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[Makai]

Fairly heinous responses here. It doesn't matter what his sign said. You guys are really scaring me with this Old Testament value system.

 

[Hierophant]

She deserves to be punished to the fullest extent of the law for what she did. We can't selectively apply the law because we don't like people's opinions.

These threads make me worry. You shouldn't be cool with assault because someone says something you don't like, even if it's truly vile shit.

Guy was an asshole, but he didn't deserve to be brained by a coward.

If wishing rape on someone else is an opinion we've gone down a real dark path haven't we

Especially since I bet these words don't threaten you at all, to people these words to threaten, I completely understand the willingness and urge to use violence

 

[Realyn]

It's easy to not get a bat swung at your head though, don't hold up a sign and loudly proclaim women deserve to be raped

Yeah what a shame that the guy lives in a country where laws protect the shit he's doing. But hey, let's selectively apply the law as we please.

 

[Zantetsuken]

Ahh, dregs of humanity my old friend. We meet again. Form of: preacher.

 

[MUnited83]

Lol at the moron(s) saying that it's a shame she was arrested. I hope you too get a bat swung at your head. Be it for a morally right reason or not.

He was advocating and threatening rape. Hitting him with a bat is basically self defense.

Yeah what a shame that the guy lives in a country where laws protect the shit he's doing. But hey, let's selectively apply the law as we please.

Harassment and rape threats are legal?

 

[akira28]

Fairly heinous responses here. It doesn't matter what his sign said. You guys are really scaring me with this Old Testament value system.

its time to be scared. when the lambs start sharpening their hooves.

 

[Night Angel]

"You deserve to be raped" is not an opinion. It's a threat.

No it isn't. It's a shitty opinion.

"I will rape you" is a threat. And as far as I'm aware, undirected written "threats" on signs aren't legal (or moral) justifications for assault.

 

[Messofanego]

She deserves to be punished to the fullest extent of the law for what she did. We can't selectively apply the law because we don't like people's opinions.

These threads make me worry. You shouldn't be cool with assault because someone says something you don't like, even if it's truly vile shit.

Guy was an asshole, but he didn't deserve to be brained by a coward.

Hmm yes someone advocating for sexual violence is just another political opinion on the spectrum, of course.

Do you devil's advocates think you're being slick?

 

[Osukaa]

Man, the fuck what? Even the sign is enough to want to see this guy get lopped upside the head, but all that shit he was spewing. I'd celebrate, too.

Should have hit his ass another time for good measure to. Fuck him 0 sympathy from me.
Poor girl hope she can get that expunged on account of the asshole deserving it.

 

[NorthAndSouth]

you don't get let off the hook for assault just because the person you assaulted is a twat...
what a dangerous and primitive precedent to champion

It's not that deep, this is just another "is it okay to punch a Nazi?" situation.

Dude is being far more than just an asshole, in another country where hate speech is criminalized he would be facing charges for his aggressive goading of teens. Of course you don't want to be assaulting people left, right and centre just for disagreeing with your views, no one is arguing for that. While the law may stand here that this is assault, that doesn't change that most of us people who are decent and do not endorse HATE SPEECH would have wanted to do the same and/ or feel happy that this piece of crap got what he deserved.

Having sympathy for why someone has done something perhaps legally wrong isn't necessarily "dangerous or primitive" it's how change is enacted within society. Ideally this dude should have been arrested long before teens felt the need to confront him themselves.

 

[Fulminator]

Guy is an asshole but the person who hit him with a bat deserves the felony charge as well

Yeah I really have to agree with this

The guy is a shit stain for sure, but I have a really hard time believing potentially deadly assault with a weapon is justified for yelling things and holding a sign, even if it's abhorrent

I dunno, maybe I'm off my rocker here

 

[GoldenEye 007]

Yeah what a shame that the guy lives in a country where laws protect the shit he's doing. But hey, let's selectively apply the law as we please.

Our country was founded on selectively applying the law.

