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PopGAF |OT7.5| ReMix - Stanning Sarah Palin since November 2013
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She's a mediocre lyricist, whatever you think of her overall songwriting / compositional ability.
Someone had to say it. It's the same exact shit every album just rearranged differently.
The ignorance. But please continue with the hate train.
Crumpet Trumpet
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I have to agree with this. I feel like Mine, Dear John, and Last Kiss are her at her songwriting best and I was a bit disappointed that nothing on Red grabbed me like those three. Except maybe Treacherous.
Of course. While I have never been someone who listened to the radio in his leisure time, I did listen to the radio a lot once upon a time - whenever I was on the bus going to school, whenever I was driving to school, whenever I was in the car with my parents, etc.
I was listening to the radio on a very regular basis, maybe an hour or two a day, until around 2009 - and I only stopped because my car radio stopped working. I didn't get around to having my car radio fixed until 2011-ish, and the main reason I didn't start listening to my radio again is because I had gotten an iPod by that point and was listening mostly to that instead. But I've still heard a lot of recent stuff thanks to friends and PopGAF.
Actually out of that lot we discuss Gaga's growth as a songwriter fairly regularly and many of us feel she peaked with TFM so
Crumpet Trumpet
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Really? This discussion crops up all the time re: Gaga. Britney doesn't really do the whole soul-bearing confessional thing, and Rihanna's musical stylings are so different from album to album that it's hard to compare. Katy Perry is generally awful anything that isn't radio-candy.
Lol, if Gaga peaked with TFM songwriting she is truly trash in that department then. The TFM song writing is one of many things that led to Gaga's overexposure and the general public tiring of her. Every single from that era used some kind of repetition hook that was clearly uninspired and lazy (ra ra ra ra ra, te te te te, ale ale ale ale). Monster also did the same.
I'm NOT saying BTW song writing is better, because it is just full of highs and lows in itself. I don't think she grew or declined in song writing between those two albums. Also a few tracks on TFM were not written by Gaga, she was just credited for them; Telephone being one of them. This comes from my source so take what you will with it.
If anything her song writing will improve with ARTPOP given what we have heard so far. Applause, while being a lyrical mess in the second verse, is very nicely structured. And the ARTPOP song is a perfect example of growth tbh.
She's vastly improving lyrically, but not necessarily in making a standard "pop" song. If that is what we are debating here.
Speaking of lyrics, Gaga just revealed new lyrics to her future smash hit, Do What You Want (With My Body)
I'm NOT saying BTW song writing is better, because it is just full of highs and lows in itself. I don't think she grew or declined in song writing between those two albums. Also a few tracks on TFM were not written by Gaga, she was just credited for them; Telephone being one of them. This comes from my source so take what you will with it.
If anything her song writing will improve with ARTPOP given what we have heard so far. Applause, while being a lyrical mess in the second verse, is very nicely structured. And the ARTPOP song is a perfect example of growth tbh.
She's vastly improving lyrically, but not necessarily in making a standard "pop" song. If that is what we are debating here.
Speaking of lyrics, Gaga just revealed new lyrics to her future smash hit, Do What You Want (With My Body)
They've basically glossed over SoG, Holy Ground, Sad Beautiful Tragic and All Too Well. They are worlds apart from Her debut. >_>
I've overheard your theory
Nostalgia is for geeks
Well sir if you say so
Some of us just like to read
I've overheard your theory
Nostalgia is for geeks
Well sir if you say so
Some of us just like to read
It's unfair to judge growth in writing, something that can only be assessed by taking in a body of work as a whole, with one song.
I made sure not to self clock myself this time sis
but I do love that part actually, it's so fierce
I've overheard your theory
Nostalgia is for geeks
Well sir if you say so
Some of us just like to read
drag it
Maybe it's like an aggregate; the worst lyric she's ever written is counterbalanced by some great stuff...somewhere else.
How is that the worst lyric she has ever written when Hair and Bad Kids exist?
I love Hair despite the lyrics
Hair and Bad Kids never made me, nor anybody else I know, laugh because the lyrics are so bad.
Oh wait it is. Lemme go bop to BTW agaiN
I love the second verse of bad kids ;_;
I'm a bitch. Degenerate, young rebel and I'm proud of it.
Pump your fist if you would rather mess up than put up with this
Fierce tbh
Leagues better than Applause, first or second verse.
I've overheard your theory
Nostalgia is for geeks
Well sir if you say so
Some of us just like to read
It's impressive to see the same sort of insightful social commentary one can glean from her entire oeuvre represented in a single lyric.
Soulscribe
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Whatever, the verses in Applause are hardly conventional but they're not bad or sloppy. They work very well with the melody of the song and only Gaga can make lyrics as goofy as the ones in Applause sound completely effortless. Sometimes the off kilter lyrics don't work with the song (ahem, Highway Unicorn, Americano, Judas) but she mostly manages to make the lyrics fit her songs better than any conventional lyric could.
And Applause's first verse is fucking epic. I stand here wa-ai-ting fooahhh, YOU, to BANG, the, goooong
And Applause's first verse is fucking epic. I stand here wa-ai-ting fooahhh, YOU, to BANG, the, goooong
I've overheard your theory
Nostalgia is for geeks
Well sir if you say so
Some of us just like to read
It's really not as bad as you make it out to be, so you can stop now tbh
There's some pretty neat effects/coordination in the video. The song still slays me.
Edit: I've also been playing this Zedd song regularly:
Zedd - Stars Come Out
Are you kidding? I'm hard pressed to think of a worse lyric from any song in 2013. I guess some of the lyrics on Yeezus are pretty stupid ('In a French-ass restaurant, hurry up with my damn croissants!'), but at least they're making a point, and, at least I presume, are intended to be darkly funny ('We get this bitch shaking like Parkinsons').
Souldriver
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It even has that same guy. That dancer from the recent Madonna tours.
Rocket Punch
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That woman seething in the back.
Also this song has been slaying me lately:
Cash Cash - Take Me Home
Also this song has been slaying me lately:
Cash Cash - Take Me Home
Rocket Punch
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Not pups missing my sarcasm ;_;
Who is saying that the lyrics are bad because they are unconventional?
I think it is a dumb lyric because it is essentially a non sequitur response from an assertion that I'm not even sure was actually made by anyone. Who says that nostalgia is for geeks? What does reading have to do with nostalgia and how is this a rebuttal? If someone said, "I think nostalgia is for geeks," do you think, "Some of us just like to read!" would be an intelligent response?
And yes, ARTPOP, the lyric really is that bad.
Can someone confirm if this works outside the anUS.
I need to be ready when I get back home.
Matt_
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It didn't for me and someone in ha thread said it didn't work for Canada either
THANK YOU
Souldriver
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It works in Belgium.
I'm surprised actually, because normally anyting Viacom related gets blocked for me.
botty and her multiple last.fm accounts.
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