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Poll: What is your opinion on Druckmann and the job he has done leading Naughty Dog?

What is your opinion on Neil Druckmann and the job he has done leading ND?

  • Positive opinion of Druckmann

    Votes: 138 26.5%
  • Negative opinion of Druckmann

    Votes: 297 57.1%
  • Neutral (indifferent) - explain below

    Votes: 85 16.3%

  • Total voters
    520
  • This poll will close: .

nial

Member
Of course it's the case, I proven to you that they got rid of all their male characters and are tokenizing
No, you literally haven't.
Bullshit, just an excuse to tokenize more the protagonist because he was still male and heterosexual.
It's an Asian woman in an anthology series set in Japan. Would have you have an issue if they used a different male character instead?
They got rid of another protagonist that was white, male and heterosexual.
It had nothing to do with that, why are you playing stupid?
As I remember it's the first time Sony sels a AAA gaming IP. It wasn't a huge seller so I highly doubt a lot of money would be paid for it. Pretty likely Sony wanted to get rid of the IP and Kojima prefered to buy it and demand to make the sequel to continue working with them.
It's not the first time Sony sells any of its IPs as we've seen with The Tomortow Children in the past.
They most likely sold it because the IP is nothing without Kojima and he's one of the few guys with as big of a closeness with the company that could get them to sell him an IP of such scale.
Is this all speculation? Yes, but it's inherently less retarded than your "THEY WANTED TO GET RID OF IT BECAUSE MUH CIS WHITE MALES" claim.
And well, let's see if he continues being the protagonist in the game or if he gets replaced by a female during the game.
"hurr durr let's see" Fuck off.
Yes, they have the need to tokenize even furries. I agree it's dumb.
It's sad that you think like this of a female animal from the funny cartoony platformers aimed at children.
We were talking about Sony tokenizing all their protagonists because they want to get rid of white, male, heterosexual (and attractive) characters because they consider that is negative to have them and have the need of replacing them due to wokism. As also happens in many other companies not only from gaming.
Then why is Sony publishing LSA if getting rid of male cis protagonists was their alleged mission?
They don't need to be white, male or heterosexual: they have to be great iconic characters liked by their fans and custormers instead of being ugly, unlikable and uncharismatic crappy replacements of their iconic protagonists because these woke activists hate people of certain gender, skin color, or sexual preference and don't want to make appealing stuff for these groups, who happen to be by far the largest group of customers. They should be respectful with their IPs, characters, fans and customers.
Jin Sakai is uglier than Atsu, sorry. In fact, Jin was particularly praised for being ugly, I remember Toshihiro Nagoshi saying something along those lines.
In fact, go to see who was voted by the PSN players their favorite character of the year (spoiler: it wasn't an ugly androginous manly non-white lesbian Mary Sue from Concord). She's an Asian female (but femenine, likable and attractive, something that pretty likely caused issues to get it greenlighted at Sony and maybe is the reason of why Yoshida is leaving Sony).
Yes, the same Sony that went on its way to go after Shift Up and offer them production and publishing services for their already-announced Project Eve game.
Many of us are getting tired of this woke bullshit and are stopping to support these games, as seen in Concord, Forspoken or Destruction AllStars. Let's hope they stop it before it's to late because you know... go woke go broke.
Not sure what Forspoken has to do with Sony, but I don't really know if "wokeness" is what killed all those projects in the first place.
 

nial

Member
yurinka was already an annoying overly-detailed-wall-of-texts autist, but him becoming a culture war shitter is a combination coming directly out of hell.
 

yurinka

Member
It's an Asian woman in an anthology series set in Japan. Would have you have an issue if they used a different male character instead?
I don't have any issue with female characters or with their skin color, or with LGTB.

My issue is with them replacing the protagonists I like because they are male, white, heterosexual or attractive and putting bad quality replacements that I disklike.

I would be ok with other protagonist if it's a good and charismatic character I like. But the more woke censorship checklist tokens the character has, the more likely is that I will dislike him because I'm tired of the stubborn woke activism and proganda making the games I liked less appealing.

It had nothing to do with that, why are you playing stupid?
I'm not playing anything. Maybe yoy are.

It's not the first time Sony sells any of its IPs as we've seen with The Tomortow Children in the past.
I said AAA IPs, The Tomorrow Children didn't even qualify as AA.

Then why is Sony publishing LSA if getting rid of male cis protagonists was their alleged mission?
They want Chinese developed games with characters that Chinese players like because they want to grow in China.