 

[CrocMother]

Fairly heinous responses here. It doesn't matter what his sign said. You guys are really scaring me with this Old Testament value system.

It feels like people on this board are just waiting for a civil war so they can justify their violent desires with their liberal belief system.

 

[Night Angel]

Hmm yes someone advocating for sexual violence is just another political opinion on the spectrum, of course.

Do you devil's advocates think you're being slick?

It's my genuine opinion. I'm not being slick, I'm imagining a world where people can justify violence because they don't like what someone says. It's a dangerous thing.

I'm not legitimizing his opinion, I'm not condoning it (if you read my post you'd see I think it's vile), but I don't think the response he got was warranted. Do you think you're slick for your opinion?

Our country was founded on selectively applying the law.

OMG so deep.

 

[akira28]

I'm a judge. He gets a week in jail. She gets community service.

bang bang the gavel. lets all go to the cafeteria.

 

[Gleethor]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

 

[Hierophant]

Fairly heinous responses here. It doesn't matter what his sign said. You guys are really scaring me with this Old Testament value system.

If someone came up to you and to your face told you that your mother/wife/girlfriend/sister deserved to be raped, you wouldn't feel anything? Would you keep this veneer of "I'm too enlightened to feel any anger or emotion"?

 

[F0rneus]

Hmm yes someone advocating for sexual violence is just another political opinion on the spectrum, of course.

Do you devil's advocates think you're being slick?

There's a defense force for everything on GAF.

 

[Messofanego]

so I see the words "street preacher" and I'm thinking "mental health patient" that is on the street due to the wonders of the US system. Adding a baseball bat to that is not a good idea of dealing with that, at all.

I'm glad you're coming up with hypothetical reasons based on zero evidence to make the street preacher seem more innocent and not fully there in terms of mental capacity so he can be absolved of responsibility. Now it's on others to treat this hypothetically mentally insufficient individual. Interesting statement you're coming with.

 

[Skyzard]

Why is hate speech allowed outside a school?

 

[afternoon delight]

To be fair, the preacher was asking for it

I mean, look what he was holding

 

[Breads]

She deserves to be punished to the fullest extent of the law for what she did. We can't selectively apply the law because we don't like people's opinions.

These threads make me worry. You shouldn't be cool with assault because someone says something you don't like, even if it's truly vile shit.

Guy was an asshole, but he didn't deserve to be brained by a coward.

What is this we shit. You're selectively choosing fullest extent of the law. There are minimums and even then not all minimums are mandatory. They are at the discretion of judges.

She should get what is lawfully required for her to get. No more. No less.

If it means nothing I'm cool with that.

If that makes you worry then it should. Don't hold signs up saying kids should get raped. People are going to protect their community and the law can only so much to preemptively protect you from your own stupidity.

 

[Jarrod38]

There's a defense force for everything on GAF.

Yep don't we have one for pedophiles?

 

[Fulminator]

If someone came up to you and to your face told you that your mother/wife/girlfriend/sister deserved to be raped, you wouldn't feel anything? Would you keep this veneer of "I'm too enlightened to feel any anger or emotion"?

I definitely would not feel the need to hit them over the head with a bat.

Probably a punch to the face or gut, but a weapon is too far.

 

[akira28]

I'm glad you're coming up with hypothetical reasons based on zero evidence to make the street preacher seem more innocent and not fully there in terms of mental capacity so he can be absolved of responsibility. Now it's on others to treat this hypothetically mentally insufficient individual. Interesting statement you're coming with.

he doesn't realize that in america, street preachers can create go fundmes and start nationwide hate movements, like the GodhatesFags.com people. street preachers over here aren't just manic mental patients, they run money making ministries and get involved in politics and media.

 

[Escape Goat]

Yep don't we have one for pedophiles?

If pedophiles are included in "everything" I'd say yes.

