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[Byakuya769]

Nope, last paragraph: http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?p=12595538#post12595538

I already read that... a single quote followed by an opinionated narrative doesn't really prove that point in my eyes. I believe she's a bad choice, but I think this line of attack is intellectually disingenuous.

 

[Door2Dawn]

I still need to give you you're movies back tho :lol

also

http://politicalwire.com/

Well thats pretty encouraging.

 

[Cheebs]

I think that when you break this down, Obama and Palin represents firsts if elected, but it comes down to perception. We've watched Obama rise before our eyes in the last 4 years especially but his road to greatness was defined long ao. We can honestly see him as presidential. In damn near everything that he has done in the public, he's handled it almost flawlessly. We don't see that with Sarah. Even getting away from the fact that she is a vanity pick. Think of all the women that has played an integral role in various parts of our government. I personally don't feel Palin is worthy of this distinction.

I agree with the last point 100%. Hillary fought fucking hard to try to break the ceiling. Palin would have it handed to her on a silver platter, it'd be pretty depressing from the feminist movement standpoint IMO

 

[reilo]

I think that when you break this down, Obama and Palin represents firsts if elected, but it comes down to perception. We've watched Obama rise before our eyes in the last 4 years especially but his road to greatness was defined long ao. We can honestly see him as presidential. In damn near everything that he has done in the public, he's handled it almost flawlessly. We don't see that with Sarah. Even getting away from the fact that she is a vanity pick. Think of all the women that has played an integral role in various parts of our government. I personally don't feel Palin is worthy of this distinction.

Not just that, but Obama rose to stardom by his own doing and hard work. Palin was picked less for her qualifications, but rather for her gender and political gain by McCain. Hillary, while being aided by her last name also had to work so goddamn hard to get to the brink of the presidential nomination.

I see one as a legitimate rise to political greatness, the other? Not so much.

 

[Gaborn]

It's sarcasm, notice how I reused the word girl after your silly accusation of sexism.

More likely a calculated attack on my sexuality, but I can understand your desire to claim it's a joke now. As I said Cheebs if you're having personal issues I hope you get through them ok.

Anyway didja guys here MR. PALIN DRIVES SNOWMOBILES. HOT SHIT RIGHT THERE

Indeed it is neat.

 

[adamsappel]

I think you just revealed the first golden debate question of the day . . .

"Governer Palin, seeing as you are the mother of a special needs infant, how will you properly care for your child, and attend to the country's needs?"

That is almost as offensive a question as, "Governor, if Kitty Dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer?" Hopefully, we've gotten past questions like that.

It was quite intelligent and will deliver exactly where needed. They will be able train someone that has not been corrupted by the senate exactly the way we need. She will also bring a ton of fresh ideas to the country that are needed like less gun control and less reliance on social programs.

Yeah, those are fresh ideas we've never heard from a Republican candidate.

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

You were right NeoGAF seems to be 90% Liberal and 10% Conservative

It reminds me of middle school in the NES days when I was the kid with the Master System!

We'll take that as a compliment. Because the tenets and values of liberalism are something to be proud of.

Social equality, tolerance and economic liberalism; where a strong middle class is used to reinforce a growing economy. Continual strides towards advancement in learning and understanding the nature of the world, over preserving older, outmoded ideas.

The greatest trick the republicans have ever done was to convince middle america that liberalism was a dirty word.

 

[-Kees-]

Anyway didja guys here MR. PALIN DRIVES SNOWMOBILES. HOT SHIT RIGHT THERE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUeGTTzZk-k

(at the very end)

 

[reilo]

More likely a calculated attack on my sexuality, but I can understand your desire to claim it's a joke now. As I said Cheebs if you're having personal issues I hope you get through them ok.



Indeed it is neat.

Oh shit :lol

When I read his post calling you girly, your sexuality did not spring to my mind at all. I am being 100% serious.

 

[Particle Physicist]

Who's calling Palin a maverick?

okay. found one instance of a gaffer calling her a maverick before the media started repeating republican talking points: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12590048&postcount=10725

She's just like him. She goes after her own party, she fights corruption, she's a gritty maverick, she's tough..