They also know that stuff like LGTB is banned there and people isn't brainwashed there with woke stuff, which makes them laugh.

Yes, the same Sony that went on its way to go after Shift Up and offer them production and publishing services for their already-announced Project Eve game.
Well, even if still published as SIE publishing, Stellar Blade is not published by PS Studios like the rest of their Sony 2nd party games.

No PS Studios logo, doesn't appear in the PS Studios website, doesn't even appear in this tweets that recaps the most voted games by the players even if it's tied with Astro as the game that got more "trophies":


It didn't get the same than the rest, and isn't an internally developed game. But yes, I agree that Stellar Blade is an exception.

Not sure what Forspoken has to do with Sony,
It's a Sony AAA 3rd party exclusive from Square Enix, Sony must have paid a good chunk of money for it.

"wokeness" is what killed all those projects in the first place.
Well, making efforts to make their protagonists unappealing to their biggest target user demographics and instead trying to appeal a tiny subset of the type of people who buys these type of games must have helped.

yurinka was already an annoying overly-detailed-wall-of-texts autist, but him becoming a culture war shitter is a combination coming directly out of hell.
Better than being a brainwashed moron who instead of debating politely with people attacks who disagree when running out of arguments. Goodbye.
 
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HogIsland

Member
To "tokenize" is to have members of oppressed groups superficially represented for the purpose of maintaining the legitimacy of regular white heterosexual Christian male capitalist authority.

That's not what yurinka yurinka is taking issue with. He would prefer if characters like Abby and Lev were tokens and he could play as Joel for the whole game.
 

nial

Member
I don't have any issue with female characters or with their skin color, or with LGTB.

My issue is with them replacing the protagonists I like because they are male, white, heterosexual or attractive and putting bad quality replacements that I disklike.

I would be ok with other protagonist if it's a good and charismatic character I like. But the more woke censorship checklist tokens the character has, the more likely is that I will dislike him because I'm tired of the stubborn woke activism and proganda making the games I liked less appealing.
Answer the question, yuri.
I'm not playing anything. Maybe you are.
Oh sure, now you don't know that DG2 was literally never pitched to Sony.
I said AAA IPs, The Tomorrow Children didn't even qualify as AA.
You said 'AAA' just to go around and say that TMC does not count. I mean, it's not like Sony is selling its AA IPs left and right, why make that distinction?
They want Chinese developed games with characters that Chinese players like because they want to grow in China.
Then Sony is purposely throwing its alleged mission out of the window just to grow in China? Sounds more like whatever you're sperging about isn't even happening, at all.
Well, even if still published as SIE publishing, Stellar Blade is not published by PS Studios like the rest of their Sony 2nd party games.
Every Sony game is published by SIE, PS Studios is not a publisher.
No PS Studios logo
Has as much weight as Monkey King on PS4 not having the Japan Studio branding. But heck, at least with Stellar Blade it makes sense that it did begin development before Sony became involved.
doesn't appear in the PS Studios website
It does appear here, in the 'Console-exclusive PS5 games from PlayStation Studios' section, and it's also on the PlayStation Studios category at PS Store.
doesn't even appear in this tweets that recaps the most voted games by the players even if it's tied with Astro as the game that got more "trophies":

Because as you may realize, that recap does not cover every category. Your conspiracy is retarded.
It didn't get the same than the rest, and isn't an internally developed game. But yes, I agree that Stellar Blade is an exception.
Why does this even matter? Sony is in most cases a publisher rather than a developer (outside of Astro Bot).
It's a Sony AAA 3rd party exclusive from Square Enix, Sony must have paid a good chunk of money for it.
Just like they did with Final Fantasy and Foamstars, it means literally nothing.
 

Aenima

Member
Drukmann became one of my favorite game directors after i finished TLOU1 and then one of the worst game directors after i finished TLOU2. TLOU2 was the last NG game i preordered and ill make sure to never do that mistake again.

Overall since he became the lead of the studio, the games became much more political and its not something that makes me excited about when i think about videogames.
 
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yurinka

Member
Answer the question, yuri.
You are quoting to my reply. It would depend on the character, I can like or dislike him independently of his gender, skin color or sexuality because this is not what makes me like or dislike a character.

I like characters like Ellie, Poison (trans from Final Fight/Street Fighter), Kat, Jin Sakai, many Street Fighter characters of any skin color (these also includes Asian ones from both genders) etc.

