Supermanisdead
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But beyonce xtina is a grown woman with a child. Why is she putting her junk on magazine covers? How tacky.
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That isn't my point. All I am saying is: I don't think Xtina goes to these photo shoots with the intent to get men off to her, like godels is implying. A woman can be sexy and show off her body for herself. It's not like she's doing playboy where the blatant and obvious intent is for men to see her as something they want to get off to/have sex with.
Unless I am to believe Xtina went into that Maxim shoot thinking "I'm going to be extra sexy so that men see this and just want to fuck me." I am going to go with my gut and think Xtina went into that shoot and thought "I'm going to slay this photoshoot cause I am healthy, thin, and beautiful... The haters can suck it cause I am a Legend."
Well.. in my mind at least.
But yeah, I am not going to fall in line and say Xtina is pandering to men just because she did a sensual photoshoot showing off her banging bod.
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Your blind hatred for Xtina is reaching pupi-levels incomprehensible Just stahp.
This isn't even about Xtina though. I just find it a bit frustrating that whenever somebody does something 'for' the gays you refer to it as pandering. It reminds me of straight people who ask a gay person to 'tone down the gay' for mentioning a hot guy immediately after a conversation about tits.
For instance, you once called Frank Ocean a panderer for posting a topless photo on Instagram. Maybe he just wanted to empower himself and own his sexuality. But then your fave splashes her body over the page of a magazine read almost exclusively by straight men and you do not regard it as even similar. Doing things for the gays = pandering. Doing things for the straights = not pandering.
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You just said Gaga was pandering, so clearly you conclusion is bull. Oh and as for Francis... The same guy who used to be homophobic and say things like "no homo"
Then he comes out and is marketed as "brave."
And Lest you forget that I also called out Justin Bieber and Miguel for straight pandering, too. And I even retracted my stance on Macklemore's song being a pandering song.
Get over it. Not here for this anti-straight agenda.
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1) if she was doing a photoshoot for herself then she could just hire someone to photograph her at her home.
2) If she didn't want to pander to men then she wouldn't agree to a magazine that obviously appeals to horny straight men. She would do what Gaga does constantly and poses for Vogue and Vanity Fair. That's not to say that Gaga doesn't like pandering to straight men too, but sexual charisma was never at the root of Gaga's aesthetic like it is with Xtina.
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Saying "no homo" is more idiotic than it is homophobic.
Not to mention if you're in the closet, you're trying to blend in with straight people, hence say the kinds of things that they say, e.g. 'no homo'.
Your blind hatred for Xtina is reaching pupi-levels incomprehensible Just stahp.
I see Im always on your mind. Thats cute honey. Soon I'll print one of your pre-k shade and put it on my fridge.
But is Maxim/GQ/etc any different these days?
I mean, maybe in the past, before the internet, it could be said that posing for a men's magazine was largely pandering to a male audience because that was usually the only audience that would buy the magazine (and thus, see the pictures). But, nowadays, I think it could be argued that posing in ANY magazine is all about the general exposure, seeing as the pictures are going to end up all over the net and completely devoid of the context of the magazines they came from.
I mean, I could pull up 5 random photos of Gaga, Beyonce, and Christina off of Google and, barring those that may be from some super iconic shoot, do you think you would know which magazine they were originally shot for?
LOL, sis...they say?
Between this and some of your posts in the Robin Thicke thread, I'm starting to wonder if you have an irrational hatred of straight men.
Mau ®;73847783 said:
The Black Madonna has added two more dates to her SOLD OUT WORLD TOUR. She's added her hometown of Barbados and a stadium in Puerto Rico.
- Hiram Bithorn Stadium, San Juan, Puerto Rico October 29, 2013
- Kensington Oval, Bridgetown, Barbados November 1, 2013
This is the beginning of her Latin American tour, which is mostly composed of stadium dates according to sources. A few stadium dates in Brazil have already leaked.
The black Madonna selling out more and more dates. I love how she is a global touring force, and can continue to sell records and clock hits unlike some others.
Just for the record, are you agreeing with the stance that Xtina took the Maxim photoshoot in order to pander to men?
Do we have updated numbers from the European leg yet?
No
Hopefully the next time BB updates it's box scores we get tea since that leg is over and we got tea when the NA leg ended.
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Why does it have to be irrational? Don't get me wrong, some of my best friends are straight men, but lets not for an instant act like straight men are a beacon of goodwill and fellowship. Even our straights stay toeing the line between good humor and bad manners. Let me not go off on another rant though.
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I don't agree with this at all. Market categories and target demographics have gone nowhere at all recently; though it's easy to assume that lines have been blurred because of the web which may have affected magazine SALES, but hasn't shifted any DEMOGRAPHICS at all with certain magazines. Fashion will always appeal to one subset, Men's Interest will always appeal to another subset, Women's Health to another, etc.
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I honestly believe that I would know. Gaga would not do the Vogue look for Maxim. Christina wouldn't do a bra and panties look for Vogue.
@botty: I'm not plainly saying that Christina's pandering to men and that she should be victimized for it, I'm just pointing out the inconsistency in how people are evaluating this. Gay men don't really respond as strongly to a woman looking demure in her underwear as they would to a woman looking sexy but strong, bold, threatening, etc. Christina's method of sexuality is the same kind of sexuality that Carmen Electra, Britney Spears and Pamela Anderson try to evoke. They're bombshells. And while they're gay icons in their own right, when they get into their skivvies and pose for MAXIM MAGAZINE they're doing it for male attention. Point blank period.
