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PoliGAF Thread of Republican's Turn at Conventions (Palin VP - READ OP)

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Zeke

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Cheebs said:
To those wondering how much NeoGAF has raised for Obama:
$75,196.11



Over 75 thousand dollars from gaffers for Obama.

And remember this is a private group that is password protected so not just anyone joined it.

Think NeoGAF can raise over 100k by Nov 4th?
wow to be honest thats kind of sad just imo tho
 

tanod

when is my burrito
jey_16 said:
is it possible to donate to Obama's campaign even if you are not a US citizen and living overseas? i'm a conservative but i fear for the world if a party like the GOP as it is now gets 4 more years

It's possible but not legal.
 

Brannon

Member
tanod said:

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837918,00.html

Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor.
 
Jak140 said:
The video I uploaded on August 31st, 2008 of Sarah Palin laughing as a cancer surviving senator was derided as being a "bitch" and a "cancer" by a shock jock on "The Bob and Mark Show", a radio show on KWHL in Alaska was deleted for "copyright infringement."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKkydrUnBZE

Here is the clip uploaded by someone on another channel, download it and spread it around before they delete this one too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9AIDRGzUAw

I listened to that and don't get the big deal at all. Am I missing something? Sounds like from their point of view the lady was being a bitch and they called her one. Palin chuckled. So what.
 

AniHawk

Member
Lemonz said:
Will it be only Democrats responding on Larry King tonight?

McCain was going to appear (seriously), but Campbell Brown wanted Tucker Bounds to name just one thing Palin did.

He couldn't, so the campaign took their ball and went home.
 

seat

Member
Cheebs said:
To those wondering how much NeoGAF has raised for Obama:
$75,196.11
Wow.

So, uh, would anyone like to donate to the charity I'm affiliated with? It's called "The Human Fund".
 

Diablos

Member
AniHawk said:
McCain was going to appear (seriously), but Campbell Brown wanted Tucker Bounds to name just one thing Palin did.

He couldn't, so the campaign took their ball and went home.
Boo fuckin' hoo. You can't have it both ways, McCain.
 

Tim-E

Member
ZealousD said:
I don't think that's accurate. We had a goal of $1,337 during the primaries and we barely met it if I recall.

I think that's calculating everyone in the group who has donated at all, not just through the group. I'm a member of the group, but I never think to donate through the group when I do.
 

AniHawk

Member
Brannon said:

Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker and questioned her comittment to Sparkle Motion.

Wow.
 

Dirtbag

Member
Usually kids are liberals while they are young and educated.

Then they take that education and get jobs (and get a taste for paying taxes), and magically arent liberals anymore. :lol

I have no idea if this is true, this is just spewing out

and thus the independent party was born, or so the legend says.
 
harSon said:
<ban books>
Do you have a source? That's pretty terrifying if true...

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837918,00.html

Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor.

Yeah, that is mondo-fucked-up.

Edit: Damn! Beat like a cheating-ref by a hockey-mom!
 
AniHawk said:
And Lieberman couldn't get on any ticket. Sad.
It's almost like McCain is Maverick from Top Gun and Lieberman is Goose who just pulled the ejection lever only to hit his head on the cockpit shield.
 
....Can't be.

Old?
John McCain's presidential campaign is threatening a lawsuit against the National Enquirer over a print edition story the tabloid ran today alleging that Gov. Sarah Palin has had an extramarital affair with her husband's business partner.

The allegation would normally be dismissed by political observers as the random musings of a supermarket tabloid -- indeed, the McCain campaign said as much in its statements on Wednesday -- except that the paper has built up a reservoir of legitimacy following its earlier reporting on the John Edwards affair.

In a statement to the Huffington Post, a spokesman for the paper, who promised a larger report next week, tapped into that pool of quasi-respect.

"The National Enquirer's coverage of a vicious war within Sarah Palin's extended family includes several newsworthy revelations, including the resulting incredible charge of an affair plus details of family strife when the Governor's daughter revealed her pregnancy. Following our John Edwards' exclusives, our political reporting has obviously proven to be more detail-oriented than the McCain campaign's vetting process. Despite the McCain camp's attempts to control press coverage they find unfavorable, The Enquirer will continue to pursue news on both sides of the political spectrum."
 

chubigans

y'all should be ashamed
reggieandTFE said:
Come on dude, abortion is only defined that way in America. The Catholic right to life involves opposition to the death penalty and opposing dropping of bombs on poor people so that would exclude your precious vote being wasted on any Republicans. You can't pick and choose which aspects of doctrine you're going to follow. Hell, the Catholic church has long supported social justice movements and decried the abuses of the "free" market as well. Outside of abortion, the Catholic church's positions are much closer to the democratic party's.
That's actually a very good point. Either party isn't exactly a great choice for Catholics, which is why the church has always made it a point to say they AREN'T endorsing any particular person.

