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Well, aside from the more "desperate pandering" elements of the video, I DO like it.
I can just see why an early-ARTPOP Gaga might have been concerned about releasing it. This video looks like it really would have crashed ARTPOP. She never should have worked with R-Piss in the first place, tbh.
Then again, considering that she would get vomited on a mere months later and confess to not showering for days at a time, maybe her collab with Pee-Smelly will go down as her most sanitary moment this era.
More Government Hookers tbh but that's impossible because DJWS is a terrible producer these days and lost all credible potential he may have once had during the Born This Way days. Sigh. I'd be down for some more Garibay collaborations a la Dance in the Dark and Heavy Metal Lover.
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I want a completely new direction. ARTPOP's music really felt like it was written by someone who writes too much. The themes are mishy mashy and lack punch or purpose, and though I think it's an excellent pop album in general, it's weak as a Gaga album because so much of it feels redundant. Why would someone who's so exposed to the world of fashion and its inner workings write such basic bitch songs about it all? How much longer can you talk about pop culture, or being a pop star, or loving sex? I'm hoping ARTPOP is the outro to the first chapter of Gaga's career, because it really holds elements of all the motifs she loves and uses, and the "ARTPOP" name I guess accurately describes her intent up to this point. But now I want chapter 2. Use third person pronouns for once. Release a music video that doesn't have you in front of the camera. Make fashion statements in more minimalist ways. There are so many directions she can go with and none of them would affect her artistic integrity. I believe in her ability to evolve but I think now's the time for her to do it. Everything she's done with ARTPOP she's done before and people are aware of it.
JazzGa's a great first step.
JazzGa's a great first step.
Mau ®;117323474 said:
...but it's the iconic singles that make The Fame better than ARTPOP.
I LOVE ARTPOP, but even I'll admit that it's not as iconic as The Fame.
You fucking Little Monsters and Little Monster Adjacents need to just accept the tea: The Fame is Gaga's best work. NEVER was she more on-pulse, more provocative, more alluring, more played, more iconic, more IN CHARGE, than she was during The Fame/Fame Monster eras. She reigned as Queen Bitch during those eras.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
Born This Way > The Fame Monster > Artpop >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Fame
tbh
tbh
You Know Nothing
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Soulscribe
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Essentially. It's gonna take a BEYONCE-caliber body of work to knock Born This Way off the top *.*
Soulscribe
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Gaga's too far up her ass to change. Sorry bout it.
Did you not listen to Ultraviolence sis?
Too bad for you delusional then that all ARTPOP is is Gaga desperately trying to remember The Fame's recipe.
1st Single: Just Dance
2nd Single: Poker Face
3rd Single: LoveGame
4th Single: Papa-FUCKING-razzi
There has never been a more flawless lineup.
Honorable-FUCKING-mentions:
Summer Boy
Eh Eh (Nothing Else I Can Say)
The Fame
Boys Boys Boys
Shitting on The Fame just because you want Lady Gaga to be just as popular with her new albums (but she's NOT) is just something I refuse to tolerate anymore. Lady Gaga dewigged every bitch in the building with The Fame. Lady Gaga kept every dance floor packed with The Fame. Lady Gaga kept cocks in the mouth of every bottom with The Fame. and you hoes will kiss the ring and show some goddamn respect.
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Not cocks in the mouth of every bottom...
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Booty Patrol
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the fame as an alber is weak as fuk
the era slayed, though
the era slayed, though
I don't give a fuck about strong or weak albums.
Giving a shit about strong albums is how we ended up with that dry-as-fuck Ultraviolence. I count the mere days it's going to take for you hoes to hop off that bandwagon. The album is shit.
I care about good MUSIC.
The Fame is Lady Gaga's strongest collection of SONGS. Period. Point Blank.
Professor Beef
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Roy just might be my new favorite poster in general, let alone favorite POPGAF poster, with that tea.
Roy is the most iconic POPGaffer tbh.
I didn't see it for that era/album at the time and I still don't but Paparazzi's power cannot be denied. I don't compare her impact back then to now because I don't think it's something she could pull off again. She came along at the right time and brought something to the table that pop music needed.
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Niece...
When I say the alber is shit, I mean every damn song besides the singles is shit. I don't salivate over cohesive albers. They can be nice, but it's not a must for me when it comes to one.
Even when looked at as a collection of SONGS, The Fame is gutter TRASH. It sucked when it originally came out. It still sucks now.
Gulp the tea and deal.
Niece...
When I say the alber is shit, I mean every damn song besides the singles is shit. I don't salivate over cohesive albers. They can be nice, but it's not a must for me when it comes to one.
Even when looked at as a collection of SONGS, The Fame is gutter TRASH. It sucked when it originally came out. It still sucks now.
Gulp the tea and deal.
The Fame spawned 5 reasonably successful singles. 3 of those singles were true, undeniable HITS.
