CharlieDigital
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reilo said:
Nobody seizes an opportunity to benefit from the suffering of Americans quite like Republicans.
PoliGAF Thread of Republican's Turn at Conventions (Palin VP - READ OP)
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Nobody seizes an opportunity to benefit from the suffering of Americans quite like Republicans.
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fuck, they're taking advantage of the opportunity :-/reilo said:
Does it amaze anyone else how close the popular vote is split year to year? Like what are the odds of the country being split literally down the middle? I'd think that it would lean fairly decisively one way or another.
There's probably some concept I need to apply here that causes this 50/50 split, but it's curious to me nevertheless.
There's probably some concept I need to apply here that causes this 50/50 split, but it's curious to me nevertheless.
CharlieDigital
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BTW, anyone know where I can find some outdoors/weatherproof Obama/Biden signs for my lawn?
Can't seem to find them on the official website. They only have a weatherproofed Obama sign.
Can't seem to find them on the official website. They only have a weatherproofed Obama sign.
ryutaro's mama
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reilo said:
But it will get McCain brownie points with voters.
"While the Dems were partying last week, WE were more concerned with Gustav and helping the needy.Thanks in advance for your support and vote."
ryutaro's mama
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reilo said:Do they really want to go that path and then be reminded of Katrina?
McCain would be able to show that, "See, I'm more interested in helping.I'm not Bush,see?SEE?"
Some will buy it.
Unfortunately.
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I wonder how much that cake cost.
Because if you are going to be the head of a country and not be there when part of it is in need in order to celebrate the birthday of a fellow countryman, it better be a damn good cake.
Because if you are going to be the head of a country and not be there when part of it is in need in order to celebrate the birthday of a fellow countryman, it better be a damn good cake.
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GhaleonEB said:
I'm talking about the Gustav "help", not the pic.
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Dax01 said:
It's a lie though.
RiskyChris
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McCain said:
I'm glad he has to make that distinction.
BenjaminBirdie
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Man, watching Pawlenty parrot the talking points and swallowing uncomfortably on Meet The Press shows just how calamitously fucked the GOP is. I think he answered like one question the whole time.
echoshifting
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Went with the telethon eh...still think postponing the RNC would have been the best route. Really a no-win though.
Obama can counter everything they potentially gain here by making the same moves, and they have to walk the exploitation/humanitarian tightrope.
Obama can counter everything they potentially gain here by making the same moves, and they have to walk the exploitation/humanitarian tightrope.
BenjaminBirdie
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Did Doris Kearns Goodwin just say "wack"?
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echoshifting said:
I can see it now. Some Republican will be on TV saying how the Dems are just copying the GOP and raising money for the hurricane victims, trying to gain political points. Irony and hilarious will ensue.
BenjaminBirdie
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Jason's Ultimatum said:
What's really terrible is that someone, somewhere is going to look at the donation numbers and it's going to turn into an Apprentice episode.
PhoenixDark
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If they go along and have a conventional convention they risk criticism and claims they don't care about the storm victims. If they try to have a convention while also attempting to bring in donations for the victims they risk criticism of being called opportunistic. It's a lose lose situation but I'd rather be criticized while helping the victims
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=5694357
George Will: "I think the republicans are more united now with the Palin pick than the DNC after their convention by the disinfection by some of the core Clinton constituency... Second, he raises the questions of qualifications. There is more to the qualifications of high executive office than experience. There is the qualification of understanding the constitutional principles of limited government and the culture of corruption that inevitably develops and abandons limited government... and she understands that."
Where the fuck do they find these people? THERE IS MORE TO THE QUALIFICATIONS OF HIGH EXECUTIVE OFFICE THAN EXPERIENCE?! That's not what he was fucking saying FIVE DAYS AGO!!!!!!!
George Will: "I think the republicans are more united now with the Palin pick than the DNC after their convention by the disinfection by some of the core Clinton constituency... Second, he raises the questions of qualifications. There is more to the qualifications of high executive office than experience. There is the qualification of understanding the constitutional principles of limited government and the culture of corruption that inevitably develops and abandons limited government... and she understands that."
