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PoliGAF Thread of Republican's Turn at Conventions (Palin VP - READ OP)
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MassiveAttack
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So this photo makes sense now...
What?
This is not the way to shed the best light on your candidate 3 days after the announcement. Did anyone from the campaign even talk to her let alone vet her?!
Today, sure, but this is not going to disappear because of Gustav. That's amazing, almost unheard of drama.
This is not the way to shed the best light on your candidate 3 days after the announcement. Did anyone from the campaign even talk to her let alone vet her?!
omg rite said:
Today, sure, but this is not going to disappear because of Gustav. That's amazing, almost unheard of drama.
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
So judging by the reaction i'm assuming Palin was running with Abstinence values?
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
What does vet mean anyways? It keeps getting thrown around and I feel left out :Xgkrykewy said:
Stoney Mason
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Just hit CNN.com as breaking news.
CharlieDigital
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The sad (and somewhat humorous thing) is that these people, time and again, fail to realize their own hypocrisy and failed ideals of "family values".
Premarital sex? Check.
Unmarried daughter who's pregnant? Check.
Failure of "Christian" and so called "family" values? Check.
This is so MEGA-LOL-FAILUREAMTOTAL-WORTHY...
Premarital sex? Check.
Unmarried daughter who's pregnant? Check.
Failure of "Christian" and so called "family" values? Check.
This is so MEGA-LOL-FAILUREAMTOTAL-WORTHY...
"Sweetie, this nomination means that we're going to go through a lot of media scrutiny. Fact that you're teenaged pregnant will have to be made known not only the church and school, but everyone in the United States. A lot of people will be mocking you and calling your immoral and others will just laugh. I'll be busy and wont be able to help you during this time of need. So after carefully considering the facts I've decided. I'm going to run. Love ya, Bye!"
Xisiqomelir
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Man, I wonder how much baby daddy is getting from the GOP slush fund to agree to the shotgun wedding. Possibly the first irresponsible teenager ever to bank a 6-7 figure paycheck from his mistakes?
Well now we know, hopefully that kills the baby conspiracy forEVER.
The actual conclusion is nothing special. As a parent, you can only do so much to prevent your child from doing this sort of thing no matter what you preach. That difficulty was probably compounded by the fact that Palin was a hard working mother who was obviously not able to be there all the time.
I don't think many Americans will give a shit, or if they do it'd be in the form of minor sympathy. Millions of Americans have teenagers who get pregnant, unfortunately.
The actual conclusion is nothing special. As a parent, you can only do so much to prevent your child from doing this sort of thing no matter what you preach. That difficulty was probably compounded by the fact that Palin was a hard working mother who was obviously not able to be there all the time.
I don't think many Americans will give a shit, or if they do it'd be in the form of minor sympathy. Millions of Americans have teenagers who get pregnant, unfortunately.
I can't believe that the same PoliGAFers who spent weeks ranting about how Rev. Wright was a non-issue, who talked about how what really mattered was the candidates, not who the candidates knew, who just yesterday were complaining about people getting all wrapped up in little issues that hardly matter while ignoring big issues that really matter, spent the last several days speculating about Palin's youngest child actually belonging to her daughter, and are now laughing and celebrating about Palin's daughter being pregnant.
Hypocrisy FTW.
Hypocrisy FTW.
CharlieDigital
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Gaborn said:
Good thing she passed down those pro-contraception views to her daughter.
LOL.
Yeah, keep defending her. First, she was for contraception, except when it came to her own daughter.
Are you serious Gaborn?
ronito said:
Based on what? The daughter would face scrutiny regardless. And this issue is going to come up and Palin is going to defend her and most likely provide finacial support for the child. So she should't run to be the VP because her daugher had sex. Get over yourself.
Crayon Shinchan
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Alright guys, back on point.
Sarah Palin is a desperate pandering pick of a VP, that hasn't been vetted in the least and is extremely poorly qualified in merits (combination of achievements and executive experience) that shows how poor McCain's judgement skills are.
Remember when they thought W. Bush's maverickness was cute too? When he routinely ignored his advisors in favour of his gut instincts?
A good leader doesn't ignore his advisors; he takes on board what he has to say and carefully considers the outcome and weighs it against his own judgement.
In this case, it shows McCains judgement is poor; he went for the surprise factor and the pandering... neither of which will last. The only leg that palin has left to stand on is her ultra-conservatism... and if that's what McCain wanted, there would've been many more qualified candidates to choose from.
Sarah Palin is a desperate pandering pick of a VP, that hasn't been vetted in the least and is extremely poorly qualified in merits (combination of achievements and executive experience) that shows how poor McCain's judgement skills are.