:lol i seriously think there are a few gaffers on here doing that mccain points thing.

 

[Cheebs]

Oh shit :lol

When I read his post calling you girly, your sexuality did not spring to my mind at all. I am being 100% serious.

I don't even know what sex Gabron is, I assume he is a guy.

Ahnuld called John Kerry a girly man at the 2004 GOP convention. Apparently that was massive sexist attacks against Senator Kerry?

 

[Gaborn]

Oh shit :lol

When I read his post calling you girly, your sexuality did not spring to my mind at all. I am being 100% serious.

I believe you that it did not occur to you.

Cheebs - I find it hard to believe you were unaware I am a gay male.

 

[reilo]

I don't even know what sex Gabron is, I assume he is a guy.

He is, but he is gay. That's why it was offensive to him when you called him girly.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Not just that, but Obama rose to stardom by his own doing and hard work. Palin was picked less for her qualifications, but rather for her gender and political gain by McCain. Hillary, while being aided by her last name also had to work so goddamn hard to get to the brink of the presidential nomination.

I see one as a legitimate rise to political greatness, the other? Not so much.

As I said earlier, with one fell swoop Palin was placed in a position closer to being president than Hillary Clinton's 18 million votes and years of service got her. I'm not saying she doesn't "deserve" to be the first female president but god, imagine if the first female president gets there due to succession, not through the democratic process. And if she is truly over her head as president what would that do to the prospect of other females being elected to office?

 

[Cheebs]

He is, but he is gay. That's why it was offensive to him when you called him girly.

Really? I didn't know that. Apologizes then.

As I said earlier, with one fell swoop Palin was placed in a position closer to being president than Hillary Clinton's 18 million votes and years of service got her. I'm not saying she doesn't "deserve" to be the first female president but god, imagine if the first female president gets there due to succession, not through the democratic process. And if she is truly over her head as president what would that do to the prospect of other females being elected to office?

Exactly. I am no feminist but I cant see how any self-confessed one wouldn't take offense to this move.

 

[Gaborn]

Really? I didn't know that. Apologizes then.

Fair enough then, I guess we all make mistakes.

 

[reilo]

Really? I didn't know that. Apologizes then.

Unlike most of other gay GAFfers, Gaborn doesn't leave a bread crumb of pink triangles with his posts.

 

[NomarTyme]

I suggest that GAF take a sensitivity course.

 

[CharlieDigital]

Politics is not an RPG. You do not automatically gain experience and level up.

Politics is not an RPG. You do not automatically gain experience and level up.

Politics is not an RPG. You do not automatically gain experience and level up.

Politics is not an RPG. You do not automatically gain experience and level up.

This needs more emphasis :lol

 

[whytemyke]

my buddy and i are arguing over the wisdom of the pick. I think that by McCain taking a person with no experience it invalidates all of his attacks on Obama and also invites the question of age which really wans't too much on the table before.

He says that McCain is going after the disillusioned Hildawg supporters and by getting someone who can talk energy/green with everyone else he is adding a few tricks up hsi jacket.

This needs more emphasis :lol

Maybe she did some heavy grinding to get to where she's at...




like DQ8.

 

[greepoman]

"Religion should not be be taught as fact in science class, but neither should evolution. You wouldn't need to worry about creationist science sneaking into class if evolution wasn't forced on kids as a statement of fact in schools"

The difference between evolution and creationism is that there are literally millions of pieces of evidence that support the theory of evolution (much like the theory of gravity). Evolution even yields real world applications like DNA evidence, etc.

Creationism on the other hand doesn't have a single piece of evidence to support it and almost all papers on the subject are basically trying to poke holes in evolution (usually using outdated evidence, faulty logic etc). News flash...you don't prove creationism by trying to disprove evolution.

And like people have said, this is akin to doing something like teaching Scientology alongside the theory of gravity.

 

[SEGA SAMMY]

I agree with the last point 100%. Hillary fought fucking hard to try to break the ceiling. Palin would have it handed to her on a silver platter, it'd be pretty depressing from the feminist movement standpoint IMO

And all the actresses before her worked so hard so Halle Berry could win best actress. I didn't see any complaints then. If you break the glass ceiling, you break the glass ceiling.

