Potential issue with steam machine

Install a bigger SSD and make an extra partition with Windows 11.

Honestly, if I bought a PC/Handheld with ProtonOS I wouldn't bother installing Windows on it

If you gotta do all that why not just get a regular prebuilt and use Steam Big Picture mode like everyone else when you want to navigate the UI with a controller.
 
Anticheats is one of the only things that the devs have to explicitly support for linux (for EAC it's a single switch to turn). If Steam Machines gain enough popularity this wont be a problem anymore.
 
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  • Destiny 2 <--- does anyone actually play this still?
  • Valorant (Blocked due to the proprietary Vanguard anti-cheat) <--- only played by female streamers.
  • Fortnite (Epic Games has not enabled EAC support for Linux) <---- Played by Roblox player.
  • Call of Duty (Modern Titles) (Blocked by the kernel-level RICOCHET anti-cheat) <-- console game, unless you need to hack you play on pc
  • Apex Legends <--- dead game
  • Battlefield 2042/ 6 (Blocked by EA's custom anti-cheat) <---2042 is trash and dead but 6 is great
  • Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege <---- woke trash
  • PUBG: Battlegrounds <--- been dead for years
 
It's an issue with the Steam Deck as well and people still got those.

Either way, people who usually play those games already have something to play them on, i don't think Valve is aiming to replace PCs or Consoles here.
 
Well you can't upgrade the GPU on the Steam Machine, which is the most common and important upgrade in a PC to play PC games of all, so if 8GB Vram isn't good enough for the future, what's the point of this Steam Machine in the long run.
 
Well you can't upgrade the GPU on the Steam Machine, which is the most common and important upgrade in a PC to play PC games of all, so if 8GB Vram isn't good enough for the future, what's the point of this Steam Machine in the long run.

the problem here is that any prebuilt you see on a site like best buy that has a gpu with more than 8 gigs of vram is usually closer to $2k if not above. The insane gpu prices have actually put pc gaming back a few years as there was time where all the prebuilts had decent gpus.
 
First, let me express that I don't play games like this:
  • Grand Theft Auto V Online (Blocked due to BattlEye not enabled for Proton)
  • Destiny 2
  • Valorant (Blocked due to the proprietary Vanguard anti-cheat)
  • Fortnite (Epic Games has not enabled EAC support for Linux)
  • Call of Duty (Modern Titles) (Blocked by the kernel-level RICOCHET anti-cheat)
  • Apex Legends
  • Battlefield 2042/ 6 (Blocked by EA's custom anti-cheat)
  • Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege
  • PUBG: Battlegrounds
So the answer to the OP is I don't give a shit and the Gabecube isn't my main platform anyway, just for small PC exclusives. I'm a PS6 man.
Well you can't upgrade the GPU on the Steam Machine, which is the most common and important upgrade in a PC to play PC games of all, so if 8GB Vram isn't good enough for the future, what's the point of this Steam Machine in the long run.
First I'll answer your question. Convenience and support. Prebuilt will be plug and play and Gabecube will likely have Gabecube verified games like Steamdeck. Now I will rant.

This is a low end/mid level PC, a my first PC. It isn't futureproof and furthermore I just built a PC yesterday for a buddy. Wanna see current PC prices for a non-future proofed build?

You want future proofing and modularity from what is likely a 399-499 prebuilt in a bespoke mini enclosure and I just don't know what to tell you.

None of this works like that. The point of the steam machine is it is probably the cost of half a decent video card for your real PC and because of the low cost you can just buy an upgraded one in a few years instead of upgrading the one you already have. Like a console and most also perhaps like an Xbox-PC. Do you understand what a decent gaming PC costs vs what this whole system will cost? It's priced to sell and requires no assembly. You want it future proofed at 500 bucks? That's impossible bro.
 
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the problem here is that any prebuilt you see on a site like best buy that has a gpu with more than 8 gigs of vram is usually closer to $2k if not above. The insane gpu prices have actually put pc gaming back a few years as there was time where all the prebuilts had decent gpus.
Yeah, i couldn't agree more, i've had to pay far too much for my last 2 gpu's, but if the Steam Machine is the future then the games arn't going to get any better than what we have now.
 