Good point though. I'm gonna have to think about this one.
 

harSon

Banned
PrivateWHudson said:
I listened to that and don't get the big deal at all. Am I missing something? Sounds like from their point of view the lady was being a bitch and they called her one. Palin chuckled. So what.

Calling a Cancer survivor a "Cancer" is pretty fucked up in my book.
 

Xisiqomelir

Member
Okay, I can't believe I actually have to do this, but some of you are driving me insane with the "SHOW ME THE LIES SHE DIDNT LIE HAHAHA OBAMA GOT OWNED" retardation. Here are all the Palin lies and bullshit I could find in the NPR transcript in bold. Filler will be [/striked]

EDIT 9/4/08: Throwing in one of my posts from a little later in the thread to distinguish between plain untruths and vaguely fact-related prevarications.

To categorize, the plain lies are:

L1-Track Palin going to Iraq on Sept 11, 2008
L2-Palin's non-dealing with lobbyists
L3-Palin's opposition to federal earmarks
L4-Palin's opposition to the bridge to nowhere
L5-Obama not sponsoring IL state senate legislation
L6-Obama never using the word "victory"
L7-Obama raising taxes on the majority of the population
L8-Obama reducing American military strength
L9-Obama opposing increased energy production


and the dissemblings/equivocations/slanders are:

D1-Denigration of community organizers
D2-Bittergate
D3-"Media attack"
D4-Touting the balanced AK state budget, where she's only been governor 20 mo, when we have the example of the $20M Wasilla deficit after 6 years of her mayorship
D5-Imminent victory in Iraq
D6-Implying meetings without preconditions is naturally followed by total supplication
D7-Obama allowing terrorists to evade capture

Mr. Chairman, delegates, and fellow citizens: I am honored to be considered for the nomination for vice president of the United States.

I accept the call to help our nominee for president to serve and defend America.

I accept the challenge of a tough fight in this election against confident opponents at a crucial hour for our country.

And I accept the privilege of serving with a man who has come through much harder missions ... and met far graver challenges and knows how tough fights are won — the next president of the United States, John S. McCain.

It was just a year ago when all the experts in Washington counted out our nominee because he refused to hedge his commitment to the security of the country he loves.

With their usual certitude, they told us that all was lost — there was no hope for this candidate who said that he would rather lose an election than see his country lose a war.

But the pollsters and pundits overlooked just one thing when they wrote him off.

They overlooked the caliber of the man himself — the determination, resolve, and sheer guts of Sen. John McCain. The voters knew better.

And maybe that's because they realize there is a time for politics and a time for leadership ... a time to campaign and a time to put our country first.

Our nominee for president is a true profile in courage, and people like that are hard to come by.

He's a man who wore the uniform of this country for 22 years and refused to break faith with those troops in Iraq who have now brought victory within sight.


And as the mother of one of those troops, that is exactly the kind of man I want as commander in chief. I'm just one of many moms who'll say an extra prayer each night for our sons and daughters going into harm's way.

Our son Track is 19.

And one week from tomorrow — Sept. 11 — he'll deploy to Iraq (L1)
with the Army infantry in the service of his country.

He's going to Kuwait first

My nephew Kasey also enlisted and serves on a carrier in the Persian Gulf.

My family is proud of both of them and of all the fine men and women serving the country in uniform. Track is the eldest of our five children.

In our family, it's two boys and three girls in between — my strong and kind-hearted daughters, Bristol, Willow and Piper.

And in April, my husband, Todd, and I welcomed our littlest one into the world, a perfectly beautiful baby boy named Trig. From the inside, no family ever seems typical.

That's how it is with us.

Our family has the same ups and downs as any other — the same challenges and the same joys.

Sometimes even the greatest joys bring challenge.

And children with special needs inspire a special love.

To the families of special-needs children all across this country, I have a message: For years, you sought to make America a more welcoming place for your sons and daughters.

I pledge to you that if we are elected, you will have a friend and advocate in the White House. Todd is a story all by himself.

