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PoliGAF Thread of THE END and FIST POUNDS (NYT: Hillary drop out/endorse Saturday)

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Tamanon

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Now that was a good answer. "My concern is not about the candidates, it's about the voters' will being expressed"

Ickes just can't catch a break.
 
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scorcho

testicles on a cold fall morning
CowboyAstronaut said:
Yea call me bizarre cheebs or whatever the fuck you wanna say, but apparently I'm the only person that noticed the bias bullshit that went on during the questioning phase of wexler. Such a disrespectful thing didn't happen for anyone else.

Why exactly didn't they decide to grill Ausman on the 100% seating? Go ahead tell me why they didn't?

They waited for a representative from the Obama campaign and went at him. You can't tell me that isn't what happened.
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you're the only one? you quoted my direct statement on that issue. Wexler was harassed by overly partisan Clinton supporters on the committee, that's obvious. there's no conspiracy, just that Obama's supporters in the RBC chose not to go after Clinton's represenative.

and you're Bizarro Cheebs in your fanatical doom-and-gloom and rather myopic outlook.
 
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Revengeance

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kaching said:
There's obviously not a perfect solution here. How would you resolve the allocation?
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0 Delegates to anyone, or 1/2, with some imperfect ratio applied. Any ratio is going to be speculative, which makes me uneasy. For a compromise, it might be ok, but I'm not sure the Clinton camp will agree to such a compromise.
 
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theviolenthero

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So, um, Clinton is expected to get a net gain of between 25-30 delegates once this is all over?
Seen i few websites throw out those number's.

Doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
 
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CowboyAstronaut

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scorcho said:
you're the only one? you quoted my direct statement on that issue. Wexler was harassed by overly partisan Clinton supporters on the committee, that's obvious. there's no conspiracy, just that Obama's supporters in the RBC chose not to go after Clinton's represenative.

and you're Bizarro Cheebs in your fanatical doom-and-gloom and rather myopic outlook.
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They are trying to argue that Hilary Clinton voters voted uncommitted? :lol
 
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scorcho

testicles on a cold fall morning
Shawnwhann said:
It's like Ickes isn't even obscuring the fact that he is shilling for Clinton...
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he doesn't need to obscure anything. there's full transparency here and everyone knows one another's motives.
 
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pxleyes

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Bet you guys will like this:

Support Wexler’s opponent in November. Wexler is not acting in the best interest of Florida just his candidate.

hwww.graberforcongress.com/
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Take a WILD guess where that is from.
 
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pxleyes

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WTF. That argument makes NO sense. You proposed a hypothetical presidential ballot that can not happen.

Why would you not vote at all if you had an option that is against the person you don't support. AKA uncommitted = obama.
 
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lexdysia

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Wexler on MSNBC:

Says the popular vote won't count and superdelegates only get half-votes just like the pledged delegates.
 
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TDG

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Hey, I like this guy. He makes sense.

Some didn't vote because it wasn't going to count, absentee ballots are for Obama, and a big name like Clinton vs. Uncomitted isn't a fair election.
 
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Revengeance

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The more I think about it, the more I think that 0 delegates should be granted to MI. Any election where there are candidates not on the ballot is no election at all.

As for party unity: whatever, they'll get over it by November.
 
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kaching

"GAF's biggest wanker"
Revengeance said:
0 Delegates to anyone
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For the committee to decide, but did you really expect anyone to put such a proposition in front of them, given that the only reason this is being deliberated is specifically because that original ruling is what is being disputed?
 
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Shawnwhann

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scorcho said:
he doesn't need to obscure anything. there's full transparency here and everyone knows one another's motives.
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Considering that there are a ton of eyes on this meeting, I was expecting more even handedness than what I've seen thus far.

BTW, it's in a meeting like this where you get to see where Hillary's advantage is with the establishment folks.
 
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EMBee99

all that he wants is another baby
scorcho said:
you're the only one? you quoted my direct statement on that issue. Wexler was harassed by overly partisan Clinton supporters on the committee, that's obvious. there's no conspiracy, just that Obama's supporters in the RBC chose not to go after Clinton's represenative.
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I'm glad Obama's supporters seem to be following in his footsteps by not mudslinging or getting all butthurt. They're kind of acting like...oh, I don't know....winners?
 
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Revengeance

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kaching said:
For the committee to decide, but did you really expect anyone to put such a proposition in front of them, given that the only reason this is being deliberated is specifically because that original ruling is what is being disputed?
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No, but that's how I would vote :D

The only way I would vote otherwise would be if there was a proposal supported by both the Obama and Clinton camps.

edit: I wouldn't support any proposal that seats 100% of the delegation. The DNC needs some power behind it's actions if it ever wants to control the primary election schedule.
 
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KRS7

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pxleyes said:
Bet you guys will like this:



Take a WILD guess where that is from.
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LOL. Good luck with that. Wexler is ridiculously popular in his district. He ran unopposed in the 1998, 2004, and the 2006 elections. And got over 70% in 2000 and 2002. Republicans just waste money running against him. That is how he got away with the coke and prostitutes comment on the Colbert show.
 
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deadbeef

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Michigan is a much more interesting problem than the one in Florida.

Did they decide anything on Florida? Why did they move on to Michigan already?
 
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scorcho

testicles on a cold fall morning
pxleyes said:
Probably Clinton simply because he claims the Obama rep will support full delegates (which I doubt).
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[smacks my head] no no no no no.

Dice Man said:
Michigan is a much more interesting problem than the one in Florida.

Did they decide anything on Florida? Why did they move on to Michigan already?
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discussions take place later in the afternoon.
 
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pxleyes

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Dice Man said:
Michigan is a much more interesting problem than the one in Florida.

Did they decide anything on Florida? Why did they move on to Michigan already?
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They talk for hours on end, then decide on both later today.

scorcho said:
[smacks my head] no no no no no.
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Well how can I argue with that.
 
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Tamanon

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Dice Man said:
Michigan is a much more interesting problem than the one in Florida.

Did they decide anything on Florida? Why did they move on to Michigan already?
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Deliberations are after their lunch. First they're hearing all the testimonials. Florida will be decided this afternoon, I suspect Michigan later tonight.
 
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Revengeance

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Tamanon said:
Deliberations are after their lunch. First they're hearing all the testimonials. Florida will be decided this afternoon, I suspect Michigan later tonight.
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Do we get to watch the deliberations? I hope so (but think not), cause that will be the exciting part. Ickes vs. Brazile
 
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scorcho

testicles on a cold fall morning
regardless of Levin's personal support, he's directly arguing a UNITED Michigan proposal, which still grants Obama the complete uncommitted vote.
 
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DrForester

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Don't really understand why Michigan is trying this wacky math thing. Since, in the end it wont matter, they should have just given Clinton the percentage she won, and Obama the percentage of uncommitted. It would only give Clinton what? 30 delegates?
 
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pxleyes

Banned
Tamanon said:
Still has to be half votes, you still have to have SOME punishment.
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This.

And DrForester, they aren't doing anything wacky beyond doing the logical thing and taking the two camps options and drawing a line smack dab in the middle.
 
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Deus Ex Machina

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