That's exactly what I am pointing out though. I live in Florida. We are not allocating funds correctly because of your exact argument. Marrying performance with funding is so fucking backwards.3rdman said:I suppose that could be with where you are...Here in Florida, our Bush decided it was a good idea to marry school performance with funding. He was also "kind" enough to reallocate funds raised from a per-capita basis to be evenly distributed across all counties. As a result, high volume-urban schools are getting less money per student than kids that go to school in a rural county. When schools with too many students and not enough money fails the FCAT, they get less money to solve their problems!
This is, of course, a way of circumventing public schools for private ones...Vouchers also play a role. I have no idea what is up with Houston though but if its anything like what we have here, it's time to make some tough choices...at least he's not sugar-coating the reality.
NASA funding is not something I'd necessarily want to cut as they contribute endlessly to our future.
Yeah, this pisses me off as well. I hope he ends up taking money from something like the Iraq war instead. Why NASA?kaching said:Whoa, Obama's plan to suspend NASA funding for the Constellation program is the first significant problem I have with his policies. Surely that money can come from somewhere else, NASA's drain on the budget is insignificant compared to so much else in there.
I missed that he proposed this. :/
Exactly. We only need to cut the defense spending by half a percent to make up that kind money.KRS7 said:What the fuck Obama? Leave NASA alone. Cutting the Constellation program while the shuttle are going into retirement would leave us without a manned space program for several years. I agree some of the bureaucracy in NASA needs to go, but the Constellation program is essential to the future of our manned program. The program's budget is less than 2.5 Billion for 2009. That is less than 0.1% of the US budget. It would be an embarrassment if we needed to ask the Russians to take us to the space station. I hope Congress is smart enough to keep the program, but I have no faith in congress.
Obama has also said he won't refrain from making signing statements, just be more reserved in their use. Another black mark, but really, one can't expect perfection.kaching said:Whoa, Obama's plan to suspend NASA funding for the Constellation program is the first significant problem I have with his policies. Surely that money can come from somewhere else, NASA's drain on the budget is insignificant compared to so much else in there.
I missed that he proposed this. :/
:lol :lol :lol"In my nearly 36 years of public service I've known of a few like you," Dole writes, recounting his years representing Kansas in the House and Senate. "No doubt you will 'clean up' as the liberal anti-Bush press will promote your belated concerns with wild enthusiasm. When the money starts rolling in you should donate it to a worthy cause, something like, 'Biting The Hand That Fed Me.' Another thought is to weasel your way back into the White House if a Democrat is elected. That would provide a good set up for a second book deal in a few years"
He signs the email simply: "BOB DOLE"
Bob Dole signing anything = :lolThe Lamonster said:Bob Dole: McClellan is a 'miserable creature'
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0508/Bob_Dole_unloads_on_McClellan.html
:lol :lol :lol
I really like Clark's example last night on the Daily Show. They probably have an emergency box in the white house that say "break when someone leaves" and contains all the necessary talking points.Hitokage said:The tendency to automatically attack and discredit former members of a group who speak against it is very much like a destructive cult.
i secretly hope, though don't really expect the forthcoming Democratic (SUPERMAJORITY) legislature to become more institutional and restore a measure of checks and balance in our government.Hitokage said:Obama has also said he won't refrain from making signing statements, just be more reserved in their use. Another black mark, but really, one can't expect perfection.
Rindain said:Yeah, this pisses me off as well. I hope he ends up taking money from something like the Iraq war instead. Why NASA?
No, of course not. Still, going after NASA is one of those things that feels like pandering to everyone's assumptions about where there's waste, not fitting of a candidate who just refused to pander on the Gas tax issue for similar reasons.Hitokage said:Obama has also said he won't refrain from making signing statements, just be more reserved in their use. Another black mark, but really, one can't expect perfection.
Tamanon said:BTW, baseball dorks will be happy at who Pablano from 538 is.
Nate Silver from Baseball Prospectus
Basically an acolyte of Sabermetrics.
to cut funding from Iraq is to compel the administration to withdraw the troops. no one expects that funding cuts will result in troops being undersupplied.Apharmd said:What I'm afraid of from taking money from the Iraq war is that it'd screw over our men and women over there. Yeah, I want us to pull out and going there was fucktarded in the first place, but I don't want them to arrive home in bodybags just because they're undersupplied gear-wise.