Remember when they thought W. Bush's maverickness was cute too? When he routinely ignored his advisors in favour of his gut instincts?
A good leader doesn't ignore his advisors; he takes on board what he has to say and carefully considers the outcome and weighs it against his own judgement.
In this case, it shows McCains judgement is poor; he went for the surprise factor and the pandering... neither of which will last. The only leg that palin has left to stand on is her ultra-conservatism... and if that's what McCain wanted, there would've been many more qualified candidates to choose from.
Funny thing is, the GOP would be sticking it to a Democrat candidate if this happened. Mostly because the whole family values thing matters more to the hardcore right of the Republicans than any Democrats. I really wonder what the GOP will do. Announcing it during Hurricane coverage is probably the smartest thing done about it thus far.beermonkey@tehbias said:
GhaleonEB said:
That was a good read, but at the same time it truly frustrated me, as it confirmed what I always believe. That pretty much everything he was spouting to the public was bullshit, that he never once actually LISTENED to a speech by Obama (in 1.5 years of Obama campaigning), that he was only an enemy to be destroyed at any measure and by all means. Yes, I know in his position its obviously his job, but maybe if he had the mental fortitude to try acknowledge reality near the end, he could have had influence in easing down the rhetoric and not burning as many bridges as the campaign did, and perhaps skip the desperate final throes by the campaign where it got particularly divisive. This contributed to and fed the irrational staunch hatred of Obama that many Clinton supporters developed.
These people always come back and repent after all the damage is done.
omg rite said:
...no I'm not maybe it is against christian family values but good family values are loving your children even when they are in unfavorable circumstances. And her daugher getting pregnant makes Palin a bad mom now? thoughts like these are why teen girls face scrutiny for getting pregnant.
CharlieDigital
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Amir0x said:
But you can still provide contraception and proper education on the usage of contraception. If she's for contraception -- and we can only assume she practices what she preaches (not!) -- then how does this happen?
Beer Monkey
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TDG said:
There's a difference between laughing and celebrating about the girl herself being pregnant and laughing and celebrating over the complete dysfunction of the McCain camp when it comes to vetting re: one of the most important decisions they will ever make.
CharlieDigital
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HolyStar said:
1) She failed to teach her daughter about contraception
2) She failed as a candidate to live by her ideals and so called "Christian family values" (no premarital sex, no children out of wedlock)
3) She failed to consider her child's mental and emotional well being before accepting the nomination.
typhonsentra
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Wow, talk about a weird turn of events.
The Librarian
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She's only 17? What the fuck?
Tyrone Slothrop
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cheney's daughter being a lesbo didn't make a splash, as i guess this won't. it's non-news, imo
CharlieDigital: Ok, let's not read too much into that and draw automatic conclusions. Yes, it's an example of where contraception would have helped and it would have been an important lesson, but there's no way as of yet to PROVE Sarah Palin didn't teach her about it. Suspect, sure, but nothing definitively. Regardless, children don't always follow their parents.
For the record, I don't care about Palin's daughter's baby. I didn't care about Edward's possible baby. I didn't care about Bill getting a blowjob. I didn't care about Bush Senior's supposed affair. I didn't care about Reagan's estranged family. I didn't care about Carter's "lust in his heart".
I care about the issues. I care about what they're going to do in office. I don't care where they put their genitals, or what they do with them.
I care about the issues. I care about what they're going to do in office. I don't care where they put their genitals, or what they do with them.
ronito said:
Then "even MORMONS" are logically inconsistant and irrational on this point.
Apparently you do want to have this conversation. Fine.
Fundamentally, feminism is a belief in the rights and equality of women, gender equity.
Susan B. Anthony was unquestionably a women's rights advocate. She was also strongly opposed to abortion. Does she not count?
I understand that abortion proponents have decided to frame the issue in that context. I wholly disagree. All this whining about controlling bodies and sexism when that's the furthest thing from the minds of their adversaries.
Also, I'm sure you realize that your support for abortion is completely against the position of your church, you're an extreme minority, and I'm sure some of your peers would decry you as not really being a supporter of the church no matter what other values you may share with them, which sounds kind of familiar and relevant to what we're talking about.
Edit: woah, there's been a bazillion posts since I started writing this.
CharlieDigital said:
How does this happen? Is this a joke?
Do you know how many parents across the country PREACH to their kids to use condoms if they must have sex? How many parents PREACH to their kids to stay away from drugs?
How does this happen?
It's the real world. Kids don't listen to parents.
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