He's a lifelong commercial fisherman ... a production operator in the oil fields of Alaska's North Slope ... a proud member of the United Steel Workers Union ... and world champion snow machine racer.

Throw in his Yup'ik Eskimo ancestry, and it all makes for quite a package.

We met in high school, and two decades and five children later he's still my guy. My mom and dad both worked at the elementary school in our small town.

And among the many things I owe them is one simple lesson: that this is America, and every woman can walk through every door of opportunity.

My parents are here tonight, and I am so proud to be the daughter of Chuck and Sally Heath. Long ago, a young farmer and haberdasher from Missouri followed an unlikely path to the vice presidency.

A writer observed: "We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty, sincerity, and dignity." I know just the kind of people that writer had in mind when he praised Harry Truman.

I grew up with those people.

They are the ones who do some of the hardest work in America who grow our food, run our factories and fight our wars.

They love their country, in good times and bad, and they're always proud of America. I had the privilege of living most of my life in a small town.

I was just your average hockey mom and signed up for the PTA because I wanted to make my kids' public education better.

When I ran for City Council, I didn't need focus groups and voter profiles because I knew those voters, and knew their families, too.


Before I became governor of the great state of Alaska, I was mayor of my hometown.

And since our opponents in this presidential election seem to look down on that experience, let me explain to them what the job involves.

I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a "community organizer," except that you have actual responsibilities. (D1) I might add that in small towns, we don't quite know what to make of a candidate who lavishes praise on working people when they are listening, and then talks about how bitterly they cling to their religion and guns when those people aren't listening.

I think we all know this one by now

We tend to prefer candidates who don't talk about us one way in Scranton and another way in San Francisco.(D2)

What is this, a Pelosi dig? Obama does not change his message for venue. Obama does not denigrate voters.

As for my running mate, you can be certain that wherever he goes, and whoever is listening, John McCain is the same man. I'm not a member of the permanent political establishment. And I've learned quickly, these past few days, that if you're not a member in good standing of the Washington elite, then some in the media consider a candidate unqualified for that reason alone.(D3)

This falls under "bullshit", rather than "lie". Here, the Republican nominee for VPOTUS complains of being asked questions about her background.

But here's a little news flash for all those reporters and commentators: I'm not going to Washington to seek their good opinion. I'm going to Washington to serve the people of this country. Americans expect us to go to Washington for the right reasons, and not just to mingle with the right people.

Politics isn't just a game of clashing parties and competing interests.

The right reason is to challenge the status quo, to serve the common good, and to leave this nation better than we found it.

No one expects us to agree on everything.

But we are expected to govern with integrity, good will, clear convictions, and ... a servant's heart.


I pledge to all Americans that I will carry myself in this spirit as vice president of the United States. This was the spirit that brought me to the governor's office, when I took on the old politics as usual in Juneau ... when I stood up to the special interests, the lobbyists, big oil companies, and the good-ol' boys network.(L2)

Read all about Palin's relationship with Ted Stevens/Jack Abramoff lobbyist Steven Silver here

Sudden and relentless reform never sits well with entrenched interests and power brokers. That's why true reform is so hard to achieve.

But with the support of the citizens of Alaska, we shook things up.

And in short order we put the government of our state back on the side of the people.

I came to office promising major ethics reform, to end the culture of self-dealing. And today, that ethics reform is the law.

While I was at it, I got rid of a few things in the governor's office that I didn't believe our citizens should have to pay for.

That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay.

I also drive myself to work.

And I thought we could muddle through without the governor's personal chef — although I've got to admit that sometimes my kids sure miss her. I came to office promising to control spending — by request if possible and by veto if necessary.


Sen. McCain also promises to use the power of veto in defense of the public interest — and as a chief executive, I can assure you it works.

Our state budget is under control.(D4)

But the Wasilla budget ended up $20M in the red. Palin was Wasilla mayor for 6 years, she's only had 20 months to tear into the AK budget.

We have a surplus.

And I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending: nearly half a billion dollars in vetoes.

I suspended the state fuel tax and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress.(L3)

Palin received $27M of federal money as mayor of Wasilla, and requested $198M as Gov of AK.

http://wcco.com/politics/reality.check.governor.2.808822.html

I told the Congress "thanks, but no thanks," for that Bridge to Nowhere.
(L4)

palin-nowhere.jpg

If our state wanted a bridge, we'd build it ourselves. When oil and gas prices went up dramatically, and filled up the state treasury, I sent a large share of that revenue back where it belonged — directly to the people of Alaska.

