Yeah its just another way of saying average americans arent fans of in depth policy discussion. Lots of pundits said before the debate Hillary should avoid getting in the weeds.
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Presidential Debate #1 |Hofstra University| PRESS X TO SEAN
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Man he doesn't stop lol
http://theslot.jezebel.com/the-one-thing-that-bugged-trump-about-the-debate-was-th-1787130995
http://theslot.jezebel.com/the-one-thing-that-bugged-trump-about-the-debate-was-th-1787130995
WhiteRabbitEXE
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So Fox was just saying it was a clear tie, but because Trump was the "challenger" and because he was able to stand up there for 90 minutes (???) he automatically wins.
Fucking. Fox. LITERALLY propaganda. LITERALLY.
Fucking. Fox. LITERALLY propaganda. LITERALLY.
DontBeThatGuy
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Most people voting for Hillary got better shit to do than to acknowledge an online poll. The Trump brigade on the other hand, make it their fucking life.
Sevenfold
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Wowowowowowow
ElectricBlanketFire
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Thanks
Now what to do with all my many minutes...
I tried to find a gif of someone getting pummeled with multiple items but couldn't find one.
Thank you for being an active American citizen who cares about this country and not a lazy, arrogant piece of shit that many people I know are acting like because they carry the belief that both candidates are the same (without having an ounce of knowledge about anything).
A lot of polls also decided for the next MtnDew flavor to be called "Hitler did nothing wrong", a north pole research ship to be called "boaty mc boatface", for Taylor Swift to play at a school for the deaf and GabeN being runner up to a Victoria's secret contest.
Online polls are utterly worthless.
Chip N Chance
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So who won really?
the Wall has been a red herring for a while now. It hasn't been a major point for his campaign for a few months. People keep making jokes about it because it's stupid but the campaign has moved on to other things.
teruterubozu
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The Mario Party gif is more accurate. Hillary didn't need to do jack shit. Trump buried himself.
ElectricBlanketFire
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...Hillary Clinton.
wtf?
Melkezadek
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Clinton by lightyears.
Trump basically had a melt down. Hillary won this one pretty handedly.
teruterubozu
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Nobody. it's just a debate.
What do you expect them to say? They can't say Hillary won, at least they have some pride and said it was a tie.
Abinash117
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It seems actually pretty bad that they have such low expectations of him. I don't see why that some people think that is mostly a good thing.
There are technical winners in debates. Hillary DEFINITELY won.
King Tubby
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A lot of public, online polls. Every scientific poll or focus group of actual people that's been conducted has shown a clear majority thinking Clinton won the debate.
Sevenfold
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Does this represent Fox or the media's fear of Trump because he dropped that and they sat there and carried on with the nodalong. I'm unaware of any of this so I'm going to Google Miss Universe. Could be fun
teruterubozu
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Well of course, but technically there aren't any winners as well.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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I expected them to say what they did, but that doesn't mean their platant right wing propaganda doesn't bother me. Anything they can to spin things in favor of their candidate.
You think Trump did an acceptable job in the debate compared to Hillary?
That first sentence lol
First good laugh of the day. Thank you!
In regards to who is ready to be President, Hillary Clinton and there's no question about it.
Polls are useful for showing you how well your campaign is doing, whether you need to change tact, etc.
Rigged polls are good for protecting your delicate ego.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Clinton did better. She "won."
Yes there is. If a majority of people agree one candidate performed better, they won.
No he didn't.
He also didn't use the phrase "Make America Great Again" which I'm pretty sure is still his campaign's main slogan.
He repeated it several times in his reponse to the final question, "Will you accept the outcome of the election?"
teruterubozu
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No I'm just saying the winner is decided in Nov. In fact, studies show that general election debates rarely move the needle for people (except for daily polls of course) - there are very few undecideds this time around.
Yes, I know. Just trying to make a larger META DUDE point.
Out of curiosity, why now? All of the above was patently obvious for quite some time now.
ElectricBlanketFire
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We're talking about the debate, not the election. She won the debate. We can play semantics, but that's truly a game without any winners.
