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I really don't think the two are competing now.
People thinking this have forgotten that 7 years have passed since JT was hot on the scene. Now he's old, less attractive, married to one of the most disgusting women in Hollywood, 10x douchier, and creatively tapped. The teeny boppers are list to him. He'll, his old audience may be lost to him, putting out vile shit like Suit and Tie.
Supermanisdead
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4 > I Am... > B'Day = Crazy In Love > Sasha Fierce
give up
This album is absolute trash. I don't see how you can say: "4 represented a new direction for Bey, after the super messy I Am... Sasha Fierce, she went for more of a throwback sound." When B'day also had a throwback sound throughout the entire album, with far more successful songs (in terms of quality and sales). And as far as themes go, Beyonce has been tossing around the same tired themes since Dangerously In Love, which has FAR superior songs about loving someone than 4. "Baby Boy," Dangerously In Love," and "Crazy in Love" shit on pretty much everything in 4 with a love theme, sans "I Miss U."
I think the true theme you're talking about in 4 is: "let's take what I have done in the past and try to recreate it." This is where you get songs like "Run The World" (Single ladies clone), "Best Thing I Never Had" (Irreplaceable clone), or "I Was Here" (Listen clone). The way some girls around here try to claim these songs are fresh just goes to show how new to the Beyonce stan game they are. I will give Beyonce credit for having better vocals on this album than her past efforts. However, I refuse to sit her and let this album be held as her best when the creativity and soul of 4 is as absent as the melanin in Beyonce's skin.
TELLLLLLLLL ITTTTTTTTT SISSSSSSSS!!!!
This is exactly what I am talking about when I say "new to the Beyonce stan game"
Supermanisdead
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I Am... had <3 Halo <3
edit: eff off, botty. I have been a Bey fan since DC days ok.
edit: eff off, botty. I have been a Bey fan since DC days ok.
Wafflecakes
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We will see. I certainly don't think S&T will help his chances, but I do think there is a chance that the public will still be there for him.
I don't think he has a big chance of getting back to where he was though. Bieber is simply a step ahead of him in that respect. Bruno Mars is also taking up a lot of oxygen in the market JT thrived in.
What's the tea on Jessica Biel.
Supermanisdead
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I have a VHS recording of her cameo on Smart Guy. Don't even try iT.
Supermanisdead
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whatever. i was distracted by the alien in marius_ avatar
stop coming for my opinions -__-
im not a new fan
stop coming for my opinions -__-
im not a new fan
B'Day's sound is basically an homage to funk, and 70's R&B/soul. Though, you probably weren't born when the album came out so I can't really hold it against you.
What's the tea on Jessica Biel.
Nothing. I just don't like ha. She's sweaty and gross and vile and her acting is horrible.
I think the true theme you're talking about in 4 is: "let's take what I have done in the past and try to recreate it." This is where you get songs like "Run The World" (Single ladies clone), "Best Thing I Never Had" (Irreplaceable clone), or "I Was Here" (Listen clone). The way some girls around here try to claim these songs are fresh just goes to show how new to the Beyonce stan game they are. I will give Beyonce credit for having better vocals on this album than her past efforts. However, I refuse to sit her and let this album be held as her best when the creativity and soul of 4 is as absent as the melanin in Beyonce's skin.
what? Did you not see me throw those EXACT tracks in the trash can?
But you stan for Olivia Numb.
go easy on him
he's a republican and you know they have the reading comprehension of a glazed donut with sprinkles
Wafflecakes
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lol "I Am" is the only Beyonce album I own (I tended to buy singles until recently)......maybe that is why I don't stan her.
Yeah I am kind of bored.
1D's Stand Up from their first album is slaying me right now (despite its cheesiness).
There are so many albums coming out this year that I am not worried though.
Yeah I am kind of bored.
1D's Stand Up from their first album is slaying me right now (despite its cheesiness).
I hope Union J works out....we should have a first single soon I imagine
There are so many albums coming out this year that I am not worried though.
but I'm the one who's supposed to have reading comprehension problems, right?
This is the definitive ranking.
True but Im just in a funk right now. Im getting my music teas from other sources than mainstream now. Im just..wanting Union J to really break out and be great.
First single is in March.
Like most pop music, Beyonce's music abuses themes about love. But there is a big difference on how they are used when you compare B'Day (and some of DIL) to 4.
If you pay attention to the lyrics on both albums you will notice that B'Day is a lot more raunchy and explicit than 4. B'Day has lyrics such as "Give it to mama", "my man gon' take it off tonight", "your sexiness is so appealing I can't let it go", and then there's the intro to Suga Mama.
The lyrics on 4 bring images of a more pure (I guess mature is a better word) relationship (1+1, Love On Top) and dedication (Countdown, End of Time, Rather Die Young).
If you pay attention to the lyrics on both albums you will notice that B'Day is a lot more raunchy and explicit than 4. B'Day has lyrics such as "Give it to mama", "my man gon' take it off tonight", "your sexiness is so appealing I can't let it go", and then there's the intro to Suga Mama.
