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PoliGAF Thread of Republican's Turn at Conventions (Palin VP - READ OP)
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http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/rezko_reality.htmlKing_Slender said:
what else will you regurgitate from McCain's attack ads?
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
AniHawk said:
im not gonna lie...i fact, i feel a bit of shame....
last night...
I was channel flippin between RNC Convention and...90210
I..Just wanted to see how Brenda's doing
Jason's Ultimatum
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~Devil Trigger~ said:im not gonna lie...i fact, i feel a bit of shame....
last night...
I was channel flippin between RNC Convention and...90210
I..Just wanted to see how Brenda's doing
Poor you. I watched the season premier of The Shield.
Anyway, I'm getting tired of the talking points of "Palin has more experience than Obama". That's like me working at a bank for 12 years, while another person working at another bank, working for 4 years. Now in that 12 years I didn't accomplish anything. Didn't put much effort in rising to the top. Now the person working at the bank for 4 years has accomplished a lot. Opened up more accounts than any other banker, employee of the month numerous times, rose to the top and eventually became a private banker.
Now who's accomplished more?
Souldriver
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So when is the actual, real, Presidential Election planned?
I can't wait for this to be over/cry because the wrong guy was picked.
Edit: I should wiki that.
Edit: Still two months? Sigh.
I can't wait for this to be over/cry because the wrong guy was picked.
Edit: I should wiki that.
Edit: Still two months? Sigh.
CharlieDigital
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Lemonz said:Ouch.
O shit, I thought this was a 'shop. It's the actual cover :lol
King_Slender said:
Apparently you are misinformed about what an 'earmark' is, and the Obama - earmark connection. This Newsweek article explains the Obama - Rezko connection... which, lets face it, is nothing in-scale compared to a small town Mayor securing $20,000,000 in pork for a town of 6,000 people.
Newsweek said:
Truly scandalous indeed!
typhonsentra
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You guys keep falling for this guy's jokes. :lol
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/02/AR2008090203144.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/03/AR2008090300711.html
Haha that can't be true
Ambinder asks: Does the McCain campaign think that their ticket can win if they go to war with the press 60 days out?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/03/AR2008090300711.html
Haha that can't be true
Ambinder asks: Does the McCain campaign think that their ticket can win if they go to war with the press 60 days out?
syllogism said:
now i'll just sit back and wait for proof that she was a member of the AIP. Battling the media and "throwing down" like that just invites people that will try their hardest to make you look like an ass.
McCain lies in ads on TV, but its ok because he attaches his name to it. Random smear attacks by the media are Obama campaign fodder. I volunteer for the local Obama campaign here and i can tell you... everythings been pretty mum since the end of the convention... no one has said a word about Palin, i dont know where they get that their stupid decisions backfire is a conspiracy of the obama campaign
MassiveAttack
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King_Slender said:
Tag tag tag tag tag tag tag tag tag tag tag...
Steve Youngblood
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This is going to be interesting to watch play out. Palin's going to have to knock tonight's speech out of the park and hope that the media eases up on the vetting process that McCain obviously didn't do. If she can, she might be able to emerge from these inquiries looking like a solid choice who was given unfair initial scrutiny by the media.syllogism said:
Of course, this hinges on appearing strongly vice presidential from now until November and on there not being any significant dirt out there to go along with what they've already been finding.
Byakuya769
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GrotesqueBeauty said:
Yea that was pretty lowly what they pulled. Campbell just asked a straight forward question, to which she could not receive an answer.
Seems the McCain campaign is trying to play the victim to "librul media biazzzzz". It may work to energize the base though, worked for Bush's campaign/administration. I fell for it at times.
MassiveAttack
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speculawyer said:Photo from Wasilla . . .
:lol Death Race
Steve Youngblood
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Well, the speech is just phase 1 of the process. Everything between now and the VP debates are going to prove whether she sinks or swims. That debate especially should be interesting, but I'm not worried for her. After all, I hear she's getting a "crash course" right now (as an aside, does anybody find it insulting that apparently everything one needs to know about global politics can be learned in a couple of months?).syllogism said:
Byakuya769 said:
the problem is, they are energizing the base, while also energizing democrats, as well as turning off independents and undecideds...
If Obama is currently polling this high with "likely voters", i wonder what his actual numbers look like. If Obama can get the youth and minority vote to actually show up in November at the high rate they are registering people (and dont have a significant drop off from the primary numbers) this SHOULD be a cake walk. The only problem is, other campaigns have died because of the lack of turnout of said voters.
Byakuya769
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Steve Youngblood said:
Makes you realize that everyone thinks that they are qualified to be President.... Harvard Grad = elitist. Not that I am saying you have to be a true academic genius to serve, but not having opinions and knowledge on world issues (ie Iraq) should remove you from consideration.
Son of Godzilla
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I saw Guiliani on uh... CBS I think it was this morning and it was just hilarious. He was asked about Palin's experience and started spouting off about Obama, specific stuff like never been south of the border or whatever the fuck, so the interviewer said Obama was already taken to task over that and that they were fair questions and wanted to know why they can't ask fair questions about Palin. So then Rudy started spouting off about "Fair" and what it means to be Fair and whether or not the press can ask questions, who should consider whether or not they are fair, and just all sorts of wonderful spin.
