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[Angelus Errare]

I for one am shocked the savior of the US turns out to be just as horrible as any other politician.

SHOCKED I tell you.

 

[Arkeband]

It has several literal quotes. Are you serious?

Not in any way substantiating entire paragraphs of angry character assassination.

 

[FunkyMunkey]

Id be salty too if I lost a game that was rigged against me from the start, especially if I still came close despite it.

Idk why anyone was expecting him to bow out peacefully after all the bullshit the party and media has put him through.

 

[Maengun1]

I was planning on voting for Bernie a year ago, but his campaign/most rabid supporters turned me off almost immediately when the primary began (starting with the data breach meltdown in what, December?) and it only got worse from there. Nothing in here is a surprise to me in the slightest.

 

[Steel]

Really disappointed and sad I used to like him so much. He really is just another bitter politician.

It really is safer to assume from the get-go that any person running for public office will try to appear several times more honest and trustworthy than they actually are and move on from there. Getting behind a person and not their qualifications, policy positions, and plans to get those policies enacted is, and has always has been, nonsense.

 

[Bowdz]

Id be salty too if I lost a game that was rigged against me from the start, especially if I still came close despite it.

Idk why anyone was expecting him to bow out peacefully after all the bullshit the party and media has put him through.

As one of the CNN talking head put it, beyond having 3+ million more votes, more states won, and more pledged delegates, Clinton has won 14 of the 19 most populous states by fairly large margins and Cali looks like it is trending that direction.

Forget superdelegates entirely. She has won by every conceivable metric, fair and square.

 

[kirblar]

I for one am shocked the savior of the US turns out to be just as horrible as any other politician.

SHOCKED I tell you.

Just as horrible?

I'd argue he's worse- he's actively obstructing his own liberal policy goals.

 

[metalslimer]

Id be salty too if I lost a game that was rigged against me from the start, especially if I still came close despite it.

Idk why anyone was expecting him to bow out peacefully after all the bullshit the party and media has put him through.

For one thing he didn't come close at all.....

 

[Doctoglethorpe]

Do tell how it was rigged?

Um, treating him like a nobody and a joke the entire way? Ignoring anything positive for him while constantly going out of the way to make Hillary look more favorable. Giving him shit while letting Hillary ride on a cloud to the general. And he still came close, which leaves no doubt in my mind if it was a fair race he would have won. Not that well ever know.

Very similar situation with Trump at least on the establishments end. Different canidates with different results of course.

 

[And_Gignac]

Not in any way substantiating entire paragraphs of angry character assassination.

But an unnamed staffer said Bernie is just jealous and angry like a parody of a mean girls character. It must be totally true!

 

[Roland_Gunner]

Not the plentiful in adjectives commentary that essentially pictures Bernie as a megalomaniac.

“I don’t know who advised him that this was the right route to take, but we are now actively destroying what Bernie worked so hard to build over the last year just to pick up two fucking delegates in a state he lost,”

A senior campaign official directly says that their late game tactics are undermining everything they built. What else do you want? Weaver denouncing Sanders on video while holding up photo id and a newspaper to prove the date?

 

[sturgboski]

It really is safer to assume from the get-go that any person running for public office will try to appear several times more honest and trustworthy than they actually are and move on from there. Getting behind a person and not their qualifications, policy positions, and plans to get those policies enacted is, and has always has been, nonsense.

Yeah. Look at Kasich for another great example.

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

Not even going to bother explaining why believing every single word of this article is like believing your super market line tabloids.

Then don't post. Honestly.

 

[The Technomancer]

Um, treating him like a nobody and a joke the entire way? Ignoring anything positive for him while constantly going out of the way to make Hillary look more favorable. Giving him shit while letting Hillary ride on a cloud to the general. And he still came close, which leaves no doubt in my mind if it was a fair race he would have won. Not that well ever know.

Very similar situation with Trump at least on the establishments end. Different canidates with different results of course.

What mirror universe did you step in from? Do they all wear goatees there? The media treated him with absolute kid gloves on a dozen issues

 

[Aaronrules380]

Um, treating him like a nobody and a joke the entire way? Ignoring anything positive for him while constantly going out of the way to make Hillary look more favorable. Giving him shit while letting Hillary ride on a cloud to the general. And he still came close, which leaves no doubt in my mind if it was a fair race he would have won. Not that well ever know.