 

[Hierophant]

I'm glad you're coming up with hypothetical reasons based on zero evidence to make the street preacher seem more innocent and not fully there in terms of mental capacity so he can be absolved of responsibility. Now it's on others to treat this hypothetically mentally insufficient individual. Interesting statement you're coming with.

i mean he's white and did something bad, of course theres something mentally wrong and he wasn't conscious of his own actions

 

[F0rneus]

Yep don't we have one for pedophiles?

Everything.

 

[foxuzamaki]

Surely you heard the loud "ding" and hen huge applause?




Good

What ding? I didnt hear a ding

 

[AoM]

She's posting on Facebook. Not sure whether she served time or not.

 

[Night Angel]

What is this we shit. You're selectively choosing fullest extent of the law. There are minimums and even then not all minimums are mandatory. They are at the discretion of judges.

She should get what is lawfully required for her to get. No more. No less.

If it means nothing I'm cool with that.

If that makes you worry then it should. Don't hold signs up saying kids should get raped. People are going to protect their community and the law can only so much the law can pre-preemptively protect you from your own stupidity.

I guess I wasn't clear. I'm not calling for a maximum sentence, but I'm certainly against letting her off because the guy was a dick. Give her the standard punishment for assault with a weapon. She doesn't deserve any leniency because the man said bad things.

 

[Messofanego]

It's my genuine opinion. I'm not being slick, I'm imagining a world where people can justify violence because they don't like what someone says. It's a dangerous thing.

I'm not legitimizing his opinion, I'm not condoning it (if you read my post you'd see I think it's vile), but I don't think the response he got was warranted. Do you think you're slick for your opinion?

OMG so deep.

You're infantilising what damage his sign says by reducing the condoning of violence to be just an opinion. There's free speech and then hate speech which goes against that and advocating for violence that betrays others' human rights. When you cross the line like with this sign, it stops becoming merely an opinion like you're suggesting.

 

[akira28]

What ding? I didnt hear a ding

I heard a pop that took me straight back to kiddie pitch baseball, lol. *ping*

that's a single.

 

[Goose_Se7en]

He was advocating and threatening rape. Hitting him with a bat is basically self defense.

Hmm yes someone advocating for sexual violence is just another political opinion on the spectrum, of course.

Do you devil's advocates think you're being slick?

Just 2 examples of what is wrong with you folks on the far left. Always willing to go the extreme. No compromise, no rule of law, or rather selective application of the rule of law. The far left and far right are mirror images of each other. Shameful really. So sad!

The part I bolded is so rich, I love it when we have armchair lawyers in here. Basically self defense. Hahahaha. I'm not saying this dude didn't deserve it, even I know what he said was unacceptable and stupid. No one can condone the rape of women and personally good on her for swinging for the fences but no one is above the law.

After this election, the far left just reminds me of the far right. Off their rockers for sure.

 

[WrenchNinja]

That sound as the bat hits him, just wow. She got arrested but I hope her life wasn't totally ruined by doing this to that asshole.

 

[Puruzi]

dude's a cunt but a bat to the head could've killed him

bit extreme imo but he got too ballsy and she wasn't having it lmao

 

[F0rneus]

You can tell the same people who say "Boohoo the psycho bigot got a bat hit, punish the evil doer woman, because the law and everything and violence is not the answer" are the same motherfuckers who say "Black Lives Matter shouldn't riot, it's hurting the innocent and all that"

 

[Fulminator]

You're infantilising what damage his sign says by reducing the condoning of violence to be just an opinion. There's free speech and then hate speech which goes against that and advocating for violence that betrays others' human rights. When you cross the line like with this sign, it stops becoming merely an opinion like you're suggesting.

I mean hate speech is protected under the 1st amendment like it or not, unless a clear or immediate threat is evident

Is that sign an example of such a threat? It could be argued either way, I suppose.

 

[Blood Diamonds]

Just 2 examples of what is wrong with you folks on the far left. Always willing to go the extreme. No compromise, no rule of law, or rather selective application of the rule of law. The far left and far right are mirror images of each other. Shameful really. So sad!