Why did you have to bring this up? :/
RPGCrazied
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Clinton seems likeable enough. There is nothing to like about Trump. His jokes aren't funny, the way he speaks is annoying, and I'd rather watch paint dry then have to hear him speak for 5 minutes. Last night was pretty unbearable for me.
teruterubozu
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There's a winner for this debate too? Holy shit.
LucidMomentum
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In case it hasn't been posted, here's a really good transcript of the debate with sources cited and fact checking:
http://www.npr.org/2016/495115346/fact-check-first-presidential-debate
I didn't watch all of the debate because I really can't stand listening to Trump, but reading through the transcripts with all the added fact checking shows a lot.
Also Lester did a piss poor job of actually moderating. How the fuck do you let someone interrupt that much.
Trump's tirade on how his temperament is his best quality was also humorous.
Clinton did fairly well sticking to true statements, but her stance on Prisons and TPP is sure to irk people.
Y'all can stop dickwaving anytime lol.
Glad you woke up, but it's a shame a lot of people won't until it's way past election time. Glad you're starting to see through the tough guy charade though. As for fact checking him, people don't seem to care. I found it funny that my parents, who are staunch republicans, basically called the debate a wash because both parties were lying.
But when you read the transcripts, one side was lying nearly all the time, while the other had a couple of lies that could be interpreted as policy misunderstandings, rather than flat out "I never said that (they did)" lies.
http://www.npr.org/2016/495115346/fact-check-first-presidential-debate
I didn't watch all of the debate because I really can't stand listening to Trump, but reading through the transcripts with all the added fact checking shows a lot.
Also Lester did a piss poor job of actually moderating. How the fuck do you let someone interrupt that much.
Trump's tirade on how his temperament is his best quality was also humorous.
Clinton did fairly well sticking to true statements, but her stance on Prisons and TPP is sure to irk people.
Y'all can stop dickwaving anytime lol.
Glad you woke up, but it's a shame a lot of people won't until it's way past election time. Glad you're starting to see through the tough guy charade though. As for fact checking him, people don't seem to care. I found it funny that my parents, who are staunch republicans, basically called the debate a wash because both parties were lying.
But when you read the transcripts, one side was lying nearly all the time, while the other had a couple of lies that could be interpreted as policy misunderstandings, rather than flat out "I never said that (they did)" lies.
I do feel that this election is different since one candidate is so extreme in his views and actions. He said and admitted to some pretty crazy things last night that are ABSOLUTELY NOT NORMAL for a presidential candidate.
SuperBanana
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Sorry if it's been asked but is there anyway to watch this now? I'm not in America and I was working when it was on.
Merely offering counterpoints (I don't actually visit reddit, strangely enough).
I think it's exceedingly important to understand how people view both sides. There's no way Hillary supporters are going to sway the moderate republican swing voters if they don't understand what's behind their (possible) support of Trump. NeoGAF has a pretty strong YASqueen force, but we're not the only people on the internet... its worth understanding how the other side thinks.
Glad to see this. All of that is trumps schtick. He rambles and changes topic mid sentence all the time. He lies and forgets what he says all the damn time. The only way I can see someone ignoring this is if you are simply amused by it. Because in a way it is kind of funny. It definitely would be amusing to see him interrupting other world leaders and acting like a jack ass in all national appearances. It would be like a kardasian reality show and is appearances would get bigger crowds because you literally have no idea what he's gonna say or lie about
Him being in the White House though. Not that funny
teruterubozu
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Oh I agree. Look, I'm not saying Trump won for god's sake.
Kor of Memory
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ElectricBlanketFire
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No there isn't. I shouldn't have to explain why Clinton won last night. I'm not winning anything other than aggravation.
balladofwindfishes
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Err what? This election has the most undecideds at this point in the race of pretty much every election since they've started polling.
Where did you get the notion there are very few undecideds? No polling shows that at all.
teruterubozu
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I actually heard it on NPR radio this morning. I guess I better check my sources.
Yeah Trump just walked right over him which really pissed me off, but Lester needed to shut him down when Trump just basically told him to shut up so he could keep ranting. He kind of lost control at some point.
DeviantBoi
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Has anyone checked how many times he said "Believe me"?
I picked it up a bunch of times.
I picked it up a bunch of times.
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