Even if you discount the rest of the album (which is utter delusion, but whatev I expect that from Monsters these days), that's enough for The Fame for shit all over every other Gaga album. And LETS NOT EVEN GET INTO THE POP MAMMOTH KNOWN AS "BAD ROMANCE" THAT WOULD COME LATER TO PISS ALL OVER GRAVES.
The Fame (and The Fame Monster) are the only albums Gaga created with any inkling of what the public actually wanted to hear.
And if it weren't for those two albums Gaga wouldn't even HAVE a fanbase. But keep writing early Gaga off. I see it for what it is: anger, hate and jealousy over the fact that nobody gives a single stiff shit about Gaga now.
Booty Patrol
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Niece...
When I say the alber is shit, I mean every damn song besides the singles is shit. I don't salivate over cohesive albers. They can be nice, but it's not a must for me when it comes to one.
Even when looked at as a collection of SONGS, The Fame is gutter TRASH. It sucked when it originally came out. It still sucks now.
Gulp the tea and deal.
Lmao these are my exact thoughts. I was typing a reply that said exactly this.
Supermanisdead
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like, if you aren't going to stan for fame/monster era, what the hell is the point of stanning gaga.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Niece...
When I say the alber is shit, I mean every damn song besides the singles is shit. I don't salivate over cohesive albers. They can be nice, but it's not a must for me when it comes to one.
Even when looked at as a collection of SONGS, The Fame is gutter TRASH. It sucked when it originally came out. It still sucks now.
Gulp the tea and deal.
Dearest clone,
I have no idea what you're talking about. The Fame and The Fame Monster, are, without a doubt, her two best collections of songs. I don't mean the albums as a whole. Her songs from that era were perfect. Hell, everything about that era was amazing; it's what defined her as an artist. And, let's be honest. It continues to define her for this very day. She's not remembered for her BTW work (aside from the title track and maybe Judas). She's remembered for Paparazzi. For Alejandro. For Poker Face and Love Game.
Why? Because not only was the era as a whole iconic, but the songs deserve this recognition. Individually, her work from this era is on point and will probably be the best thing she ever does (unless JazzGa actually happens, but I'll hold my breath).
Love,
Me
The Fame is such a trash album. I think I rank it just as bad as ARTPOP. Of course ARTPOP leaves a worse taste in people's mouths because of her tryhardness and ego / the subject matter, but I wouldn't say it is a worse album than The Fame. It's easy to let one's perspective of the artist get in the way of their opinion of the actual music, which is why TF and TFM will always be overrated, and BTW will remain her unrecognized magnum opus.
Also this argument that hits = quality, will never ever be true.
Also this argument that hits = quality, will never ever be true.
Why did you become ha stan tho? You only seem to like BTW :rip:
Thank God then that The Fame and The Fame Monster have quality hits.
Honestly, it just comes off as desperation. What's really going on is that Monsters don't want to accept the fact that Gaga fell off. So they concoct a warped reality in which Gaga's true defining albums were "actually" trash while her recent albums actually represent Gaga at her "greatest." It's all to protect their profound delusion that Gaga never stopped being great, peddling this belief that she's ONLY great now.
But true lovers of music see through it.
I see you girls trying to lump The Fame Monster in with The Fame to lend some credibility to her shoddy debut.
The Fame alone shits on anything Gaga is capable of today.
I lump in The Fame Monster because Gaga was still "Gaga" then. Gaga didn't skydive into her own stank cunt until the end of The Fame Monster era.
I became a fan when I saw the Bad Romance video. I always used Gaga for her visuals, which is why she stood out to me. I was never totally into her music (TFM) because I kind of disregarded it as simple pop (I didn't listen to pop music at the time). I didn't become a 'stan' until BTW was released, in which I fully accepted Gaga and fell in love with the album.
I don't hate her earlier music, I have just come to love the more experimental and different side of Gaga much more. So yes, naturally I have given up on Gaga because ARTPOP is a trash album with no identity, trying to be something more than basic pop music when it isn't even good at that either.
Professor Beef
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It's like people are bitter that TF/TFM skyrocketed her to stardom, and her "edgy"/"artistic" albums barely get recognized. What in the world. Who gives a shit about art in music, I just want good music in general. And TF/TFM delivers that in fucking spades.
I'm not bitter about it at all. Of course TF/TFM have her best quality singles. I won't even deny that. But when it comes to a cohesive album, BTW isn't beat.
Professor Beef
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BTW wasn't shit. I'd say it was as good as TFM, but certainly not better. The length of BTW hurts it more than anything.
Blood Diamonds
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She peaked with Mary Jane Holland
Gaga's floppage, its power.
Supermanisdead
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because the monster influence is far reaching. they will never accept defeat.
Ready for a new pop behemoth to emerge. Is it Charli?
It could have been Lana, but she sure skull-fucked that chance.
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