I honestly agree that we need to cut the spending on our defense budget, though. It's just monstrous how much we spend with these companies. :|
Your argument implies rational thought from a certain group, so I must reject it.scorcho said:to cut funding from Iraq is to compel the administration to withdraw the troops. no one expects that funding cuts will result in troops being undersupplied.
scorcho said:to cut funding from Iraq is to compel the administration to withdraw the troops. no one expects that funding cuts will result in troops being undersupplied.
:lol context? Is she drowning herself in a bottle now?Lost Fragment said:
David Gregory looks like an ape with bleached skin and a wig.mckmas8808 said:David Gregory is a pure asshole right now! He is so pissed off right now with this book for Scott. Damn dude suck it up. You didn't question the Bush admin enough in 03.
pxleyes said::lol context? Is she drowning herself in a bottle now?
It's almost a shame she won't be President -- we're losing the opportunity for another four years of an incredibly un-photogenic person.Lost Fragment said:hillary drunk image
yes, collectively GAF has but one mind.Cheebs said:So is Obama's plan to cut funding to NASA and funnel it into programs for preschool the first Obama plan that GAF disagrees with?
WE ARE A HIVEMIND!scorcho said:yes, collectively GAF has but one mind.
Cheebs said:So is Obama's plan to cut funding to NASA and funnel it into programs for preschool the first Obama plan that GAF disagrees with?
NASA received less than 1 percent of the federal budget and has been near this level since the end of the Apollo program in 1972.
In August 2003 Gallup asked 1,003 adults their thoughts about government spending on NASA. The results are shown in Figure 9.4. About 48 percent said that NASA's budget should remain at its current level, while 23 percent thought it should be increased. Another 21 percent thought NASA's budget should be decreased, and 5 percent wanted to end NASA completely. Support for increasing NASA's funding was strongest among men, younger people, and those with advanced degrees.
It seems that way!scorcho said:yes, collectively GAF has but one mind.
why is she always drinking alcohol?Lost Fragment said:
Cheebs said:So is Obama's plan to cut funding to NASA and funnel it into programs for preschool the first Obama plan that GAF disagrees with?
kaching said:No, of course not. Still, going after NASA is one of those things that feels like pandering to everyone's assumptions about where there's waste, not fitting of a candidate who just refused to pander on the Gas tax issue for similar reasons.
I think he also happens to like KotCS, putting it above ToD.Cheebs said:So is Obama's plan to cut funding to NASA and funnel it into programs for preschool the first Obama plan that GAF disagrees with?
to numb the painDeus Ex Machina said:why is she always drinking alcohol?
Given NASA's budget and their true impact on our lives I find your statement grossly misinformed.PhoenixDark said:Personally I don't care about NASA. It's not a priority to me when there are so many far more important things on earth to work on. Like the economy. Or Iraq. Or health care. Or education. Or Iran/diplomacy.
A man after my own heart.kaching said:I think he also happens to like KotCS, putting it above ToD.
:OTamanon said:BTW, baseball dorks will be happy at who Pablano from 538 is.
Nate Silver from Baseball Prospectus
Basically an acolyte of Sabermetrics.
PhoenixDark said:Personally I don't care about NASA. It's not a priority to me when there are so many far more important things on earth to work on. Like the economy. Or Iraq. Or health care. Or education. Or Iran/diplomacy.
pxleyes said:WE ARE A HIVEMIND!
KRS7 said:Health care has been improved by NASA technology. Telemedicine and many of the sensors and vital sign monitoring equipment comes directly from NASA research in the 50s and 60s.
NASA aeronautics research has promoted fuel efficient high bypass engines and lower drag super critical air-foils. Saving fuel helps our economy. Boeing is one of the largest exporters in the US and many of their technical developments have come from research work from NASA. Oh and I almost forgot, fuel cells. One of many technologies that will help us break out addiction form fossil fuels. Solar cell research was pioneered by them too. One thing you will notice about manned NASA programs is they promote research into sustainability and recycling and they never use fossil fuels in space.
Money spent on NASA is not wasted in space and usually has real world applications and benefits.
Pretty much. Its the headline story on drudgepxleyes said::lol context? Is she drowning herself in a bottle now?
NASA needs to spend their money here on Earth.lopaz said:Wouldn't you get more benefits if you funded healthcare and energy research directly, instead of using it to go to the moon?
Will it? The most eye-catching stuff for the American public seems to be coming from the unmanned projects at the moment, so it seems like a pretty well calculated program to put on hold, from that perspective. I just don't understand why he just doesn't find the money elsewhere.Stinkles said:Actually, it will statistically be unpopular.