Very similar situation with Trump at least on the establishments end. Different canidates with different results of course.

Hilary has gotten more negative press and less positive press than Sanders though (or any primary candidate for that matter)

 

[element]

Heard a good one today with Clinton winning. What would Summer of 2015 Bernie say to Bernie of today? Originally he was running to help bring attention to causes he found important, which he has done, but now it seems like he wants to burn the house down with everyone in it.

 

[Meowster]

And I was just feeling bad for the guy tonight..

 

[kirblar]

Um, treating him like a nobody and a joke the entire way? Ignoring anything positive for him while constantly going out of the way to make Hillary look more favorable. Giving him shit while letting Hillary ride on a cloud to the general. And he still came close, which leaves no doubt in my mind if it was a fair race he would have won. Not that well ever know.

Very similar situation with Trump at least on the establishments end. Different canidates with different results of course.

If you want to win the Democratic nomination, you can't just appeal to white people.

This is now about to be true for the Presidency as well. (and may be true already.)

But an unnamed staffer said Bernie is just jealous and angry like a parody of a mean girls character. It must be totally true!

If people have been saying it for 25+ years, there's probably fire where that smoke is coming from.

 

[Fat4all]

Um, treating him like a nobody and a joke the entire way? Ignoring anything positive for him while constantly going out of the way to make Hillary look more favorable. Giving him shit while letting Hillary ride on a cloud to the general. And he still came close, which leaves no doubt in my mind if it was a fair race he would have won. Not that well ever know.

Oh, so you have nothing.

 

[Steel]

Um, treating him like a nobody and a joke the entire way? Ignoring anything positive for him while constantly going out of the way to make Hillary look more favorable. Giving him shit while letting Hillary ride on a cloud to the general. And he still came close, which leaves no doubt in my mind if it was a fair race he would have won. Not that well ever know.

Very similar situation with Trump at least on the establishments end. Different canidates with different results of course.

I think we were watching different races. The media was 95% covering Trump, 3% the other pub candidates, and 2% Hillary/Sanders. They were chasing ratings for most of the race and Trump was it. If you wanna blame anyone for Sander's lack of coverage for most of the race, it'd be Trump.

 

[SolicitorPirate]

But an unnamed staffer said Bernie is just jealous and angry like a parody of a mean girls character. It must be totally true!

It's not just random quotes however. It's quotes that make total sense in the context of the shit stain that has been his primary campaign

 

[pgtl_10]

There is really nothing of substance in what was posted. I feel the article is throwing up a lot of smoke but no fire.

 

[TemplaerDude]

He seems like a nice guy with good ideas, it's pretty funny to watch your country just bury him now. Shame, you guys will never learn.

 

[GutsOfThor]

Id be salty too if I lost a game that was rigged against me from the start, especially if I still came close despite it.

Idk why anyone was expecting him to bow out peacefully after all the bullshit the party and media has put him through.

You can't win the game if you never open the fucking rule book.

 

[benicillin]

Ew Politico. On the record quotes are good, but I still get the feeling this article is slanted as fuck all. Hope you prove me right tonight Sanders.

 

[darkside31337]

Expected folks in his campaign to turn against him but didn't expect it this soon. Folks who want a future in the party don't want to be associated with a guy who lost and was never actually a member of the party nor has a future in it.

Still kind of amazing that both Obama and Hillary are trying to be cordial about the process while its his own people inside his campaign who are throwing him off the cliff.

 

[SegaShack]

Um, treating him like a nobody and a joke the entire way? Ignoring anything positive for him while constantly going out of the way to make Hillary look more favorable. Giving him shit while letting Hillary ride on a cloud to the general. And he still came close, which leaves no doubt in my mind if it was a fair race he would have won. Not that well ever know.

Very similar situation with Trump at least on the establishments end. Different canidates with different results of course.

Bernie got plenty of attention. If you think he is ignored or shunned, look at the other parties that literally never get mentioned at all.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

But an unnamed staffer said Bernie is just jealous and angry like a parody of a mean girls character. It must be totally true!