Where the fuck do they find these people? THERE IS MORE TO THE QUALIFICATIONS OF HIGH EXECUTIVE OFFICE THAN EXPERIENCE?! That's not what he was fucking saying FIVE DAYS AGO!!!!!!!
We'll see how much coverage any of this will actually get. The cable channels were all too eager to cut away and blather on about the speeches while people were still speaking. For Christ's sake, Olbermann was reading Obama's speech on-air before he gave it.
They'll have to walk a fine line between hitting their now dwindling talking points, attacking democrats and begging for hurricane relief money without politicizing it. I just don't think they can juggle those three things without someone going overboard. That's not even mentioning the expected Katrina callbacks the media will be hitting all week.
They'll have to walk a fine line between hitting their now dwindling talking points, attacking democrats and begging for hurricane relief money without politicizing it. I just don't think they can juggle those three things without someone going overboard. That's not even mentioning the expected Katrina callbacks the media will be hitting all week.
echoshifting
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methane47 said:
I'm pretty sure this whole ridiculous line of thought has been banned from the thread. And even if it hasn't it's obnoxious at this point.
A disgusting reality of Gustav and probably Hanna is that the more destruction they cause, the more suffering and chaos reported by the media the further it will weaken the Republican ticket.
I know some people are thinking it. I hope no one even attempts to politicise the aftermath.
I know some people are thinking it. I hope no one even attempts to politicise the aftermath.
I wonder what the ratings will be like. While a call to action is honorable and needed in this situation it is well to put it bluntly boring compared to the drama and insanity leading into the dem convention. Viewers like drama and excitement. Telethons? Not so much. It will be interesting to compare the ratings.
Between the Clinton drama (which, in hindsight, the dems played off of masterfully at the convention) and the build up to Obama (for a lot of people, this was the first time they would have seen a speech of his), it's going to be hard to top, in terms of anticipation or build up.Cheebs said:
The cynical side of me thinks this is actually the result of the GOP realizing that their conference was going to be in competition with Gustav, so they decided to tie their convention to it in order to get more attention. Which is kind clever, yet sad.
Freedom = $1.05
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echoshifting said:
O Rly?
its rather ridiculous, yes. But this show is too awesome not to reference :lol
echoshifting
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Well this is all pointless navel-gazing now but I don't think even a regular convention could've come close. So much drama as Ghaleon already mentioned, and McCain is already pretty well established in the minds of those who care, whereas Obama was something of a cypher to many of the curious.
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Freedom = $1.05 said:
O Rly?
its rather ridiculous, yes. But this show is too awesome not to reference :lol
:lol :lol :lol :lol
Ignatz Mouse
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reilo said:
There was a time when I respected George Will. I can't believe he said this.
Tyrone Slothrop
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ruh roh
palin may be a formidable opponent for biden after all. after watching meet the press it seems to me she has his number on his credit card legislation fuckups and his voting against an alaskan pipeline that happened to bring in a ton of revenue.
palin may be a formidable opponent for biden after all. after watching meet the press it seems to me she has his number on his credit card legislation fuckups and his voting against an alaskan pipeline that happened to bring in a ton of revenue.
UltimaKilo
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Tyrone Slothrop said:
She was on MTP? I haven't downloaded the podcast yet.
Tyrone Slothrop
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UltimaKilo said:
no but clips of an interview with her were shown
UltimaKilo said:
She wasn't; it was a clip from Maria Bartiromo's interview from last week. It's an opening, but one she's going to be hard pressed to take advantage of, let alone in person, by Biden who will know far more about the legislation and the economic ramifications than she will. An unchallenged clip is not much of anything. The Alaskan pipeline issue is a walk in the park since it ignores the larger issue of the energy policy and comes off as rather myopic. The promise of 5 million "green jobs", the talk about getting off oil as a national security issue, and her belief that global warming isn't at least in part man-made, will doom her more than Biden's oppposition.
And as I'm listening to George Will, I have to sort of take back a bit of my comments towards reilo. He just uttered a stunning piece of ignorance when he suggested that the Palin pick may have unified the party more than the Democrats.
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