the next week, we'll see more coverage straight out of AK which will probably verify most of this information.

There are hordes of investigative reporters who are going to dig up the most foul shit that they can find and it will stink like all hell.

It'll be delicious.

 

[Beer Monkey]

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Barack Obama attracting 48% of the vote while John McCain earns 43%. When "leaners" are included, it’s Obama 51%, McCain 45%. This is the highest level of support enjoyed by Obama at any point in Election 2008.

I'm telling you guys since Friday, they will throw Palin under the bus if they feel they have no choice. She'll step down and the McCain camp will blame it on the godless sexist liberal media being unfair and trying to destroy her family.

 

[ViperVisor]

It'll be delicious.

Crazy Delicious

 

[maximum360]

"You can hear him falling asleep right on stage!"

:lol

 

[Hitokage]

What's interesting is that the tales of strong-arm tactics in Wasilla is consistent with the whole Trooper firing investigation, and her AIP background is consistent with her statement of making the VP office "productive for Alaska"(or whatever) when it's a job serving the interests of the ENTIRE UNION.

 

[Cheebs]

Story starting to gain traction.

CNN briefly mentioned it but never really said much else. It seems worthy to be a big story to me but barely is gaining traction despite ABC and the NYTimes reporting she was a member of this anti-american (wanting to leave the union is the definition of anti-american pretty much) political party.

 

[Beer Monkey]

I fucking love those crazy eyes. :lol

 

[Hitokage]

CNN briefly mentioned it but never really said much else. It seems worthy to be a big story to me but barely is gaining traction despite ABC and the NYTimes reporting she was a member of this anti-american (wanting to leave the union is the definition of anti-american pretty much) political party.

It's not a story that Britney Spears would produce.

 

[CharlieDigital]

Story starting to gain traction.

That "What, me worry?" look is perfect :lol

 

[saelz8]

CNN briefly mentioned it but never really said much else. It seems worthy to be a big story to me but barely is gaining traction despite ABC and the NYTimes reporting she was a member of this anti-american (wanting to leave the union is the definition of anti-american pretty much) political party.

Funny enough, it looks like they pulled the story! I don't see it, anywhere on ABC's site.

Can anyone else find it?

 

[Cheebs]

What's interesting is that the tales of strong-arm tactics in Wasilla is consistent with the whole Trooper firing investigation, and her AIP background is consistent with her statement of making the VP office "productive for Alaska"(or whatever) when it's a job serving the interests of the ENTIRE UNION.

That statement of hers is far more creepy in the context of the president of the AIP claiming a year ago that a major goal of the party is for members to join the mainstream parties to be able to secretly advance the cause of Alaska in higher office.

Also very briefly in 1990 the AIP party held the governorship in Alaska due to a mess of the major parties having too many candidates on the ballot. That governer endorsed Palin in 2006.

 

[Zabka]

Story starting to gain traction.

Now we're getting to the good stuff. I think the "fiscal conservative" facade will be torn down next week after they verify the city/state books.

She really only has 2 big moments in the national spotlight. One is tomorrow at the convention, and the other is at the VP debate a month from now. Republicans will only be able to control the message at the former, so her public image is going to be shaped almost entirely by the media after this week. Hopefully the talking heads will wear out the "That's sexist!" defense by the debate, so Biden can thoroughly embarass her (indirectly).

 

[maximum360]

CNN briefly mentioned it but never really said much else. It seems worthy to be a big story to me but barely is gaining traction despite ABC and the NYTimes reporting she was a member of this anti-american (wanting to leave the union is the definition of anti-american pretty much) political party.

This is way more legit than the "baby" story but the media (mostly cable news) is all about sensationalism.

If McCain gets elected, he won't last long. Palin will take over and the US will have one less star on the flag. "Republic of Alaska" in two years tops.

 

[scorcho]

OK, maybe they go with a "What if Biden dies and leaves an Obama in charge alone?" tack?

Obama won the Democratic primary and has been vetted by national press and public for the better part of 18 months. trying to equate him to Palin is a bit disingenuous.

 

[Slurpy]

This whole editorial is gold

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/01/AR2008090101715.html

Damn. Merciless, and true. Good read. Worth quoting again.

 

[VanMardigan]

The scrutiny on the national level is something fierce.

NOBODY that posts on GAF would ever pass vetting for VP, if for nothing other than their posts on this forum. :lol

Obama won the Democratic primary and has been vetted by national press and public for the better part of 18 months. trying to equate him to Palin is a bit disingenuous.

And he's got the bumps to prove it: Ayers/Resko/Wright