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POPGAF |OT9| Too much shade can burn you...

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Who wrote that though? Probably a Prince fan.

I guess that gif inferred shade. Oop. I legit like Telephone.
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Not you coming for gags when your fav hasn't been relevant for decades.

Have fun watching prince at your local casino or cultural centre.
Not quite a decade boo, he slayed the 2007 Superbowl... Solo... In the rain... While performing Purple Rain... My fave is anointed by Jesus herself.
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Right?!
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prince hasn't been relevant for decades and yet he can still fill an arena to capacity for 21 dates in a row

meanwhile gags is 3 albers in and she already struggles to fill arenas

poor dat
I mean....
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royalan

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that new nicole scherzinger song

i got four seconds into the vocal before i clicked the link to your love

boy your love makes me feel like

I've actually come to legit stan Your Love. It's a great little Summer somethin.

But god, does Nicole have AWFUL taste in the music she makes for herself.
 

royalan

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My dislike for Jessie dramatically decreased after that performance
She legit slayed. That voice, that dress, those legs.A step in the right direction

Yeah, she actually impressed me the most out of everyone that night, vocally.

And that ain't even undercover Bey-shade. Jessie legit hit that top note in the bridge and made it look effortless. Hit every fucking run. Sounded exactly like the studio recording and didn't even look bothered.

Her vocals get seriously slept on.
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
matt

i have a kate bush setlist spoiler for you, about something you asked a while back

she plays the jig of life
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
Where is Matt

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Meet and Greet tickets are 10% the cost of Gaga's

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You're going right? I totally would
Although hew would want a meet and greet with Aqua.

matt

i have a kate bush setlist spoiler for you, about something you asked a while back

she plays the jig of life

YASSSSSSS gonna get my life to this
Apparently she doesn't play wuthering heights? Quite an odd decision

I also read in the paper today about some super fan that came over from thailand without a ticket but managed to wait outside the event and get one for £50. Like wtf
Tickets are going for up to £1500 too. Let me sell out my own mother
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
a mess if rihanna tries to BEYONCÉ

and after all that fuming guff about rih having clocked bey, being the new queen

though at least it will lay to rest all of those 'people only think BEYONCÉ is good because of the surprise' delusions
 
a mess if rihanna tries to BEYONCÉ

and after all that fuming guff about rih having clocked bey, being the new queen

though at least it will lay to rest all of those 'people only think BEYONCÉ is good because of the surprise' delusions

Makes sense, Rihanna is such a derivative act already. The singles-oriented version of Beyonce
 

twobear

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Makes sense, Rihanna is such a derivative act already. The singles-oriented version of Beyonce

bye this is also patently false and is exactly what makes the comparisons dumb

what has beyonce made that sounds an ounce like we found love? only girl (in the world)?
 

Mau ®

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Rihanna and Beyoncé are completely different from each other at this point in matters sonically, style-wise and performance-style. The only reason people compare them is because they're both black.

Ya'll know it's true.
 
bye this is also patently false and is exactly what makes the comparisons dumb

what has beyonce made that sounds an ounce like we found love? only girl (in the world)?

I'm not saying her songs emulate hers, but the market she's trying to capture is essentially the same. If Beyonce cared as much about selling songs as units and not so much about making an entire album sound similar, then We Found Love and Only Girl are do-able for her (songs like Sweet Dreams are a good showcase for this). In fact, you can blame a great deal of Rihanna's singles success on Beyonce being WAY too particular with the song choices on her album (i.e. not nabbing songs like WFL) because before Rih, Beyonce was THE defacto R&B act that songwriters went to. After Sasha she became way too R&B picky and Rihanna became the next best choice because at least she was open to new sounds and markets. Now Rihanna's the big get for songwriters and producers while Beyonce is off recruiting on her own. lol
 

B-Dex

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Mau ®;127305773 said:
Rihanna and Beyoncé are completely different from each other at this point in matters sonically, style-wise and performance-style. The only reason people compare them is because they're both black.

Ya'll know it's true.

Mau pls. We all know everyone compares them cause Rih got J b4 Bey.
 

Mau ®

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I'm not saying her songs emulate hers, but the market she's trying to capture is essentially the same. If Beyonce cared as much about selling songs as units and not so much about making an entire album sound similar, then We Found Love and Only Girl are do-able for her (songs like Sweet Dreams are a good showcase for this). In fact, you can blame a great deal of Rihanna's singles success on Beyonce being WAY too particular with the song choices on her album because before Rih, Beyonce was THE defacto R&B act that songwriters went to. After Sasha she became way too R&B picky and Rihanna became the next best choice because at least she was open to new sounds and markets. Now Rihanna's the big get for songwriters and producers while Beyonce is off recruiting on her own. lol

But Rih has been far more pop-driven than Bey since the start. Bey has always followed a very particular sonic-line while Rihanna has done a great variety of styles.