 

[Door2Dawn]

my buddy and i are arguing over the wisdom of the pick. I think that by McCain taking a person with no experience it invalidates all of his attacks on Obama and also invites the question of age which really wans't too much on the table before.

He says that McCain is going after the disillusioned Hildawg supporters and by getting someone who can talk energy/green with everyone else he is adding a few tricks up hsi jacket.



Maybe she did some heavy grinding to get to where she's at...




like DQ8.

Hes pretty much right.

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

I agree with the last point 100%. Hillary fought fucking hard to try to break the ceiling. Palin would have it handed to her on a silver platter, it'd be pretty depressing from the feminist movement standpoint IMO

Yes, I would hate to do 20% of the leg work myself to watch someone that wasn't involved in the struggle get the nod. I mean she wasn't even a McCain surrogate like some of the others. This is completely out of left field.

Not just that, but Obama rose to stardom by his own doing and hard work. Palin was picked less for her qualifications, but rather for her gender and political gain by McCain. Hillary, while being aided by her last name also had to work so goddamn hard to get to the brink of the presidential nomination.

I see one as a legitimate rise to political greatness, the other? Not so much.

Yes, exactly. There is a know it when you see it type feel that you get from people. With Obama, you see, with Palin, no way.

 

[Tobor]

my buddy and i are arguing over the wisdom of the pick. I think that by McCain taking a person with no experience it invalidates all of his attacks on Obama and also invites the question of age which really wans't too much on the table before.

He says that McCain is going after the disillusioned Hildawg supporters and by getting someone who can talk energy/green with everyone else he is adding a few tricks up hsi jacket.

McCain can't even pander correctly.

 

[AniHawk]

And all the actresses before her worked so hard so Halle Berry could win best actress. I didn't see any complaints then. If you break the glass ceiling, you break the glass ceiling.

What.

 

[Gaborn]

Unlike most of other gay GAFfers, Gaborn doesn't leave a bread crumb of pink triangles with his posts.

*cough*

 

[ryutaro's mama]

my buddy and i are arguing over the wisdom of the pick. I think that by McCain taking a person with no experience it invalidates all of his attacks on Obama and also invites the question of age which really wans't too much on the table before.

He says that McCain is going after the disillusioned Hildawg supporters and by getting someone who can talk energy/green with everyone else he is adding a few tricks up hsi jacket.

BREAKING NEWS!!

You won the argument.

By landslide.

 

[reilo]

And all the actresses before her worked so hard so Halle Berry could win best actress. I didn't see any complaints then. If you break the glass ceiling, you break the glass ceiling.

Uhm, Halle Berry wasn't the first woman to win an Academy Award.

What the fuck? Were you born in 1998?

*cough*

Perfectly hetero statement to make.

 

[deadbeef]

It's been frustrating not being able to comment all day (can't post at work). I don't participate in the discussion here very much because I'm not a politico like all you guys. I think of myself as an independent.

I have to say, I'm pleased with McCain's pick. I would have liked to see Obama pick a non-Washingtonian politician as well, and then we'd really be cooking.

I think it was a smart pick, given the position that the McCain camp is in.

 

[AniHawk]

Uhm, Halle Berry wasn't the first woman to win an Academy Award.

What the fuck? Were you born in 1998?

For some reason I think he switched to talking about race.

For some reason.

 

[RubxQub]

It's been frustrating not being able to comment all day (can't post at work). I don't participate in the discussion here very much because I'm not a politico like all you guys. I think of myself as an independent.

I have to say, I'm pleased with McCain's pick. I would have liked to see Obama pick a non-Washingtonian politician as well, and then we'd really be cooking.

I think it was a smart pick, given the position that the McCain camp is in.

Have you made a decision about who you are going to support, and does McCain's pick swing you closer to McCain than you previously were?

 

[reilo]

For some reason I think he switched to talking about race.

For some reason.

That's one hell of a non-sequitur.

