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PoliGAF Thread of Republican's Turn at Conventions (Palin VP - READ OP)
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So, more anecdotal.. My dad who is pretty conservative, although more recently has labeled himself "moderate", told me today that he thought the choice of Palin essentially threw away McCain's chances of winning. He was pretty disgusted that McCain would put someone who he believes would be entirely incapable of running the country so close to that actual position.
He also told me he is going to start reading in depth about Obama's plans, for whom he may vote! Woo
He also told me he is going to start reading in depth about Obama's plans, for whom he may vote! Woo
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gluv65 said:
Lieberman was on Face The Nation this morning with the talking points memo in hand.
I really don't mean to bait, but I've run the story by a couple of my friends (who, like me, grew up steeped in the conservative, religious culture of the south) and they all think it would be neutral or positive thing if true. (hooray for anecdotal evidence!)Crayon Shinchan said:
Well, that's fair, but weren't you listing the negatives of the baby coverup story before? Or did you just mean how she hid her own pregnancy until a fairly late point in it?killakiz said:
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Trakdown said:
Holy shit. The kicker is that he's playing with his ring while he does it. What does this mean!?!
We need some psychologists in here NOW!
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Haunted said:
Yeah, this. He's checking out the speech.
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When asked whether he'd drag Hill's "skeletons out of the closet":
Win.
Barack Obama said:
Win.
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Why I support the man.CharlieDigital said:
Raising the level of discourse. It helps that his speeches make me weepy and proud.
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It's funny I was watching Rove on Fox a few days ago, and they asked if he had any advice to McCain about picking his running mate, and basically he said his only advice was to pick the person he wants and don't do it for political reasons.
Other than conflicting reports that Rove insisted on staying away from Lieberman (IMO, McCain's first choice if he could pick anyone) he chose someone he had NO prior relationship with for completely political purposes. Interesting.
Can I also take this time to rant? Palin keeps going on about "cracking that glass ceiling", but here's the problem: she didn't accomplish anything and this would do nothing for women in politics. At least Clinton garnered tons of support in her election bid and really elevated herself to being seen as a presidential figure. This woman has achieved NOTHING. Women in general have achieved nothing by this pick.
In fact I could argue the opposite is true, that picking a woman for the sole fact she's a socially conservative (and somewhat attractive) woman is a stick in the eye to Clinton and what she's achieved this year. Palin is simply pandering to women to try and garner support, and unless they're idiots, it won't work. But I get puzzled when I here how this is a great step for women, or it is breaking barriers; it's none of those things.
Other than conflicting reports that Rove insisted on staying away from Lieberman (IMO, McCain's first choice if he could pick anyone) he chose someone he had NO prior relationship with for completely political purposes. Interesting.
Can I also take this time to rant? Palin keeps going on about "cracking that glass ceiling", but here's the problem: she didn't accomplish anything and this would do nothing for women in politics. At least Clinton garnered tons of support in her election bid and really elevated herself to being seen as a presidential figure. This woman has achieved NOTHING. Women in general have achieved nothing by this pick.
In fact I could argue the opposite is true, that picking a woman for the sole fact she's a socially conservative (and somewhat attractive) woman is a stick in the eye to Clinton and what she's achieved this year. Palin is simply pandering to women to try and garner support, and unless they're idiots, it won't work. But I get puzzled when I here how this is a great step for women, or it is breaking barriers; it's none of those things.
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killakiz said:
Its even more "game" when we have some solid facts from trusted sources. Until then its hearsay of the worst kind. If you're seeking "change" this election season then its time to look in the mirror before you keep this up.
And a junior senator with zero executive experience who votes "present" 130 times and who does do-over press releases to finally arrive at a position should be closer to those nuclear launch codes? Oh right - he has "judgement". The same judgment that has manifested itself in choosing a racist pastor and running an education program with an unrepentant terrorist.
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140.85 said:
*rolls eyes*
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140.85 said:
You can't be serious? You just turned Obama into a radical religious terrorist, all by association. *gobcmon!.gif*
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so_awes said:
While playing with his ring? I really don't think so.
Xisiqomelir
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Okay, someone tell me NotHerBaby-gate is fake, because at the moment I'm getting serious "too unbelievable to not be true" vibes.
Price Dalton
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140.85 said:
Sean, how'd you find GAF?
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140.85 said:
As opposed to being under investigation over possible abuses of power and having led a state with a smaller populace than the suburb I live in?
See, at least I'm using some facts here.
140.85 said:
130 times out of over 4000 votes! thats what, oh, i dont know, like a little over 3%! Not to mention if you didnt just mirror talking heads and eat everything force-feed to you, you would learn that 45 of those present votes were because republicans were trying to force no votes on democrats in conservative districts on controversial subjects using some of the most silly measures ive ever seen. If you even did more research you may find out that present votes in Illinois are used differently than in other states. Like as a protest or as a way to step aside a bi-partisan issue you may feel different about but accept the consensus. Thanks, try again next time!
But try this one! Bet you cant guess who the most absent senator, missing over 65% of the votes in the last two years?
Crayon Shinchan
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Sorry, but Obama has proven himself in plenty more ways than just having larger numbers in the 'years of experience in senate' field.
His political accomplishments are several magnitudes greater than 'mayor of bumblefuck town nowhere'... and more importantly... he's laid out in great detail what he intends to do to fix the country, backed up by detailed analysis and historic precedents.
It's like comparing a college MVP (of which he was the academic equivalent) to someone that plays in her local sports club, and citing that because neither of them had enough NBA experience, that they're on equal grounds.
Trakdown said:
Aside from the fact it'd be an unwise line of questioning by Obama for obvious reasons, the context of his comments are not exactly what you seem to think they are. Keep in mind McCain worked with the Vietnamese for decades after the war regarding recovering soldiers bodies.
Jak140 - No one would survive that drinking game.
kkaabboomm
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cashman said:can someone please put this picture in avatar form for me?
but but its been mine for EVER! : (
Matthew Gallant said:We've already got one!
If elected, HNNNNNNGGG
:lol :lol :lol
I don't really find that scenario funny, what I found most funny was that "HNNNNNNGGG" is probably the best way to transliterate someone having a heart attack.
And McCain is clearly looking at her speech script in that video.
After seeing Obama's acceptance speech, and a decent amount of the Democratic Convention, I don't see how anyone who considers themselves an intelligent person not vote for him.
I'll be keeping an eye on the Republican convention. The question is, will it be delayed until the entire Hurricane is over? Or are they just dropping the first couple days for show?
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