“If they hadn’t started at it by really going hard at him on guns, raising a series of issues against him, that really was what led to him being much, much more aggressive than he otherwise would have been,” said Tad Devine, the consultant who helped engineer Sanders’ plans for a protest candidacy into a real campaign (and convinced him to run as a Democrat).

and these quotes is a wink wink nudge that he is backing up the other stuff

“They would be very smart to understand that the best way to approach Bernie is not to try to push him around,” Devine said. “It’s much better if they try to cooperate with him and find common ground. They should be mindful of the fact that the people he’s brought into this process are new to it and they will be very suspicious of any effort to push him around.”

“Bernie’s been at the helm of this campaign from the beginning,” said Weaver, “and the overall message of this campaign and the direction of the campaign and the strategy, has been driven by Bernie.”

 

[And_Gignac]

“I don’t know who advised him that this was the right route to take, but we are now actively destroying what Bernie worked so hard to build over the last year just to pick up two fucking delegates in a state he lost,”

A senior campaign official directly says that their late game tactics are undermining everything they built. What else do you want? Weaver denouncing Sanders on video while holding up photo id and a newspaper to prove the date?

That's regarding the Nevada drama, which yes was a total disaster. The other parts with unaccounted "aides" and staffers read like pure National Enquirer gossip.

 

[User1608]

It really is safer to assume from the get-go that any person running for public office will try to appear several times more honest and trustworthy than they actually are and move on from there. Getting behind a person and not their qualifications, policy positions, and plans to get those policies enacted is, and has always has been, nonsense.

This very true.

 

[Perfect Blue]

You know that's not happening.

Of course he knows. This is just a part of that forum character's persona.

 

[Doctoglethorpe]

As one of the CNN talking head put it, beyond having 3+ million more votes, more states won, and more pledged delegates, Clinton has won 14 of the 19 most populous states by fairly large margins and Cali looks like it is trending that direction.

Forget superdelegates entirely. She has won by every conceivable metric, fair and square.

Im not debating she won. But only the blind can claim it a fair victory.

And to whoever it applies to: Go ahead and post gifs to imply my foolishness or bitterness with no subtance to back it. Enjoy your president that doesnt care about you.

 

[Zornack]

That's regarding the Nevada drama, which yes was a total disaster. The other parts with unaccounted "aides" and staffers read like pure National Enquirer gossip.

Why don't you point out what you take issue with in the article?

 

[pgtl_10]

What mirror universe did you step in from? Do they all wear goatees there? The media treated him with absolute kid gloves on a dozen issues

I disagree. The media never took him seriously until he started winning a little. I felt they were pretty rough on positionsome they would normally support.

At worst he was Clinton in 2008. Not willing to give up and got more aggressive when he needed to.

 

[The Technomancer]

Im not debating she won. But only the blind can claim it a fair victory.

And to whoever it applies to: Go ahead and post gifs to imply my foolishness or bitterness with no subtance to back it. Enjoy your president that doesnt care about you.

If you think that Bernie was "attacked" then you are politically naive. There's no other way to describe it.

 

[Wallach]

He's always been this guy.

Frank literally told us he was this guy, well before the primary started. Guy was on point.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Im not debating she won. But only the blind can claim it a fair victory.

And to whoever it applies to: Go ahead and post gifs to imply my foolishness or bitterness with no subtance to back it. Enjoy your president that doesnt care about you.

How has it been unfair?

 

[Dany]

Im not debating she won. But only the blind can claim it a fair victory.

And to whoever it applies to: Go ahead and post gifs to imply my foolishness or bitterness with no subtance to back it. Enjoy your president that doesnt care about you.

How is this unfair?

 

[DOWN]

'You're with me or you're corrupt and my youth following will believe it.'

 

[mAcOdIn]

I was planning on voting for Bernie a year ago, but his campaign/most rabid supporters turned me off almost immediately when the primary began and it only got worse from there. Nothing in here is a surprise to me in the slightest.

Yeah. I donated to him. I need to see if I can get off his mailing list. Keep getting all these emails to support down ticket races of people he supports and frankly, I don't want to. I question the wisdom in supporting someone he's endorsed along with the futility of the other half of the donation going to his doomed campaign. His pick to go against DWS seems pure spite.