First, let me express that I don't play games like this:
  • Grand Theft Auto V Online (Blocked due to BattlEye not enabled for Proton)
  • Destiny 2
  • Valorant (Blocked due to the proprietary Vanguard anti-cheat)
  • Fortnite (Epic Games has not enabled EAC support for Linux)
  • Call of Duty (Modern Titles) (Blocked by the kernel-level RICOCHET anti-cheat)
  • Apex Legends
  • Battlefield 2042/ 6 (Blocked by EA's custom anti-cheat)
  • Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege
  • PUBG: Battlegrounds
So the answer to the OP is I don't give a shit and the Gabecube isn't my main platform anyway, just for small PC exclusives. I'm a PS6 man.

First I'll answer your question. Convenience and support. Prebuilt will be plug and play and Gabecube will likely have Gabecube verified games like Steamdeck. Now I will rant.

This is a low end/mid level PC, a my first PC. It isn't futureproof and furthermore I just built a PC yesterday for a buddy. Wanna see current PC prices for a non-future proofed build?

You want future proofing and modularity from what is likely a 399-499 prebuilt in a bespoke mini enclosure and I just don't know what to tell you.

None of this works like that. The point of the steam machine is it is probably the cost of half a decent video card for your real PC and because of the low cost you can just buy an upgraded one in a few years instead of upgrading the one you already have. Like a console and most also perhaps like an Xbox-PC. Do you understand what a decent gaming PC costs vs what this whole system will cost? It's priced to sell and requires no assembly. You want it future proofed at 500 bucks? That's impossible bro.
Yeah i do what a new PC costs, i've just bought one, i'm replying to the OP concerns in his post about 8gb Vram and future proofing and i agree you can't future proof with this hybrid machine, it will be interesting to see how much it sells and what price Valve charges, It's a sort of console to me not a PC and i wouldn't buy one, but each to their own.
 
Why do you worry?

Gabecube will be a small little machine that won't be in stores or Amazon or have marketing outside Steam, it will sell on demand for a handful of million users who want it because want another steam enabled device with console form factor and plug and play like, and some entry level users.

It's important for those that they know they are not being able to play those, but it's not a success or failure thing, this will be a niche machine.
 
I have a steam deck with over a 100 non-steam games, from abandonware to lost to time titles. The last thing I care about is the fact I cant play COD or Fortnite on it. Most of those players are on consoles anyway. People look at this as some console but just like the SD, you have a desktop mode, you can install whatever you want, from different OS to Photoshop or use the SD for coding. You can mod your games, apply community server patches for dead games that now have a live community again etc. People really need to stop thinking SteamOS is just some UI that can run only your Steam game library. If you want to tinker with it, you have the choice and Im talking about basic stuff, you dont need to be a rocket scientist to get another OS running or to pirate or find an abandonware game. This is basic PC shit 101. I highly doubt a console player will jump onto the Steam Machine when they dont even have a steam library yet. COD and Fortnite wont sell this system.

Dont get me even started with Emudeck and having an entire collection of games at your fingertips from PS3/360, backwards.
 
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  • Destiny 2 <--- does anyone actually play this still?
  • Valorant (Blocked due to the proprietary Vanguard anti-cheat) <--- only played by female streamers.
  • Fortnite (Epic Games has not enabled EAC support for Linux) <---- Played by Roblox player.
  • Call of Duty (Modern Titles) (Blocked by the kernel-level RICOCHET anti-cheat) <-- console game, unless you need to hack you play on pc
  • Apex Legends <--- dead game
  • Battlefield 2042/ 6 (Blocked by EA's custom anti-cheat) <---2042 is trash and dead but 6 is great
  • Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege <---- woke trash
  • PUBG: Battlegrounds <--- been dead for years
Spotted the dude who has no fucking clue what he's talking about.
 
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It is what it is. Personally I'd love for GabeCube to take off so that Nvidia and Multiplayer games couldn't afford not to support SteamOS/Linux.

But as always, the market decides. 🎲
 
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