GhostWriter24
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Self-criticism. Have them write essays about how their deviant behavior hurts society.
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Thank you for that. Please share more of your parenting tactics with the world.
Self-criticism. Have them write essays about how their deviant behavior hurts society.
After a quick google search, there's this article from Parents.com:
http://www.parents.com/toddlers-preschoolers/discipline/spanking/spanking-discipline-debate/
It talks a little about the pro side and the anti side, but mostly sides with the anti folks.
It talks about the extremely large number of studies that have tried to address this issue, and the inherent problems with the subject.
"Little shits" was so nuanced. My point stands about using physical punishment to get children to submit and not be "little shits."Why is it ok for people to debate by taking a nuanced argument and posting the most extreme example?
I think the problem with this is the idea that
1. Spanking has to be the solution
2. That creating a parenting style where spanking is a requirement is self defeating
Do gaffers really think there are just kids that -have- to be spanked, and coincidentally, those kids are just the kids of people who are pro spanking?
Like.... Maybe this kid gets spanked all the time? How many gaffers start stories like "I needed to get spanked, I would steal cars, get into fights, abuse animals and the only thing that would keep me in line is spankings" without realizing the fundamental problem.
LmaoShoutouts to all my dudes raised by immigrant parents laughing at this thread. I see you.
People keep saying "taps." Is this coded language. Do you actually mean taps or do you mean slaps on the bottom/hand?
A tap isn't harmful. I don't see using that kind of physicality as abuse. Like tapping someone on the shoulder or pushing a child's hand away from a stove. Hitting to cause pain as a means to reinforce a message is messed up to me.
Heh? Of course it's okay to strike in self defence.Shit like this is why people laugh. You get responses like this that take things to such an absurd level. It is never appropriate to strike someone at any time...hahaha.
Shoutouts to all my dudes raised by immigrant parents laughing at this thread. I see you.
Its impossible for data to show that it does not work, only that it does not work on average. Even the studies posted earlier in this thread which were anti-spanking indicate that it is somewhat effective (ignore that it is ineffective title and read the quotes).yet everyone in here was at some point a child and had to deal with punishment from parents be it spanking or something else some kids learned to deal with it some could not others evem defend it but at the end of the day the data says it does NOT WORK which also shits on your its just discipline line.
Those immigrated into a better world with their worse world parenting style.Shoutouts to all my dudes raised by immigrant parents laughing at this thread. I see you.
Spanking is not child abuse.The pope is a horrible person for promoting child abuse. Let's just accept that this guy will be as bad as the previous guy.
Also long as dignity is maintained.
Sure.
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Your response was shitty. People should question themselves and seek the best solution based in evidence. Your response was to put down this idea by saying you operate on instinct or some other nonsense.I'm an atheist.. get over yourself with your broad generalizations. So kindly, stop making assumptions about shit you don't know about.
"Little shits" was so nuanced. My point stands about using physical punishment to get children to submit and not be "little shits."
I think there is also a difference between little taps on the hand or bottom and spanking.
People talk about taps like they are tapping someone on the shoulder. I will say, I don't think that's bad. If you were hitting a kid hard in order for them to feel pain. My point stands.
Those immigrated into a better world with their worse world parenting style.![]()
I do wonder tho if people Here are willingly ignoring the research that has been done.
Maybe a compromise? Guys you are not child abusers but what you plan to do has a high chance of damaging your children so please try to evade it at all costs. Look into reinforcement and not punishment as a solution i implore you from the bottom of my heart
Your response was shitty. People should question themselves and seek the best solution based in evidence. Your response was to put down this idea by saying you operate on instinct or some other nonsense.
Shoutouts to all my dudes raised by immigrant parents laughing at this thread. I see you.
I guess the batteries finally ran out on the Popebot and they had to bring out the real thing.
Dude's been saying some stupid shit lately.
Pope says something I disagree with: he is a bad Pope and says stupid shit. Neat.
My dad always had a long talk with me before I got spanked. He gave of good advice but I was fucking terrified of white people for the longest time because of it tho.