Oh sure, now you don't know that DG2 was literally never pitched to Sony.
I know and said it many times: it was the Bend internal studio head who didn't want to make DG2 after DG1 and make a new IP instead. He didn't say why, we don't know it so we can only speculate.

You said 'AAA' just to go around and say that TMC does not count. I mean, it's not like Sony is selling its AA IPs left and right, why make that distinction?
Yes, I consider that a small game from Q-Games that almost nobody bought (I was one of the few) is not the same than a Hideo Kojima AAA IP, whose first games was the best selling Hideo Kojima game ever.

Even if both are games or game IPs. AAA games are a different beast.

Then Sony is purposely throwing its alleged mission out of the window just to grow in China? Sounds more like whatever you're sperging about isn't even happening, at all.
China is the largest gaming market, so most big gaming companies want to grow in China. It's one of the reasons of why publishers like Sony expand to PC and mobile, because consoles aren't that big there and people mostly play on PC and mobile there.

Sony is partnering with many Asian -and particularly Chinese- companies and created the China Hero Project because wants to grow in China, yes.

In this case to want to grow in China is capitalism, not wokism. They just want to make more money by growing in a huge market where they can grow a lot.

Every Sony game is published by SIE, PS Studios is not a publisher.
Sony has multiple game publishers. Some of them owned by SIE: PS Studios is one of them, another one is Bungie. Or PlayStation Publishing for PC. And also have SIE Publishing, which releases stuff not published by their other labels. They also have other ones outside SIE Crunchyroll Games, Aniplex or Lasengle. Under Sony Pictures they also have Sony Pictures Virtual Reality, who as can be guessed by their name publishes VR games that use Sony Pictures IPs.

Has as much weight as Monkey King on PS4 not having the Japan Studio branding. But heck, at least with Stellar Blade it makes sense that it did begin development before Sony became involved.
Yes, Stellar Blade started before Sony got involved. As part of his job scouting interesting indie projects, Shuhei Yoshida found it and offered their support. PlayStation Indies normally only supports 3rd party (which means not published by Sony) indie games by giving them marketing, funding, localization, porting or other things they may need depending on the case.

In this case they made an exception and moved it to the first party games team (PS Indies is inside their 3rd Party Relations division, a separate one) to get it funded, published and marketed by Sony via SIE Publishing.

Something that could explain the exception is that it's a Korean game, and as happens with China or India, Sony is particularly interested on growing there and to sign deals with the main gamedevs of that country to grow their console userbase there but also thinking in their future PC and mobile plans.

It does appear here, in the 'Console-exclusive PS5 games from PlayStation Studios' section, and it's also on the PlayStation Studios category at PS Store.
Weird, because it doesn't appear in the PS Studios website and doesn't feature the PS Studios logo in the game intro or trailers. But well, makes sense to include it these store sections.

Because as you may realize, that recap does not cover every category. Your conspiracy is retarded.
Yes, it isn't a recap of every category. It features the games that got the biggest amount of 'trophies' with the exception of Stellar Blade. It isn't a conspiracy.

Why does this even matter? Sony is in most cases a publisher rather than a developer (outside of Astro Bot).
Because for them there's a distinction between different things:
  • Bungie or PS Studios internally developed first party games (Asobi, ND, Insomnicac etc games)
  • 2nd party / externally deevloped PS Studios first party games (Helldivers 2, Until Dawn remake, etc)
  • SIE Publishing stuff (Stellar Blade and exceptional cases of 3rd party games published by Sony in some specific region as happened when Destiny 1 & 2 was published in Japan by them when was an Activision game, as happened with Call of Duty: Black Ops III or other titles, or when Sony helps publish a PS port of some successful -typically from PC- 3rd party indie game)
  • 3rd party games (games not published by Sony anywhere even if may get some marketing deal, exclusivity deal, funding by Sony)
Just like they did with Final Fantasy and Foamstars, it means literally nothing.
Yes, it was a AAA 3rd party exclusive from Square Enix, like these ones and many more. To sign their exclusivity costs a lot of money instead of "nothing".
 

Flakster99

Member
He's overrated as are the games he has made.

I'll be honest, still kinda pissed off @ Druckman for the lack of credit to Straley in the tv series of TLOU. It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, you know? It's an unlikable thing to do, and speaks volumes about his character. Taking credit for others work is his legacy. So fuck Neil.
 