EDIT: And there's nothing wrong with that by the way. Especially for someone like Christina who's been smeared all over the media for being fat and unattractive. If she's got it, let her flaunt it. But let's call a spade a spade; it's blatant pandering to the majority base, and that's how it is.
What are you girls even arguing about?
Yes, I'd like this very much.
....... let's hope for Paparazzi 2.0
Yes, I'd like this very much.
Supermanisdead
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Disturbing. But explains a lot.
Well, when you are the "representative" in popgaf, is it any wonder why there is a general distrust, hatred and repulsion of straights?
It's a good thing you're not a representative of the gays then
Soulscribe
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Why does it have to be irrational? Don't get me wrong, some of my best friends are straight men, but lets not for an instant act like straight men are a beacon of goodwill and fellowship. Even our straights stay toeing the line between good humor and bad manners. Let me not go off on another rant though.
This ain't right boo boo. lol
Supermanisdead
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Oh I forgot you were straight, but you stan the Tales series, so it's understandable.
All I see are 1...2...3... gyals who are displaying some irrational seething in a party of maybe 20+ members of a community. You can try, but you'll have to go through all my privilege before you can make a dent.
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I live in Central Texas, it's not like I have a choice. Make no mistake though, you still have to check straights who are "sympathetic" to the cause.
Gather him. Unless you were kidding. Then, lol.
Is Tales a gay series? Surely not more than FF or KH (sorry Botye)
I think you're focusing too much on the target audience of the magazines. I'm thinking more of the effect that the internet has on the distribution of the images. Someone like Christina Aguilera does Maxim, who do you think is making the images go viral? What type of blogs are going to do posts on the images the next day -- men's blogs or gossip/celebrity blogs? Who do you think is operating the dozens of fansites and tumblr blogs that will archive and make graphics using the original images? The same people that make up the pop enthusiast/stan demographic. My point is that, thanks the the internet, this demographic has a bigger footprint than the traditional target demographic of whatever magazine we're thinking about, nor does it care about where the images came from. It's all exposure.
Supermanisdead
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Of course; Yuri and Flynn are gay idols.
Who do you think follows his twitter?
Oh true. Poor Estellise
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Rita is a violent lesbian so I am sure Estelle will get some action from her instead.
Or old man Raven.
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All I see are 1...2...3... gyals who are displaying some irrational seething in a party of maybe 20+ members of a community. You can try, but you'll have to go through all my privilege before you can make a dent.
Disturbing, but nothing we didn't already know.
I can't stop laughing at this description for some reason.
Supermanisdead
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That psycho broke my Xbox doing that
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Oh I forgot the canon pairings were Yuri/Flynn, Estelle/Rita, and Raven/Karol. ToV, her straight hatred.
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That was a joke based off of what godels said. So what do "we" really know...
"We" know that someone is "irrationally seething" at you quite often because of something you said. "We" know that your response to said seething is often times met with a flippant "/shrug" or an invite to ignore you. "We" can deduce that you don't care about being offensive, or that being offensive is part of your agenda to stir the pot, and then fall back and play innocent. You don't try to understand our point of view. Since so often jokes have a shred of truth to them, "we" assume you don't care. I patiently await your one sentence brush off.
You forgot Judith was an amoeba.
Judith was with Baul, but since she was into bestiality I suppose Repede got in on that too.
"We" know that someone is "irrationally seething" at you quite often because of something you said. "We" know that your response to said seething is often times met with a flippant "/shrug" or an invite to ignore you. "We" can deduce that you don't care about being offensive, or that being offensive is part of your agenda to stir the pot, and then fall back and play innocent. You don't try to understand our point of view. Since so often jokes have a shred of truth to them, "we" assume you don't care. I patiently await your one sentence brush off.
Well, this "we" you speak of is a very small minority in this community. I offered a solution to this problem when I suggested to zankara that he ignore me...and anyone else who needed to to do so. Surprise, surprise... I couldn't have been too offensive since I have remained unignored and continue to have discussions and share news with the poor brave souls who were so offended by me suggesting someone was "gay pandering." The sheer and utter crime of such a suggesting. But to say that I "don't care" or shrug it off is wrong since I have substantially cut down on making those remarks, and even attacked francis exclusively for his music because of all the happy meal tears that was flooding this community. My only problem with this kind of nitpicking is that this community, in general, is blatantly offensive in many ways, but the only time complaints and running to mumei is made is when it "offends me." It's totally ok to call her ugly, fat, a clown, etc due to an invisible line we all make in our heads of what is pushing it "too far." I mean... the blatant straight hate is kind of offensive. And calling straight guys "queens," "closeted," etc.. isn't exactly polite. And even if any of the straight members were gay, is it not offensive to shame them for being closeted or make those type of jokes? I don't really mind because I can take the joke and I can take the accusation and dust it off my shoulder. I would also like to know when I've played innocent cause I don't recall backing down from anything I've said, though the idea of me being malicious with my intent is hilarious.
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Oh sis I was ready to profess my love for you in the Tales thread but then you said Vesperia was your least fave. Dismissed tbh
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