Fragamemnon
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deadbeef said:
It's an anecdote, chill. As for my other comment in that post, it was more directed to Palin's disastrous, Dan Quayle esque polling numbers and gross miscalculation on the McCain's part.
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PoliGAF Thread of Republican's Turn at Conventions (Palin VP - READ OP)
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It's an anecdote, chill. As for my other comment in that post, it was more directed to Palin's disastrous, Dan Quayle esque polling numbers and gross miscalculation on the McCain's part.
Stoney Mason
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Some of the Obama numbers after the convention aren't really hugely surprising for me. It was a very effective convention I thought with some good drama and some good keynote speeches. I went back and even re-watched Obama's speech and it was even better the second time once I wasn't anticipating what he'd say which is closer to how most regular people watched it. In additional it was probably the first time a lot of people had really seen him make a big speech and in that regard it had to be impressive for people after 8 years of George Bush quality level speeches.
Who is the key note speaker tonight for the RNC btw?
Who is the key note speaker tonight for the RNC btw?
Tommie Hu$tle
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reilo said:
Again I would ask you to look at that poll after the GOP finishes their convention. Right now the Dems are on a real high and they have an opportunity to improve the ground game even more than they have to date while the GOP hunkers down.
It depends on how the rest of this week plays out. I'm going to reserve judgement as to what is what until next Tuesday.
BenjaminBirdie
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Formless said:
Wait, you mean their collective four minutes is it for the day?
Tommie Hu$tle said:
Eh, what? McCain introducing Palin as his VP was supposed to diminish what the Dems did last week, and instead it has BACKFIRED massively. Not only is the media shitting on Palin left and right, but independents and moderates are fleeing en masse.
Stoney Mason
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laserbeam said:
Really? They are done for today?
The Librarian
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Guess so. The media is mainly talking about the hurricane right now, and with Bush not coming tonight... Yep, looks there is nothing else (major) happening with the RNC.BenjaminBirdie said:
http://portal.gopconvention2008.com/pressrelease/details.aspx?id=38Stoney Mason said:
On Monday, all program activities beyond the official business that must be conducted in accordance with party rules will be cancelled. Among the other actions announced today are the formation of the Affected States Working Group, the establishment of an Affected States Information Center, and the chartering of a DC-9 to transport affected delegates.
BenjaminBirdie
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ryutaro's mama
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Formless said:
I thought John Matrix said he wasn't gonna attend.
Stoney Mason
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laserbeam said:
Thx for the link. I did not know that (said in Johnny Carson voice)
That kinda puts more pressure on the rest.
Tommie Hu$tle
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reilo said:
She was introduced on a the Friday before a three day weekend. I don't think there was any fire.
I think we can agree that the vetting process was very weak. I don't see a backfire just yet. I think most people are holding their breath and waiting for her to speak before they start unloading with both barrels. The daughter, while a delicious bit of irony, in the grand scheme of things is a non-issue. Most reasonable people are going to steer clear of that issue directly.
gkrykewy said:
You should probably care more about what McCain thinks more than what I think. In the longer term I think it will hurt more than help but, for the short term gain that McCain is/was looking for I think it was a good pick. Could you name another VP canidate that would have helped him to gain more cred?
Ninja Scooter
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ryutaro's mama said:
He lied.
BenjaminBirdie
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ryutaro's mama said:
That's what I heard. Something about having to "get his 'blank' to Mars?" Maybe some NASA thing?
The Librarian
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I am definitely going to see the Governator's speech.
BenjaminBirdie
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Tommie Hu$tle said:
What are you on about, dude? This whole train wreck is getting as much coverage as LITERALLY, a Hurricane!!
A three-day weekend where working people can Google her record ad nauseam, and be reminded minute-by-minute of Katrina and its consequences.
They can also receive text messages from Obama urging donations with a few pushes of a button while their RSS feed automatically brings the Palin stories to their desktop.
Yeah.
They can also receive text messages from Obama urging donations with a few pushes of a button while their RSS feed automatically brings the Palin stories to their desktop.
Yeah.
Instigator
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Dax01 said:
FORE MOARE YEHARZE!
FORE MOARE YEHARZE!
FORE MOARE YEHARZE!
ryutaro's mama
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Instigator said:
McCain rhymes with McBain.
Tommie Hu$tle
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BenjaminBirdie said:
I'm not saying people aren't talking about it. But do you think people are going to go direct to it? I don't think so, what I think is that once she has her speech that's when people are going to take her on about her POLICY positions (which are far more important).
Secondly, McCain may see a bump after his convention. For eveyone to look at the poll numbers from the Democratic conventions and proclaim it as gospel, WITHOUT a rebuttal from the GOP is unwise.
What one can conclude from from the poll numbers is that Obama was extremely effective in addressing America and by any measure you can consider him and the convention a runaway success.
BenjaminBirdie
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ryutaro's mama said:
MENDOZAAAAAAAAAAA
BenjaminBirdie
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Tommie Hu$tle said:
You're absolutely looking at this the wrong way and what the real damage here is. It has nothing to do with Palin's policies or even the controversy around it. It is about McCain's horrifically bad judgement. It's about blowing the convention's focus. It's about blowing the party's message. It's about putting someone improperly vetted so close to being president.
Stoney Mason
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Tamanon said:
To be honest though I thought that was just a ploy and he would show up to excite the crowd and make a speech.
Tommie Hu$tle said:
Mike Huckabee would have given him the same benefits among evangelical nutters without any of this baggage, and without undercutting his experience argument to the same degree. The notion that Palin will be more attractive to moderates than Huckabee is being shown to not be the case.
BenjaminBirdie
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gkrykewy said:
Plus he'd have tons of direct regional appeal in a lot of states that are currently toss ups.
worldrunover
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Stoney Mason said:
Somehow I don't think it will be as dramatic as when Kennedy did it.
The Librarian
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No!Tamanon said:
Femmeworth
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That would be an awesome topic derail pic. :lolGhaleonEB said:
(From TPM)
Bravo, McCain. Bra. Vo.
Stoney Mason
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Deku said:
Yeah but they still get hot and bothered because he has celebrity status.
frankthurk
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Tamanon said:
Heard this as well. Anyone have an update? He going or not?
Tommie Hu$tle
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BenjaminBirdie said:
Negative, I absolutely agree that that issue is about McCain's judgement. I also think that the Democrats need to hammer that point, they secondly need to speak about how traveled she is, I mean she is only been out of the country once.
The bigger story is that it generates noise that McCain doesn't need. I mean you have to look at the fact that McCain only met her once before offering the job. However, I think that McCain is more focused on getting cred with the base. Weather you agree or not I think that is the direction McCain is going.
gkrykewy said:
I believe that McCain staff believes they can make a play for Clinton's disaffected supporters. I don't agree but, I think that he is where he is going.
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