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JayK47

Member
I think he is past his prime. At one time he was skilled, but he has since let ideology take over. He is not the only one. So many have succumbed to woke. I purchased a PS4 because of Uncharted. I have passed on PS5 because of woke. I used to love ND games. Now I avoid them. Sad to see it, but there are plenty of other things to do besides play game and watch movies that preach to me.
 

nial

Member
You are quoting to my reply. It would depend on the character, I can like or dislike him independently of his gender, skin color or sexuality because this is not what makes me like or dislike a character.

I like characters like Ellie, Poison (trans from Final Fight/Street Fighter), Kat, Jin Sakai, many Street Fighter characters of any skin color (these also includes Asian ones from both genders) etc.
What is your exact issue with Atsu, then?
I know and said it many times: it was the Bend internal studio head who didn't want to make DG2 after DG1 and make a new IP instead. He didn't say why, we don't know it so we can only speculate.
So why are you blaming upper SIE management here?
Yes, I consider that a small game from Q-Games that almost nobody bought (I was one of the few) is not the same than a Hideo Kojima AAA IP, whose first games was the best selling Hideo Kojima game ever.

Even if both are games or game IPs. AAA games are a different beast.
It doesn't matter one bit and we already agreed that your initial speculation as to why it happened was retarded. Move on.
China is the largest gaming market, so most big gaming companies want to grow in China. It's one of the reasons of why publishers like Sony expand to PC and mobile, because consoles aren't that big there and people mostly play on PC and mobile there.

Sony is partnering with many Asian -and particularly Chinese- companies and created the China Hero Project because wants to grow in China, yes.

In this case to want to grow in China is capitalism, not wokism. They just want to make more money by growing in a huge market where they can grow a lot.
Sony is inherently a capitalist entity, I don't see how their way to operate in China differs from the rest of the world looking at things, but keep going on.
Sony has multiple game publishers. Some of them owned by SIE: PS Studios is one of them, another one is Bungie. Or PlayStation Publishing for PC. And also have SIE Publishing, which releases stuff not published by their other labels. They also have other ones outside SIE Crunchyroll Games, Aniplex or Lasengle. Under Sony Pictures they also have Sony Pictures Virtual Reality, who as can be guessed by their name publishes VR games that use Sony Pictures IPs.
Again with your autistic bullshit, PS Studios is not a game publisher, it's not a separate legal entity from SIE, IT'S LITERALLY ALL SIE.
There's nothing different from Stellar Blade compared to Spider-Man 2 regarding the publishing operations of each title.
Yes, Stellar Blade started before Sony got involved. As part of his job scouting interesting indie projects, Shuhei Yoshida found it and offered their support. PlayStation Indies normally only supports 3rd party (which means not published by Sony) indie games by giving them marketing, funding, localization, porting or other things they may need depending on the case.

In this case they made an exception and moved it to the first party games team (PS Indies is inside their 3rd Party Relations division, a separate one) to get it funded, published and marketed by Sony via SIE Publishing.
Correct, exactly like Rise of the Ronin, Until Dawn, Death Stranding 2: On the Beach, etc.
Weird, because it doesn't appear in the PS Studios website and doesn't feature the PS Studios logo in the game intro or trailers. But well, makes sense to include it these store sections.
It used to appear there, probably somethig was messed up.
As to why it didn't include the PSS logo, well:
Has as much weight as Monkey King on PS4 not having the Japan Studio branding. But heck, at least with Stellar Blade it makes sense that it did begin development before Sony became involved.
Yes, it isn't a recap of every category. It features the games that got the biggest amount of 'trophies' with the exception of Stellar Blade. It isn't a conspiracy.
No, it features the categories deemed more important by SIE. Resident Evil 4 out of all things got featured there.
And yes, it is a conspiracy, and a retarded one at that.
Because for them there's a distinction between different things:
  • Bungie or PS Studios internally developed first party games (Asobi, ND, Insomnicac etc games)
  • 2nd party / externally deevloped PS Studios first party games (Helldivers 2, Until Dawn remake, etc)
  • SIE Publishing stuff (Stellar Blade and exceptional cases of 3rd party games published by Sony in some specific region as happened when Destiny 1 & 2 was published in Japan by them when was an Activision game, as happened with Call of Duty: Black Ops III or other titles, or when Sony helps publish a PS port of some successful -typically from PC- 3rd party indie game)
  • 3rd party games (games not published by Sony anywhere even if may get some marketing deal, exclusivity deal, funding by Sony)
Stellar Blade is a PS Studios project.
But if your reasoning is that "hurr durr they will only feature the death of le cis white male in muh internally developed games only", then you lost me. Dodging everything as long as it can support your stance, but as you already looked at the possibility of Death Stranding 2 going through the supposed same thing, it seems that you're not even consistent at that.
Yes, it was a AAA 3rd party exclusive from Square Enix, like these ones and many more. To sign their exclusivity costs a lot of money instead of "nothing".
It means nothing regarding the dumb shit you're implying. Dear lord, stop playing stupid.
I know that the next few replies in this thread will be you and me arguing, so at least try to talk like a functional being, and less stupid walls of text, please.
 