I guess the batteries finally ran out on the Popebot and they had to bring out the real thing.
Dude's been saying some stupid shit lately.
Punishment is fine. Hitting your kids is not. Reinforcement is overall more effective, but you have to be willing to punish when it gets to that point.I do wonder tho if people Here are willingly ignoring the research that has been done.
Maybe a compromise? Guys you are not child abusers but what you plan to do has a high chance of damaging your children so please try to evade it at all costs. Look into reinforcement and not punishment as a solution i implore you from the bottom of my heart
Well it's great that that's how you justify physical abuse of children to yourself.
Of course, it will never br my job to tell parents what to do but advise. All i can really say is that as a community we dont endorse it and that the countries banning the action are doing so for a reason.There's research that says otherwise as well. Though you're studying this stuff.. I think you should understand that actually trying to research this in a scientific way is almost impossible.
Most parents I know spanking is a small part of an overall disciplinary system. Also, you have to take in that kids are not robots, they aren't all the same. My 2 kids are similar in a lot of ways, but vastly different in others. We have to take a slightly different approach to discipline with them.. what works for one doesn't for the other. There's no one approach to this subject.
So you can't just put column A - spankers.. column B - non-spankers and come to a conclusion that spanking was the only thing at play.
I know parents who aren't opposed to spanking, that have kids they never spanked.. and ones they did.
It's not a simple thing.
Shoutouts to all my dudes raised by immigrant parents laughing at this thread. I see you.
Also, if you aren't a parent, you shouldn't be allowed to post in this thread.
I respectfully disagree.No, you tossed an insult my way and basically told me to google how to be a parent. Then accused me of basing my belief on religion.
I'm not the problem here.
This, a 100% this!!! I don't know the US a lot but damn people I am baffled by the notion of some gaffers of comparing spanking to child abuse. People you got to be serious, I know that spanking isn't the solution but it some cases it is.
US GAF needs to go outside to see how child parenting is made.
You are absolutely right of course i didnt meant it to sound like punishment should never be done,thats just 2nd language syndrome creeping outPunishment is fine. Hitting your kids is not. Reinforcement is overall more effective, but you have to be willing to punish when it gets to that point.
yeah, only people with extensive personal child-raising experience should opine on this topic.
People like Pope Francis.
yeah, only people with extensive personal child-raising experience should opine on this topic.
People like Pope Francis.
Of course, it will never br my job to tell parents what to do but advise. All i can really say is that as a community we dont endorse it and that the countries banning the action are doing so for a reason.
This is kinda like risk management, you can spank them and kids can end up being unnafected but in my personal opinion and of my teachers the risks and posible damage outweight the benefit
The Catholic church is a renowned authority on LGBT-rights, women's health issues, economics and education. C'mon get with the times.yeah, only people with extensive personal child-raising experience should opine on this topic.
People like Pope Francis.
yeah, only people with extensive personal child-raising experience should opine on this topic.
People like Pope Francis.
i'm from the US and got spanked only when i deserved it, and that was one time and that was because i hit my sister for some stupid childish reason i've forgotten. and even then it was a spanking on my bum. Open palm slaps to the face otoh should never happen(basically i cant see slapping a child across the face as anything ok, i've only seen spankings as something that happens on the ass.
yeah, only people with extensive personal child-raising experience should opine on this topic.
People like Pope Francis.
yeah, only people with extensive personal child-raising experience should opine on this topic.
People like Pope Francis.
Haha damn.
Yeah I always thought it was odd that Catholic priests are supposed to give family advice, but aren't allowed to start a family.
It's also that the vast amount of research and literature shows it's ill effects and poor effectiveness compared to alternatives. Is that not even a consideration for you, that maybe the research that's out there shows spanking is bad, and that's why almost unanimously, child psychologists and development specialists say not to do it?Well, I get it though.
It's pretty tough for a teacher of child development to say "hitting kids is okay".
No offense, but any person who tells that from a position of authority is setting themselves up for civil liabilities.
Not exactly a situation someone in that position would want to put themselves in.