The part I bolded is so rich, I love it when we have armchair lawyers in here. Basically self defense. Hahahaha. I'm not saying this dude didn't deserve it, even I know what he said was unacceptable and stupid. No one can condone the rape of women and personally good on her for swinging for the fences but no one is above the law.

After this election, the far left just reminds me of the far right. Off their rockers for sure.

yeah yeah yeah you're a magical middle both sides fairy we get it

 

[Psychoward]

I'm not going to condone this violence, but I understand.

I am.

 

[sir_kevith]

I wouldn't be willing to go-to jail over that guy.

Even if he died I wouldn't feel bad for him though. He's telling kids outside a school they deserve to be raped? That's probably the easiest dangerous situation to avoid putting yourself in ever. What an idiot.

 

[Night Angel]

You're infantilising what damage his sign says by reducing the condoning of violence to be just an opinion. There's free speech and then hate speech which goes against that and advocating for violence that betrays others' human rights. When you cross the line like with this sign, it stops becoming merely an opinion like you're suggesting.

That's your opinion. Our laws disagree. Should you hit me until I agree with you?

 

[OG Shaka Zulu]

After this election, the far left just reminds me of the far right. Off their rockers for sure.

What does this have to do with the "far left" or politics in general for that matter? You threaten rape then you will be chipped. End of story.

 

[Yayate]

That's your opinion. Our laws disagree. Should you hit me until I agree with you?

I dunno, are you saying he should be raped for having this opinion?

 

[Makai]

If someone came up to you and to your face told you that your mother/wife/girlfriend/sister deserved to be raped, you wouldn't feel anything? Would you keep this veneer of "I'm too enlightened to feel any anger or emotion"?

Please don't reach for a weapon if your family is insulted. Get the police involved if you're worried by a serious threat.

 

[Psychoward]

Just 2 examples of what is wrong with you folks on the far left. Always willing to go the extreme. No compromise, no rule of law, or rather selective application of the rule of law. The far left and far right are mirror images of each other. Shameful really. So sad!

The part I bolded is so rich, I love it when we have armchair lawyers in here. Basically self defense. Hahahaha. I'm not saying this dude didn't deserve it, even I know what he said was unacceptable and stupid. No one can condone the rape of women and personally good on her for swinging for the fences but no one is above the law.

After this election, the far left just reminds me of the far right. Off their rockers for sure.

Try compromising with that guy and see where it gets you.

 

[Hierophant]

you know whats great? people who come in here and make it so obvious that they aren't affected by the hate speech at all and then go "They should have acted more rationally theres no excuse for this" from the safety of their armchairs

 

[MUnited83]

Just 2 examples of what is wrong with you folks on the far left. Always willing to go the extreme. No compromise, no rule of law, or rather selective application of the rule of law. The far left and far right are mirror images of each other. Shameful really. So sad!

The part I bolded is so rich, I love it when we have armchair lawyers in here. Basically self defense. Hahahaha. I'm not saying this dude didn't deserve it, even I know what he said was unacceptable and stupid. No one can condone the rape of women and personally good on her for swinging for the fences but no one is above the law.

After this election, the far left just reminds me of the far right. Off their rockers for sure.

In a decent country with actually decent laws the dude would have been arrested long ago for his bullshit.
Don't motherfucking threathen people if you don't want people to defend themselves.
I don't give a shit about what your shitty laws are, is that supposed to be an actual argument? Saudi Arabia was a fuckload of shitty laws too but I guess the laws are ok now because "rule of law lel"

 

[RM8]

Maybe don't tell people they deserve to be raped. Hard to defend the idiot preacher.

 

[Hierophant]

Please don't reach for a weapon if your family is insulted. Get the police involved if you're worried by a serious threat.

Having sympathy for why someone has done something perhaps legally wrong isn't necessarily "dangerous or primitive" it's how change is enacted within society. Ideally this dude should have been arrested long before teens felt the need to confront him themselves.

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