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Kumomeme

Member
not saying he is terrible director. he definitely doing great job despite some questionable subjective writing.

BUT, the problem is people and perhaps he himself attributed everything toward him while totally neglecting other people prior that. people act like all these time he is the one carry whole things. people forgot TLOU2 is his only first game he act as the sole main director. he been partnered with Bruce Starley for first game and UC4. that guy been balancing his output for years. if we look at history, the one carried the most portion is Amy Heanig and Bruce Starley. it is fine if want to praise him but dont act like he doing everything alone before TLOU2. dont pretend those other important people not exist. also people put him on pedestial too much despite other people before who did equal or better job, especially those like the name i mentioned above and guy like Justin Richmond laid foundation to him and whole studio that didnt get similliar attention. heck other big name director out there also didnt get kind of worshipping. especially considering his number of game and decades of life time achievement is lesser than them. but people somehow put him like someone who been making games in industry for 50 years.

also too woke. which is a problem. too much agenda. it also feels like all the worshipping and publicity being thrown as an unnatural, forcefull attempt to put him as some kind of all times successfull developers especially as a woke icon.

and to be honest there lot of talented people at ND and im not suprise if he is gone, there is someone else could do same or better job.
 
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Heimdall_Xtreme

Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
I have to get a time machine and destroy the code of that damn game. And give Druckmann a zap...

And sting Hulst's eyes.

And stomp Jim Ryan on their foot.

To the 3 stooges.
 

yurinka

Member
What is your exact issue with Atsu, then?
That I'm tired to see my favorite protagonists being replaced by though and ugly, androginious, poorly written lesbians because they are Mary Sues that need to check many things in the woke DEI censorship checklist.

So why are you blaming upper SIE management here?
Because even if most big companies are putting woke designs in their games, Sony is the one replacing or removing all their white, male, heterosexual or attractive protagonists and mentioned to do so for that reason. And they are my favorite company, I dislike to don't have Days Gone 2 or Gravity Rush 3 because I love these games, I don't care if EA does the same in let's say Dragon Age because I don't care about these series.

Sony is inherently a capitalist entity, I don't see how their way to operate in China differs from the rest of the world looking at things, but keep going on.
Trying to enter China because there are a ton of people who buy these type of games there is capitalism and understandable because increases the amount of money they make.

But to reject the biggest group of customers they always had to supposedly trying to appeal a small portion (women and lesbian also normally prefer to play with femenine, appealing, well written characters) instead is nonsensical for their business because instead of increasing their customer base shrinks it, causes the go woke go broke.

Again with your autistic bullshit, PS Studios is not a game publisher
You're the autistic one. As I mentioned PS Studios is one of the SIE publishers.

, it's not a separate legal entity from SIE, IT'S LITERALLY ALL SIE.
I never said it's a separate legal entity from SIE. I said it's one of the game publishing labels of SIE/Sony.

There's nothing different from Stellar Blade compared to Spider-Man 2 regarding the publishing operations of each title.
Yes, one is published by SIE Publishing and the other one by PS Studios. One has a smaller marketing campaign and the other a giant one. Understandably because one is the first AAA and new IP from a Korean Studio and the other one is one of the biggest stablished IPs and is made by Insomniac. One is an internally developed game and the other is a 2nd party game.

Correct, exactly like Rise of the Ronin, Until Dawn, Death Stranding 2: On the Beach, etc.
No, the other ones are AAA 2nd party games published by PS Studios and started under Sony.

It used to appear there, probably somethig was messed up.
As to why it didn't include the PSS logo, well:
As I remember SIE didn't publish any Monkey King game (I assume you mean Black Myth Wukong). So obviously won't put there any PS Studios or SIE logo.