And despite fierce opposition from oil company lobbyists, who kind of liked things the way they were, we broke their monopoly on power and resources.

As governor, I insisted on competition and basic fairness to end their control of our state and return it to the people.

I fought to bring about the largest private-sector infrastructure project in North American history.

And when that deal was struck, we began a nearly 40 billion-dollar natural gas pipeline to help lead America to energy independence.

That pipeline, when the last section is laid and its valves are opened, will lead America one step farther away from dependence on dangerous foreign powers that do not have our interests at heart.

The stakes for our nation could not be higher.

When a hurricane strikes in the Gulf of Mexico, this country should not be so dependent on imported oil that we are forced to draw from our Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

And families cannot throw away more and more of their paychecks on gas and heating oil.

With Russia wanting to control a vital pipeline in the Caucasus, and to divide and intimidate our European allies by using energy as a weapon, we cannot leave ourselves at the mercy of foreign suppliers.

To confront the threat that Iran might seek to cut off nearly a fifth of world energy supplies ... or that terrorists might strike again at the Abqaiq facility in Saudi Arabia ... or that Venezuela might shut off its oil deliveries ... we Americans need to produce more of our own oil and gas.

And take it from a gal who knows the North Slope of Alaska: We've got lots of both.

Our opponents say, again and again, that drilling will not solve all of America's energy problems — as if we all didn't know that already.

But the fact that drilling won't solve every problem is no excuse to do nothing at all.

Starting in January, in a McCain-Palin administration, we're going to lay more pipelines ... build more nuclear plants ... create jobs with clean coal ... and move forward on solar, wind, geothermal and other alternative sources.

We need American energy resources, brought to you by American ingenuity, and produced by American workers.
I've noticed a pattern with our opponent.

Maybe you have, too.

We've all heard his dramatic speeches before devoted followers.

And there is much to like and admire about our opponent.

But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state Senate.(L5)

King_slender proves he has a use to this forum by carrying his tag

This is a man who can give an entire speech about the wars America is fighting and never use the word "victory" except when he's talking about his own campaign.(L6)

Obama is committed to capturing bin Laden (unlike...George W. Bush), and has spoken of "victory against al-Qaida" on multiple public occasions.

But when the cloud of rhetoric has passed ... when the roar of the crowd fades away ... when the stadium lights go out, and those Styrofoam Greek columns are hauled back to some studio lot — what exactly is our opponent's plan? What does he actually seek to accomplish, after he's done turning back the waters and healing the planet? The answer is to make government bigger ... take more of your money(L7)

tax_chart_2.gif


... give you more orders from Washington ... and to reduce the strength of America in a dangerous world(L8). America needs more energy ... our opponent is against producing it.(L9)

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/defense/

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/energy/

Victory in Iraq is finally in sight(D5) ... he wants to forfeit.

:lol :lol :lol

Terrorist states are seeking nuclear weapons without delay ... he wants to meet them without preconditions.(D6)

Dissembling rather than outright lying here. The implication is that Obama will pander and bend over backwards for rogue states. The reality (repeated multiple times), is that Obama will use diplomacy as a first resort, and save military intervention as a last resort.

Al-Qaida terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America ... he's worried that someone won't read them their rights?(D7) Government is too big ... he wants to grow it.

I'd just class this as "bullshit".

Congress spends too much ... he promises more.

Taxes are too high ... he wants to raise them. His tax increases are the fine print in his economic plan, and let me be specific.

The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes (L7)... raise payroll taxes ... raise investment income taxes ... raise the death tax ... raise business taxes ... and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars(L7). My sister Heather and her husband have just built a service station that's now opened for business — like millions of others who run small businesses.

See above.

How are they going to be any better off if taxes go up? Or maybe you're trying to keep your job at a plant in Michigan or Ohio ... or create jobs with clean coal from Pennsylvania or West Virginia ... or keep a small farm in the family right here in Minnesota.

How are you going to be better off if our opponent adds a massive tax burden to the American economy? Here's how I look at the choice Americans face in this election.

In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their careers.

And then there are those, like John McCain, who use their careers to promote change.

They're the ones whose names appear on laws and landmark reforms, not just on buttons and banners, or on self-designed presidential seals.

Among politicians, there is the idealism of high-flown speechmaking, in which crowds are stirringly summoned to support great things.