The lyrics on 4 bring images of a more pure (I guess mature is a better word) relationship (1+1, Love On Top) and dedication (Countdown, End of Time, Rather Die Young).
I suppose on the ladder of reading (in)comprehension, the #NAVY is not as high up as the Republicans.
DMJ telling the truthT
Sorry Kyon, I couldnt do it
I need to go take a shower
next time I will have a Zayn avatar prepped for when you slip up~
Supermanisdead
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I Am and Sasha Fierce can be split. I Am has flawless Halo, Disappear, If I Were A Boy. But the only great songs on Sasha Fierce is Sweet Dreams and possibly Scared of Lonely. I Am... is just plain better than most of her work. But idc, y'all can continue to sleep on this flawless double disc.
Wafflecakes
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*giggles*
We will see. Jamie is legit talented so at least they have that going for them.
I hope their single is decent.
Why do you always forget to lie?
Jamie is the light of the group. ( despite my obvious bias to George's cute twinkness.)
O MY LORD why would i check for The Wanted?
What does it matter? I am still disputing other points you brought up, in addition to addressing some of the other people in this thread that make the claim that 4 is fresh and her best album.
this was bad.
Union J and 1D strike me as two groups both aiming at the same demographic. No chance for them to succeed with 1D Domination in effect.
Wafflecakes
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Jamie is the light of the group. ( despite my obvious bias to George's cute twinkness.)
O MY LORD why would i check for The Wanted?
Eh I will probably check out The Wanted's album....I actually owned their first one LONG before I stanned 1D
Amazing 99c album sale
I personally think that The Wanted are done....but we will see.
Union J and 1D strike me as two groups both aiming at the same demographic. No chance for them to succeed with 1D Domination in effect.
I used to think that as well. Then I listened to some of their later performances on X Factor.
Their lead singer, Jaymi, is a legit vocalist. Probably better than ANY pop male on the scene right now. That is the only reason I give them a chance. I think there is a niche is the pop market for a very good male singer.
Wafflecakes
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Dammit why did everyone stop posting suddenly?
How is it not fresh compared to past works?
Where are the songs like Countdown, I Miss You, I Care, and 1+1 on her first 3 albums?
4 shows a progression in the sound of her music and also a growth in maturity.
#Spamcakes
I'll have to give Union J another listen. A good male vocalist is hard to come by these days.
Wafflecakes
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#Spamcakes
I'll have to give Union J another listen. A good male vocalist is hard to come by these days.
Let me get you a link. They were new as a group and kind of sucked early on. They got MUCH better by the end.
Girl, she had those bases covered on her DEBUT.
#Spamcakes
I'll have to give Union J another listen. A good male vocalist is hard to come by these days.
What is with that new avatar? Heinous.
Supermanisdead
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She did it better on 4.
I actually wouldn't change anything about the standard tracklist of 4. Thematically speaking, it's consistent and tells a story the whole way through (up until "I Was Here," at least).
The way I see it, the album's subject matter is roughly divided between a doomed and successful relationships. Tracks 1-4 deal with the failed relationship, and Tracks 5-10 deal with the fostering, maintenance and solidification of eternal love.
It's only fitting that 1+1 opens the album because it presents the concept of love in a very simplistic and mathematical way, and a successful relationship is anything but simple. This is why the second half of the album, dealing with success in love, takes about three songs of development and road bumps until she finally starts professing a deep attachment to the other person; this section is culminated with End of Time, the affirmation that she has indeed found eternal love.
I Was Here, though not exactly part of the prior narrative, nevertheless fits with the theme since a successful relationship could be taken as "leaving a mark" on this world. The one inconsistency seems to be Run The World, but I can't hate too much on a boppy album closer since I'm quite frankly sick of albums ending on a slow note.
And that is why 4 is her best album.
The way I see it, the album's subject matter is roughly divided between a doomed and successful relationships. Tracks 1-4 deal with the failed relationship, and Tracks 5-10 deal with the fostering, maintenance and solidification of eternal love.
It's only fitting that 1+1 opens the album because it presents the concept of love in a very simplistic and mathematical way, and a successful relationship is anything but simple. This is why the second half of the album, dealing with success in love, takes about three songs of development and road bumps until she finally starts professing a deep attachment to the other person; this section is culminated with End of Time, the affirmation that she has indeed found eternal love.
I Was Here, though not exactly part of the prior narrative, nevertheless fits with the theme since a successful relationship could be taken as "leaving a mark" on this world. The one inconsistency seems to be Run The World, but I can't hate too much on a boppy album closer since I'm quite frankly sick of albums ending on a slow note.
And that is why 4 is her best album.
Wafflecakes
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Whats a Union J.....
lol
@ Trigger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOpOV6qaVtE&list=FLg6OGmksjpPaGDzct-E9XTQ&index=2
Jaymi is the only good singer unfortunately. Starts about a minute in.
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