Stellar Blade is a PS Studios project.
It is not, doesn't have the PS Studios logo in the game intro, trailer and doesn't appear in their website.

It means nothing regarding the dumb shit you're implying. Dear lord, stop playing stupid.
I know that the next few replies in this thread will be you and me arguing, so at least try to talk like a functional being, and less stupid walls of text, please.
There won't be more arguing, I won't since you keep insulting me because you ran out of arguments and I don't like to talk with uneducated people who doesn't know how to properly debate. So fuck you moron and good bye.
 

taizuke

Member


This video is about pattern recognition and encapsulates why we should be skeptical of Druckmann.

I still enjoy ND games and so far I'm still on board for Intergalactic, but I can't deny Druckmann isn't without his faults.
 

nial

Member
That I'm tired to see my favorite protagonists being replaced by though and ugly, androginious, poorly written lesbians because they are Mary Sues that need to check many things in the woke DEI censorship checklist.
We were talking about Atsu, yurin.
Because even if most big companies are putting woke designs in their games, Sony is the one replacing or removing all their white, male, heterosexual or attractive protagonists and mentioned to do so for that reason.
You still haven't showed any irrefutable evidence of that being the case, outside of the retarded idea that SIE sold the DS IP because they wanted to get rid of le cis white male (you're probably the only person in the entire world who thought so).
And they are my favorite company, I dislike to don't have Days Gone 2 or Gravity Rush 3 because I love these games, I don't care if EA does the same in let's say Dragon Age because I don't care about these series.
We don't have Days Gone 2 because, again, it was literally never pitched to SIE.
We don't have Gravity Rush 3 because even when Toyama was still at SIE, he wanted to move on and started to work on a horror project.
Trying to enter China because there are a ton of people who buy these type of games there is capitalism and understandable because increases the amount of money they make.

But to reject the biggest group of customers they always had to supposedly trying to appeal a small portion (women and lesbian also normally prefer to play with femenine, appealing, well written characters) instead is nonsensical for their business because instead of increasing their customer base shrinks it, causes the go woke go broke.
Michael Jordan Lol GIF

The ESL-ness on top is just pure comedy.
You're the autistic one. As I mentioned PS Studios is one of the SIE publishers.
Let's take a look at Astro Bot page on the PS Store and see what exactly is listed as the publisher.
Will you keep going?
I never said it's a separate legal entity from SIE. I said it's one of the game publishing labels of SIE/Sony.
It's not a "publishing label", it's just the global production division of SIE, hence its branding being included on every first-party game (outside of some exceptions like Stellar Blade for whatever reason).
It's the exact same reason as to why games like Tokyo Jungle or Bloodborne, despite being developed by external developers, included a Japan Studio branding, as that used to be the production division of SIE in Japan.
Yes, one is published by SIE Publishing and the other one by PS Studios. One has a smaller marketing campaign and the other a giant one. Understandably because one is the first AAA and new IP from a Korean Studio and the other one is one of the biggest stablished IPs and is made by Insomniac. One is an internally developed game and the other is a 2nd party game.
BOTH ARE PUBLISHED BY SIE, DEAR FUCKING LORD.
No, the other ones are AAA 2nd party games published by PS Studios and started under Sony.
All are PlayStation Studios projects published by SIE. Period.
As I remember SIE didn't publish any Monkey King game (I assume you mean Black Myth Wukong). So obviously won't put there any PS Studios or SIE logo.
This game was produced by Japan Studio (same producer as Freedon Wars) and developed by external developer, Hexadrive.
And yet, it didn't include a Japan Studio brandijg like Bloodborne, Everybody's Golf, etc. for whatever reason.
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It's pretty much what happened with Stellar Blade, as it's a PlayStation Studios project with producers that also worked on Rise of the Ronin.
It is not, doesn't have the PS Studios logo in the game intro, trailer
Yes, it is. Can you shut the fuck up now?
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and doesn't appear in their website.
Are you being dense on purpose?
Weird, because it doesn't appear in the PS Studios website and doesn't feature the PS Studios logo in the game intro or trailers. But well, makes sense to include it these store sections.
There won't be more arguing, I won't since you keep insulting me because you ran out of arguments and I don't like to talk with uneducated people who doesn't know how to properly debate. So fuck you moron and good bye.
Sorry, I've made the effort to properly address every point of yours, and yes, it's annoying to argue with someone with the comprehension skills of a 12 y/o.
Bye!
 
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