And then there is the idealism of those leaders, like John McCain, who actually do great things. They're the ones who are good for more than talk ... the ones we have always been able to count on to serve and defend America. Sen. McCain's record of actual achievement and reform helps explain why so many special interests, lobbyists and comfortable committee chairmen in Congress have fought the prospect of a McCain presidency — from the primary election of 2000 to this very day.

Our nominee doesn't run with the Washington herd.

He's a man who's there to serve his country, and not just his party.

A leader who's not looking for a fight, but is not afraid of one either. Harry Reid, the majority leader of the current do-nothing Senate, not long ago summed up his feelings about our nominee.

He said, quote, "I can't stand John McCain." Ladies and gentlemen, perhaps no accolade we hear this week is better proof that we've chosen the right man. Clearly what the majority leader was driving at is that he can't stand up to John McCain. That is only one more reason to take the maverick of the Senate and put him in the White House. My fellow citizens, the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of "personal discovery." This world of threats and dangers is not just a community, and it doesn't just need an organizer.

And though both Sen. Obama and Sen. Biden have been going on lately about how they are always, quote, "fighting for you," let us face the matter squarely.

There is only one man in this election who has ever really fought for you ... in places where winning means survival and defeat means death ... and that man is John McCain. In our day, politicians have readily shared much lesser tales of adversity than the nightmare world in which this man, and others equally brave, served and suffered for their country.

It's a long way from the fear and pain and squalor of a 6-by-4 cell in Hanoi to the Oval Office.

But if Sen. McCain is elected president, that is the journey he will have made.

It's the journey of an upright and honorable man — the kind of fellow whose name you will find on war memorials in small towns across this country, only he was among those who came home.

To the most powerful office on Earth, he would bring the compassion that comes from having once been powerless ... the wisdom that comes even to the captives, by the grace of God ... the special confidence of those who have seen evil, and seen how evil is overcome. A fellow prisoner of war, a man named Tom Moe of Lancaster, Ohio, recalls looking through a pinhole in his cell door as Lt. Cmdr. John McCain was led down the hallway, by the guards, day after day.

As the story is told, "When McCain shuffled back from torturous interrogations, he would turn toward Moe's door and flash a grin and thumbs up" — as if to say, "We're going to pull through this." My fellow Americans, that is the kind of man America needs to see us through these next four years.

For a season, a gifted speaker can inspire with his words.

For a lifetime, John McCain has inspired with his deeds.

If character is the measure in this election ... and hope the theme ... and change the goal we share, then I ask you to join our cause. Join our cause and help America elect a great man as the next president of the United States.

Thank you all, and may God bless America."
 

tanod

when is my burrito
chubigans said:
Agree on what?

That abortion should be legal with tight restrictions. The more important issue is and always will be to decrease unwanted pregnancies and providing support to women so that they don't get abortions. Obama recognizes that.

Abortions have increased over the last 8 years, by the way. That's the Republican record.
 

Cheebs

Member
quadriplegicjon said:
bundler? what does that mean?
People who bundle up donations from people they know into one lump sum to donate iirc. Regardless, gaffers have raised be it from their own cash or gotten cash from others over 75k for Obama.
 
Dirtbag 504 said:
Usually kids are liberals while they are young and educated.

Then they take that education and get jobs, and magically arent liberals anymore. :lol

I have no idea if this is true, this is just spewing out

Some get frustrated and unsatisfied with their lives and start blaming others, carry that anger around, and those people usually go on to become the batshit conservatives.
 

gcubed

Member
Dirtbag 504 said:
Usually kids are liberals while they are young and educated.

Then they take that education and get jobs, and magically arent liberals anymore. :lol

I have no idea if this is true, this is just spewing out


thats the usual take on it, i'm more traditional conservative then I am liberal... the only problem is the republican party as it is currently is not at all conservative. I like small fiscally conservative government, not this garbage
 

Gaborn

Member
gcubed said:
thats the usual take on it, i'm more traditional conservative then I am liberal... the only problem is the republican party as it is currently is not at all conservative. I like small fiscally conservative government, not this garbage

Which... is a good reason to vote for Barr.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Just join the group (I just joined) and then donate. I gave $5. It's all I can right now but I HAD to give something. I am so mad. I am so pissed off.

Most of all I am sick to my stomach.
 
Dirtbag 504 said:
Usually kids are liberals while they are young and educated.