 

[Stinkles]

Unlike most of other gay GAFfers, Gaborn doesn't leave a bread crumb of pink triangles with his posts.

I imagine most gay gafers don't go on about it, same as most straight gafers. GreatnessGone is not most gay gafers.

 

[Tobor]

Uhm, Halle Berry wasn't the first woman to win an Academy Award.

What the fuck? Were you born in 1998?

Not only that, the analogy makes no sense. How did these other actresses help her win exactly? :lol

On second thought, don't even answer that. Comparing the Academy Awards to a Presidential election is ludicrous enough.

 

[Gaborn]

Perfectly hetero statement to make.

:lol :lol

 

[reilo]

I imagine most gay gafers don't go on about it, same as most straight gafers. GreatnessGone is not most gay gafers.

Do you not know who Nick is?

 

[ryutaro's mama]

It's been frustrating not being able to comment all day (can't post at work). I don't participate in the discussion here very much because I'm not a politico like all you guys. I think of myself as an independent.

I have to say, I'm pleased with McCain's pick. I would have liked to see Obama pick a non-Washingtonian politician as well, and then we'd really be cooking.

I think it was a smart pick, given the position that the McCain camp is in.

So, if something were to befall McCain, you would feel confident Palin could perform well in the highest office in the land?

 

[reilo]

So, if something were to befall McCain, you would feel confident Palin could perform well in the highest office in the land?

Reilo, quit being such an Obama-homer. Obamomer?

 

[Kildace]

He says that McCain is going after the disillusioned Hildawg supporters and by getting someone who can talk energy/green with everyone else he is adding a few tricks up hsi jacket.

Problem is, she's not green, she wants to drill, does not support alternate energy sources in her state and doesn't think that global warming is man-made.

 

[Stinkles]

Do you not know who Nick is?

Now I am confused. Who's nick? What's he got to do with Gaborn?

 

[Arde5643]

For some reason I think he switched to talking about race.

For some reason.

I think reason, rational, intelligence, and sanity aren't something Sammy Sega ever had, or perhaps he voluntarily lost them.

 

[reilo]

Problem is, she's not green, she wants to drill, does not support alternate energy sources in her state and doesn't think that global warming is man-made.

You forgot the most important issue for women: She is staunchly anti-abortion under ANY circumstances.

Now I am confused. Who's nick? What's he got to do with Gaborn?

If you see him post and see his tag, you'd understand.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Now I am confused. Who's nick? What's he got to do with Gaborn?

They both post on GAF.

 

[Tobor]

I think reason, rational, intelligence, and sanity aren't something Sammy Sega ever had, or perhaps he voluntarily lost them.

He traded them in for fiscal responsibility.

 

[deadbeef]

Have you made a decision about who you are going to support, and does McCain's pick swing you closer to McCain than you previously were?

I'm having a very hard time deciding who I'm going to vote for. I'm glad everything is finally in the open and I can really start evaluating the candidates.

If McCain had picked Romney or any of the other earlier contenders, I probably would not have voted for him. But this pick is very interesting. I may vote for him. But I have problems with her stance on abortion because I think a woman should have the right to choose. I like the initial assessment of her as a watchdog; granted, time will tell if that is actually the case.

What is really exciting to me, is that we are really going to get some fresh perspectives (I think) in office next year, no matter who wins.

 

[Gaborn]

Now I am confused. Who's nick? What's he got to do with Gaborn?

Nick is another gay gaffer that is very open about his sexuality, to the point where he had a custom tag with "member" in rainbow colors. I THINK he's banned at the moment but I'm not quite sure.

Edit: Nope, not banned. For a fuller explanation of what he meant though

 

[Stinkles]

I think reason, rational, intelligence, and sanity aren't something Sammy Sega ever had, or perhaps he voluntarily lost them.

I like him. He's the American cheese while you wait for JayDubya's burger to arrive.

 

[reilo]

I like him. He's the American cheese while you wait for JayDubya's burger to arrive.

:lol wtf

 

[The Librarian]

So wassup you guys. I, uh, I hear McCain chose Palin as his VP.

Yeah...