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ninj4junpei said:
Let's just keep him away from the marketing team, and Obama away from the green screen.
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PoliGAF Thread of THE END and FIST POUNDS (NYT: Hillary drop out/endorse Saturday)
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Let's just keep him away from the marketing team, and Obama away from the green screen.
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Excellent...Tamanon said:Ah Ed Rendell:
"You dont bargain with the Presidential nominee. Even if youre Hillary Clinton and you have 18 million votes, you dont bargain."
Figured he'd be one of the first to come around. Plus he even shot down Clinton's VP possibility indirectly.
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The Lamonster
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You suck.ninj4junpei said:
grandjedi6
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RubxQub said:
For a while now Obama has been polling better than Hillary in California and New Jersey
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Revengeance said:
No idea, I guess more information will be available next week once all the details are hashed out.
If she keeps it up or doesn't get her way (VP), she might take Obama's chances this year along with her.camineet said:
Also I think the guy from BET lobbying for Clinton as VP all but confirms MSNBC saying late last night that she really doesn't want it was false. She does, and she'll stop at nothing to get it, that's why she's lobbying congress. Fuckin' hell.
+1 Ed Rendell, I was hoping he'd come to his senses. He's so right, too.Tamanon said:Ah Ed Rendell:
"You dont bargain with the Presidential nominee. Even if youre Hillary Clinton and you have 18 million votes, you dont bargain."
Figured he'd be one of the first to come around. Plus he even shot down Clinton's VP possibility indirectly.
maximum360
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24961184/?GT1=43001
I don't like it will be framed by the media. It makes McCain seem ahead of the game and setting the agenda with Obama just following along. He's got to take McCain's arguments for things like this, even though legitimate, and strongly set his own agenda and push McCain to go along. I know he was distracted before due to the primaries but I hope this is the last time they go along with this nonsense.
I don't like it will be framed by the media. It makes McCain seem ahead of the game and setting the agenda with Obama just following along. He's got to take McCain's arguments for things like this, even though legitimate, and strongly set his own agenda and push McCain to go along. I know he was distracted before due to the primaries but I hope this is the last time they go along with this nonsense.
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The Lamonster
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:lol :lol :lol
I like this one.
And what's wrong with Air America? Isn't that the station that Maddow is on? Or are you ... a republican?
Yes, because Rendell is smart.
Some of Hillary's other supporters may end up being just that until the bitter end, though, rather than being competitive.
Rendell as VP would make sense. He's been here in PA for a while; this is the last term that he's able to govern, so why not go for it?
Some of Hillary's other supporters may end up being just that until the bitter end, though, rather than being competitive.
Rendell as VP would make sense. He's been here in PA for a while; this is the last term that he's able to govern, so why not go for it?
I can't stand Hillary, I wanted the primaries to be over with simply so we can forget about her and so I wouldn't have to see her face on tv anymore. It would be terrible if she was picked as VP because she doesn't deserve it and, because of all the shit she's pulled and said the last few months, she's caused far more damage to the party than any other democrat presidential nominee hopeful.
How do you know? You even put a question mark after Webb :lolRubxQub said:
I have no doubts about Obama being able to defend his domestic positions. He may need someone with foreign policy muscle to help shut up the GOPers who bitch and moan about his lack of experience. Clark would be ideal.
Agreed. Like I said before, if Obama loses, much of that loss will be attributed to Clinton who was so aggressive that it didn't even need to go to the convention.GSG Flash said:
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Maybe this has come up in one of the thousands and thousands of messages I didn't read, but... plenty here seem to watch the MSNBC coverage. Remember how the night of North Carolina and Indiana the big discussion was whether Clinton would drop out the night of Oregon/Kentucky or sooner? The sole holdout was Maddow, whose argument was basically "Clinton didn't quit when her situation was impossible before, why would she now?"
Considering how things have gone over the last few weeks, did she ever bring some crow for her fellow commentators to snack on?
Considering how things have gone over the last few weeks, did she ever bring some crow for her fellow commentators to snack on?
The Lamonster said:
:lol :lol :lol
I like this one.
And what's wrong with Air America? Isn't that the station that Maddow is on? Or are you ... a republican?
Because they've fired Sam Seder twice in last 18 months and he's their best host. Lionel in the mornings is annoying. Thom Hartman is good, but talks about the same crap every day. Randi Rhodes is/was the liberal Laura Ingrahm, and they should've given Seder the slot. Maddow is on too late for me to care.
That's basically it.
Deus Ex Machina
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Weeeks!!!kkaabboomm said:
This thing needs to be over now.
The Librarian
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Why can't she just give it up?
Primordial
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How about with a turban instead of a Hat ?Evander said:
DO NOT WANT
grandjedi6
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JoshuaJSlone said:
The Clintons have hated the media with a passion for a while now so it's kinda of hard to tell
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maximum360 said:
I disagree completely. In terms of campaigning, I think they've been on the same ground for a while, in terms of PACs, in terms of going negative, and in terms of the structure of the their discussions.
The only weakness would have been cowering from this format.
Obama brought his own conditions to the table, wisely. There's no negatives here.
RubxQub said:
I'm just dissappointed Gore didn't run, honestly.
But here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark
THAT man should be the VP. Read up, and you will see why.
Am I the only one loving how Rendell has thrown Hillary under the bus and is sticking to the Obama talking points now and is rambling about how Bill is uncontrollable which makes hillary a bad pick? :lol
Also guys you dont need to wait up for Maddow's show. It is put online in a mp3 download form every day after her show is over:
http://green960.com/podcast/maddow.xml
Also guys you dont need to wait up for Maddow's show. It is put online in a mp3 download form every day after her show is over:
http://green960.com/podcast/maddow.xml
Obama should really take up McCain's offer on the townhall format. The media is convinced that this is McCain's forte and are already setting expectations sky high. "Well, Obama didn't do so well in the debates and McCain thrives on the small forums!" "Obama likes the larger venues as opposed to the one on ones..." With that narrative already in place and the fact that all the issues likely to be discussed at these townhalls are issues voters overwhelmingly support Democrats on, this could turn out be a slaughter of epic scale.
Deus Ex Machina
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Obama has chosen three people to help lead search for VP.
One is Caroline Kennedy (per MSNBC via AP)
One is Caroline Kennedy (per MSNBC via AP)
Primordial
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Evander said:
fine. I found this picture.
Cheebs said:
He was in line to be her VP, along with Evan Bayh, and Indiana fucked Bayh out of it. So I'll bet he's genuinely pissed now that they've lost and he's blaming Bubba.
I don't want her as VP, and that's purely a visceral reaction. But logically, will she give up all her private info to the Obama campaign and be properly vetted about what Bubba's been up to the last eight years? Will she disclose her income? What about the upcoming trial that she could get called to testify in? Paul somebody? What about the rumored 1000-page dossiers the Pubbies were ready to use? How can Obama keep the high ground on the war with her on the ticket? What about the already running commercials using Hill's 'all he has is a speech' slam? The list goes on....
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Maybe Obama already knows his VP choice and this is just a cover to hint to Clinton that it's not happening.Cheebs said:
Love To Love You Baby
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Other than the fact he wouldn't really be able to run as a Presidential candidate after Obama's terms are up, I don't see why Ted Strickland would be a bad VP choice.
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Love To Love You Baby said:
BTW some lady had a kinda odd view on sexism in the campaign on MSNBC earlier. She said that it was sexist to call Clinton "Hillary" but refer to Obama as "Obama". She said it was subtle sexism.....which really seems odd, especially when you combine it with her actual branding being Hillary and not Clinton.
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