Then they take that education and get jobs (and get a taste for paying taxes), and magically arent liberals anymore. :lol

I have no idea if this is true, this is just spewing out
Yeah, well . . . I'm old I'm left-libertarian. Socially liberal but want fiscal conservatism . . . (which is pretty much the exact opposite of the GOP.)

Wait . . . did I say fiscal conservatism?

GOPAndDemDeficitCartoon.jpg
 

Jak140

Member
PrivateWHudson said:
I listened to that and don't get the big deal at all. Am I missing something? Sounds like from their point of view the lady was being a bitch and they called her one. Palin chuckled. So what.

Apparently it was damaging enough that the McCain campaign tried to kill it by suppressing free speech and claiming "copyright infringement."
 
harSon said:
Calling a Cancer survivor a "Cancer" is pretty fucked up in my book.

From the interview, it sounds like she was a cancer in the Alaskan government. Just because she had cancer doesn't mean that the word still can't apply to her. Seriously should we start calling it the "C" word now?
 

MThanded

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
Just my thoughts and my experiences

What I wrote before the speech but did not have time to post.

I would just like to put some stuff out there. You want to know the people who really feel it when the republicans spew this crap and there bad economic policies get in place.. My parents have owned there own company for a while now and they are the only two people who work there. My dad is an industrial hygienist (indoor air quality, lead testing, mold testing) and they have been doing pretty well and by pretty well I mean they can keep the house have food and do what they need to do. We only have used cars no new cars and my parents are very fiscally responsible people. I have been away from home for a while now since I am in college and have had an internship ever summer. Luckily I was able to get a full scholarship to my school or this computer engineering degree would have really put them in debt. This summer I was home for a week before my last semester here and I sat down and talked to my mom about the business and it was really heartbreaking. Since the decline in the economy it has been a lot tougher for them. No one wants to spend money for services so it’s hard to get business. With this jacked up healthcare system my parents have to pay a ridiculous amount of money a month for health insurance and since they are getting older they insurance company has jacked the price up ridiculously. I am sure this is a reality for a lot more small businesses around the country. You want to support the growth of businesses in America and not just big business then put your money where your mouth is republicans and fix the damn economy and stop lying through your teeth. Not everyone has it easy. Your not going to fix anything and I know this.

What I wrote after the speech


After watching the speeches today I do not think I could ever be a republican after this. Sarah stop lying on the bridge to nowhere. Stop saying that community service is laughable because its not. I really resent that. As a student I have done a lot of work in the community and been involved with different mentoring programs and such and to see someone laugh at Obama for what he’s done has actually made me felt like they have no idea what is going on in the world. They aren’t for change unless the change is bad

On another point stop using religion as your party platform. Not everyone in the US is a Christian. Enough said on that point.

Great job pimping your family. You guys really milked it after barrack let it go and said he would not be touching family issues you know that he cant touch that crap and you milked the hell out of it.

Lets stop our oil dependency by drilling for more oil.

I am truly worried about the future of this country more than I ever have been. After seeing the RNC and what they are willing to do to win.
 

chubigans

y'all should be ashamed
tanod said:
That abortion should be legal with tight restrictions. The more important issue is and always will be to decrease unwanted pregnancies and providing support to women so that they don't get abortions. Obama recognizes that.
I see. I'm not really all that up to date on his stances, so I'll have to check that out. Thanks. :D
 
So far, judging on this convetion, I'd say that Steve Schmidt is right up there with Mark Penn on the incompetence-o-meter. They needed to do a much better job of A) getting a coherent message together and B) making the speeches match the speaker.
 

kevm3

Member
We can do more than donate. Why don't we get together and figure out how to conduct some kind of online campaign? Create some videos, spread them, etc... maybe work together with some other forums... I really want to do anything I can so we don't get McCain and Palin in office. We need Barack and Biden in there. Come on, let's brainstorm.
 

johnsmith

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PrivateWHudson said:
From the interview, it sounds like she was a cancer in the Alaskan government. Just because she had cancer doesn't mean that the word still can't apply to her. Seriously should we start calling it the "C" word now?

Republicans are a cancer on this nation.
 

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PrivateWHudson said:
From the interview, it sounds like she was a cancer in the Alaskan government. Just because she had cancer doesn't mean that the word still can't apply to her. Seriously should we start calling it the "C" word now?

Well, it was a lack of professionalism in general, really. Of course, we know tonight this woman has no professionalism at all.
 
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