So after the interviewer calmed him down and asked again about Palin's experience, Rudy just shrugged and started asking where all the feminists went to, why women haven't embraced Palin, wondering how they could be attacking her. The interviewer, of course, was a woman.
Only the RNC can underline how sexist they are by trying to get a woman elected.
So after the interviewer calmed him down and asked again about Palin's experience, Rudy just shrugged and started asking where all the feminists went to, why women haven't embraced Palin, wondering how they could be attacking her. The interviewer, of course, was a woman.
Only the RNC can underline how sexist they are by trying to get a woman elected.
BenjaminBirdie
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gkrykewy said:
They spent the first ten minutes of their Con reac doing just that.
So I want to continue my series of posts that looks at politics and the people around me.
Yesterday's point:
Some people do not want to vote for a losing candidate. They want to vote for the winner, so they themselves feel like a winner.
Today's point:
I was talking to another friend last night about the election. He's a registered Republican who voted for Bush twice, the 2nd time because: "well, he started the war, he should end it". Unfortunately, he wasn't alone in 2004 as many Americans fell victim to that talking point.
After a long discussion about how he's unsure about who to vote for this election, he concluded that "You know what I think? We don't really have a good selection to choose from. I mean, both of them aren't too great".
I don't know what he expects, Lincoln to be cloned?
Anyway, maybe the extra-long election cycle we have this year has effected the everyday voter, to the point where all they hear are the attacks, making them indifferent toward both McCain and Obama.
Yesterday's point:
Some people do not want to vote for a losing candidate. They want to vote for the winner, so they themselves feel like a winner.
Today's point:
I was talking to another friend last night about the election. He's a registered Republican who voted for Bush twice, the 2nd time because: "well, he started the war, he should end it". Unfortunately, he wasn't alone in 2004 as many Americans fell victim to that talking point.
After a long discussion about how he's unsure about who to vote for this election, he concluded that "You know what I think? We don't really have a good selection to choose from. I mean, both of them aren't too great".
I don't know what he expects, Lincoln to be cloned?
Anyway, maybe the extra-long election cycle we have this year has effected the everyday voter, to the point where all they hear are the attacks, making them indifferent toward both McCain and Obama.
Byakuya769
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maynerd said:
Yea he's pretty funny, has that trademark nation journalist look to him as well.
BenjaminBirdie
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gkrykewy said:
Convention reaction?
MassiveAttack
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yoopoo said:
Already posted. Apparently it is also God's plan to build a $30B gas pipeline through the state of Alaska.
Fatalah said:
there HAS to be a study somewhere that shows polling data vs voter turnout. In elections where public polling data showed one candidate easily winning, has the turnout been lower... ie "He doesnt need my vote, he's going to win anyway..." or "Why should i show up to vote when he's just going to lose anyway"
BenjaminBirdie
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gkrykewy said:
It was sick. Blitzer's a bit of an empty suit but right after the speeches ended he was like "Okay, I just want to point this out" and he ran the interview, defended Campbell, called out McCain. It was sick, bro.
Same thing happened last election. Most people I spoke with, felt that both candidates sucked in 2004.Fatalah said:
But personally, I can't see how anyone can really discredit Obama's campaign in this election...if anything it almost seems to be the perfect platform. If his campaign gets any better, I'd suspect him to be a Manchurian Candidate.
MassiveAttack
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Imm0rt4l said:
The don't think the vast majority of the country has any idea.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Murdoch_and_Obama_A_tentative_peace.html?showallso_awes said:
I'm guessing that's why.
Byakuya769
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gkrykewy said:
Panel's reaction right after lieberman's speech.
That reminds me, in general this convention has seemed to be a joke. A friend told me how great Sen. Fred Thompson's speech was, but when I watched it I found myself disagreeing. It was everything that I did not want in their convention, an old guy yelling about service, patriotism, and THEY ARE GOING TO TAX YOU!!!! Along with more POW for your bucks.
One of the talking heads described the convention so far pretty well when they said that they felt the dnc looked to be the party for all americans now, while the rnc just looks stuck in the past (reagan tribute!?! good gracious, who's needs conservative christian values when you make a religion out of him and his name).
CharlieDigital
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Slurpy said:
His inability to digest facts is astounding.
No wonder the (R) still has such a strong base. I can only hope that half of these folks come to their sanity.
I've mostly tuned out King_Slender for idiocy (and Gaborn, too, but for different reasons).
Please tell me someone was just watching Fox. Bob Beckel was doing a random segment on Palin and they told him Obama has just agreed to go on O'Reilly Thursday. The two women kept on talking and he just sat their with this look on his face of utter fear. I couldn't believe his reaction.
Frankly, I'm shocked that Obama is going on O'Reilly for his first public interview that will be largely about the Sara Palin attacks. As a conservative, I have to respect his brass balls here.
Frankly, I'm shocked that Obama is going on O'Reilly for his first public interview that will be largely about the Sara Palin attacks. As a conservative, I have to respect his brass balls here.
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