You once said the success of one does not affect the other, and viceversa.And I think it's true tbh.
 

twobear

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I'm not saying her songs emulate hers, but the market she's trying to capture is essentially the same. If Beyonce cared as much about selling songs as units and not so much about making an entire album sound similar, then We Found Love and Only Girl are do-able for her (songs like Sweet Dreams are a good showcase for this). In fact, you can blame a great deal of Rihanna's singles success on Beyonce being WAY too particular with the song choices on her album (i.e. not nabbing songs like WFL) because before Rih, Beyonce was THE defacto R&B act that songwriters went to. After Sasha she became way too R&B picky and Rihanna became the next best choice because at least she was open to new sounds and markets. Now Rihanna's the big get for songwriters and producers while Beyonce is off recruiting on her own. lol

I disagree; what you basically are saying is that Beyoncé wanted to sound like Rihanna she could. But isn't that just true of most pop stars? If Gaga wanted to sound like Katy Perry, she could. If Katy Perry wanted to sound like Rihanna, she could.

The fact is that if, at any point, they did sound similar (and I'm not sure they ever really did), they don't sound alike now.
 
I disagree; what you basically are saying is that Beyoncé wanted to sound like Rihanna she could. But isn't that just true of most pop stars? If Gaga wanted to sound like Katy Perry, she could. If Katy Perry wanted to sound like Rihanna, she could.

The fact is that if, at any point, they did sound similar (and I'm not sure they ever really did), they don't sound alike now.

Mau ®;127306625 said:
But Rih has been far more pop-driven than Bey since the start. Bey has always followed a very particular sonic-line while Rihanna has done a great variety of styles.

You once said the success of one does not affect the other, and viceversa.And I think it's true tbh.

I disagree with the statement that Rihanna was always more pop driven. She started out essentially being a Beyonce clone with R&B ballads and dancehall anthems. She had a reggae twinge that was actually popularized in part by Beyonce with Dangerously In Love, though Rihanna naturally does that better. Rihanna starting evolving into pop styles around 2008, which was right at the tail end of Beyonce releasing a very pop-adjacent album which would be her last. Since then Beyonce's stuck to more specific R&B sounds while Rihanna became more open to new venues as pop songwriters and producers had her as an interested buyer. The timeline supports what I said. I don't think Rihanna's success affected Beyonce because I think their musical timelines are complementary, and their business is oriented toward different things (Bey focuses on albums for fans and heavy touring, Rihanna focuses on singles and exposure). What I'm saying is that Rihanna earned a great deal of success and cross-over appeal the moment Beyonce opted out and decided to do her own thing. It doesn't come off as a coincidence to me but even then, it doesn't change the fact that yes, Rihanna's music now sounds different than it did when she started, and it sounds different from most of Beyonce's material, even though you can draw many similarities between BEYONCE/4 and Unapologetic/TTT musically.
 

Mau ®

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kiiii at everyone thinking "Chandelier" was a Rihanna song in this thread

Rihanna starting evolving into pop styles around 2008, which was right at the tail end of Beyonce releasing a very pop-adjacent album which would be her last.

But S.O.S. came out in February 2006....

And Good Girl Gone Bad was summer 2007. Rihanna was pop 2 years before Sasha.
 
Mau ®;127308233 said:
kiiii at everyone thinking "Chandelier" was a Rihanna song in this thread



But S.O.S. came out in February 2006....

And Good Girl Gone Bad was summer 2007. Rihanna was pop 2 years before Sasha.

S.O.S is one pop song (Beyonce had a couple of pop-centric songs on B'Day anyway) and GGGB is essentially an R&B album. I said 2008 because of the GGGB Reloaded EP, which had Disturbia and Rehab, two quintessentially pop songs. The success she had with Disturbia was the tipping point, and that to me is when she started committing to new genres.
 

Mau ®

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S.O.S is one pop song (Beyonce had a couple of pop-centric songs on B'Day anyway) and GGGB is essentially an R&B album. I said 2008 because of the GGGB Reloaded EP, which had Disturbia and Rehab, two quintessentially pop songs. The success she had with Disturbia was the tipping point, and that to me is when she started committing to new genres.

I disagree

S.O.S and Unfaithful were pop singles in early 2006. Umbrella was pop and got traction on urban because of the Jay feature. Not to mention songs like "Shut Up and Drive" and "Don't Stop the Music" are pop singles through and through.

GGGB is more of a pop record than an R&B one IMO.
 
Mau ®;127310234 said:
I disagree

S.O.S and Unfaithful were pop singles in early 2006. Umbrella was pop and got traction on urban because of the Jay feature. Not to mention songs like "Shut Up and Drive" and "Don't Stop the Music" are pop singles through and through.

GGGB is more of a pop record than an R&B one IMO.

Haha I totally disagree, but I guess it doesn't matter because GGGB is flawless to me.
 
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