 

[Doctoglethorpe]

I think we were watching different races. The media was 95% covering Trump, 3% the other pub candidates, and 2% Hillary/Sanders. They were chasing ratings for most of the race and Trump was it. If you wanna blame anyone for Sander's lack of coverage for most of the race, it'd be Trump.

And all that coverage was negative, which was my point.

 

[shem935]

Um, treating him like a nobody and a joke the entire way? Ignoring anything positive for him while constantly going out of the way to make Hillary look more favorable. Giving him shit while letting Hillary ride on a cloud to the general. And he still came close, which leaves no doubt in my mind if it was a fair race he would have won. Not that well ever know.

Very similar situation with Trump at least on the establishments end. Different canidates with different results of course.

Hmm? They catered to him completely the whole way through. Added more debates at his suggestion, never negatively attacked him personally, only on policy, and never tried de-legitimize him as a candidate even though he had only been a Democrat for 6 months up to that point. Not sure how Hillary rode on a cloud to the general. She participated in all the same debates, same primaries, the same caucuses. She won on issues like it or not, that's what people voted in overwhelming majority for, unless you want to contend that a 3million+ lead in the popular vote is somehow rigged?

And all that coverage was negative, which was my point.

Hardly. The media propped him up well past the time he had been eliminated to keep the horse race narrative going. If you are referring to the NYDN interview as the Establishment rigging it against him, no, that's Bernie being caught with his pants around his ankles and not knowing how to implement policy. Sorry, kind of a thing you need to know how to do.

 

[SolicitorPirate]

Heard a good one today with Clinton winning. What would Summer of 2015 Bernie say to Bernie of today? Originally he was running to help bring attention to causes he found important, which he has done, but now it seems like he wants to burn the house down with everyone in it.

I'd imagine Past Bernie would just give a thumbs up to Present Bernie.

I first became aware of Sanders through an interview on Bill Maher's show around 2007-2008. Even back then he seemed a bit of an uncompromising blowhard who viewed the world through a 'with me or against me' lens.

At the time I attributed that to anger and frustration over the Bush presidency, which to be fair, was a super common feeling amongst progressives at the time. Turned out that was just Bernie's default mode.

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

Assuming the article is basically accurate (the market was ripe for a tell-all piece, and there is certainly a niche for a narrative that builds up Hillary by trashing Bernie, so I maintain a base level of skepticism about the extent of the claims made), I don't think Bernie drinking his own Kool-Aid makes him a horrible person, but it does prove pretty definitively that the man was NOT presidential material. I appreciate that I think he's basically right on what are the main issues gnawing away at America, but he was politically clueless and had no good policies for actually dealing with the problems he identified, only vague platitudes. Sad!

 

[Fat4all]

"Enjoy your president that doesnt care about you."

wat is this nonsense

 

[oneils]

The way he is described, here, reminds me of John McCain. they seem so thin skinned. Like why did they become politicians?

 

[norm9]

And all that coverage was negative, which was my point.

From the coverage, the news gave him more credit than he deserved.

 

[kirblar]

And all that coverage was negative, which was my point.

Uh, no. Until the last two months when his campaign was melting down before everyone's eyes, he was getting kid-gloved by EVERYONE.

Dems didn't want to have to attack him from the right and blow him up for the socialist/communist stuff.

The GOP didn't want to attack him because they wanted him to win.

And the media wanted him in so they'd have a horse race narrative.

 

[FunkyMunkey]

Im not debating she won. But only the blind can claim it a fair victory.

And to whoever it applies to: Go ahead and post gifs to imply my foolishness or bitterness with no subtance to back it. Enjoy your president that doesnt care about you.

i'll enjoy having a president that isn't a bitter vengeful asshole with political knowledge rivaling that of a poli sci undergrad

 

[Steel]

And all that coverage was negative, which was my point.

No it wasn't. When they covered sanders they were talking him up as this up and comer that made the primary into a horse race(once again, for ratings). On the other hand, if you think the media treat Hillary with kid-gloves you must not have been watching any news at the height of the Emails and Benghazi nonsense.